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shraby

(21,946 posts)
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:57 AM Oct 2018

I firmly believe the Dems will come out in force in the mid-terms BUT I have a nagging

suspicion that Russia and the republicans have already fixed the outcome.

Russia didn't just "look" at the voter rolls. What would be the object of doing that? The vote totals can and will be changed without a doubt.

The only chance we have of gaining anything is to come out in such numbers they can't rig a close one because there will be no close ones.

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I firmly believe the Dems will come out in force in the mid-terms BUT I have a nagging (Original Post) shraby Oct 2018 OP
How would any country have already fixed the midterms?? P.s.....I am an optimist. Fred Sanders Oct 2018 #1
There is no doubt they are involved, our intelligence has said as much. Your assessment is also still_one Oct 2018 #2
I agree. lancelyons Oct 2018 #3
Please ENOUGH of the Debbie Downerism. Just enough. LBM20 Oct 2018 #6
We "Dems" are not saying America is on the edge of a complete takeover...if at the same time we Fred Sanders Oct 2018 #7
Yes we will take the house and investigate trump and co to no end lancelyons Oct 2018 #11
Your conclusion is not true, so stop that. Fred Sanders Oct 2018 #12
If you don't show up, your vote is zero. We need to show up and outnumber them. dalton99a Oct 2018 #4
Please, let's not have Debbie Downer predictions. Just campaign, vote, and do poll watching. LBM20 Oct 2018 #5
Yes. The pattern is Gloom and Doom and then the Go Vote coverup of the pessimism being spread. Fred Sanders Oct 2018 #9
The Republicans will come out in force too. Their time to stomp on out throats, finish us off. Still In Wisconsin Oct 2018 #8
It really does no good & yet a lot of potential harm to keep posting these gloomy "fix is in" posts hlthe2b Oct 2018 #10
That's exactly what the right does. lancelyons Oct 2018 #13
Did you mean to adddress this to the OP? Sounds like I am getting my butter knife ready?! hlthe2b Oct 2018 #14
That's why we have to vote in overwhelming numbers nt eleny Oct 2018 #15

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. How would any country have already fixed the midterms?? P.s.....I am an optimist.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:00 AM
Oct 2018

Sowing doubt about elections and expressing doubt without evidence means Russia has already won.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
2. There is no doubt they are involved, our intelligence has said as much. Your assessment is also
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:01 AM
Oct 2018

correct, if we come out in force it will make it difficult for them to rig, and I think we stand a good chance at least in the House to overcome there deceit





 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
3. I agree.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:01 AM
Oct 2018

The GOP has set this entire take over in motion years ago.

They are finally on the edge of a complete take over and perhaps will force all liberals to get out of the country or disavow their left leaning ways.

If we dont come out in full force it could be a long time living in a right wing era which we have never had.


We Dems keep thinking NO it isnt that bad... No the right will never do that. That is BS. I see many GOP members that are more united in their hate for the Left than anything else.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
7. We "Dems" are not saying America is on the edge of a complete takeover...if at the same time we
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:04 AM
Oct 2018

say we will very likely takeover the House with merely a modest increase in vote per turnout to reinforce current polling and projections...see the disconnect?

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
11. Yes we will take the house and investigate trump and co to no end
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 11:00 AM
Oct 2018

But that won't change states being stacked in favor of the right. Gerry meandering on a large scale,voter suppression laws,etc giving the right power for years.

Please stop acting like this isn't true.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. Yes. The pattern is Gloom and Doom and then the Go Vote coverup of the pessimism being spread.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:06 AM
Oct 2018

Sound familiar? See...2016.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
8. The Republicans will come out in force too. Their time to stomp on out throats, finish us off.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:05 AM
Oct 2018

Remember, all they have to do is be close and voter suppression/ election tampering will take care of the rest.

Yes, Democrats will come out in greater numbers than usual for a midterm. But the MAGAs are pumped up beyond belief now. From an electoral perspective it will be a wash, which is a win for TRUMP.

hlthe2b

(102,278 posts)
10. It really does no good & yet a lot of potential harm to keep posting these gloomy "fix is in" posts
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:06 AM
Oct 2018

While I believe most DUers are firmly in the camp of vote and vote EARLY, we have newbies coming here all the time.

If all they see is a constant onslaught of posts that bemoan that it is "fruitless" and "hopeless", just what do you think they will likely do--not to mention all the people with whom you come into contact on a daily basis?

You may think us deluded to think we can affect the outcome, but the only way you are 100% correct is if WE DON'T EVEN TRY. And yes, that means large numbers which we must MOTIVATE to come out. SO, please stop the demoralizing threads! PLEASE!

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
13. That's exactly what the right does.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 11:15 AM
Oct 2018

Everyday trump and the gop are berating liberals while conservatives get adorned with interviews about their love for trump.

We have to fight back not concede

To me you sound like you are getting your butter knife ready.

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