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orangecrush

(19,586 posts)
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:13 PM Oct 2018

Kavanaugh WILL be impeached!!!

What is impeachment?
At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, the delegates concluded that even those holding the highest office would not be above the law, birthing the American system of impeachment.

Under the Constitution, the president, the vice president and “all civil Officers of the United States” (including those in the executive branch, plus federal judges) may be removed from office for “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” The procedure for impeaching a president or a federal judge is broadly the same.

There are two parts to the process:

The House is entrusted with the responsibility of voting on impeachment. Its members decide by a majority vote.

Then the Senate holds a trial for the underlying misconduct. A conviction requires two-thirds of the Senate, or 67 votes. If there is a conviction, the Senate removes the individual from office.

How likely is Kavanaugh’s impeachment?
“It’s as likely as the Democrats winning the House,” said Jed Shugerman, a professor at Fordham University School of Law.

“If they take back the House, I would be surprised if they don’t put forth impeachment proceedings in the next Congress,” Shugerman told The Washington Post.

“At the moment,” according to the Cook Political Report, “Democrats are substantial favorites for House control.”



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Kavanaugh WILL be impeached!!! (Original Post) orangecrush Oct 2018 OP
The House may very well impeach him, john657 Oct 2018 #1
And is it advantageous to Dems to fight a no win battle that leaves them procon Oct 2018 #9
1000% agree. john657 Oct 2018 #10
Very optimistic. orangecrush Oct 2018 #19
Nope, very realistic. n/t john657 Oct 2018 #20
More orangecrush Oct 2018 #23
I hope so, john657 Oct 2018 #25
Never say never MFM008 Oct 2018 #34
Impeachment without conviction is useless. Squinch Oct 2018 #2
Ayup. Waste. Just hold hearings and real investigations and let indictments take over Roland99 Oct 2018 #3
This. Squinch Oct 2018 #14
Indictments? madville Oct 2018 #39
+1000. N/T john657 Oct 2018 #4
Impeachment with no possibility of conviction elocs Oct 2018 #17
So....you're saying it's the same as having sex with trump? Nevilledog Oct 2018 #21
The key word in my post is "like" and that tips you off it's an analogy. elocs Oct 2018 #33
um... nt ecstatic Oct 2018 #22
I don't see it. shanny Oct 2018 #5
He'll get impeached calguy Oct 2018 #6
Unfortunately, john657 Oct 2018 #7
regardless of the outcome, the process is important for shining a light on the squatters holding diva77 Oct 2018 #8
Investigate first. A real investigation. rockfordfile Oct 2018 #11
Even if he's disbarred, he can still serve on the SC. john657 Oct 2018 #12
One would hope that, after epic and complete embarrassment, he would resign ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #32
Impeachment without conviction is worse than useless. Paka Oct 2018 #13
Yep. john657 Oct 2018 #15
Amen! Paka Oct 2018 #41
He must have enough skeletons in his closet dflprincess Oct 2018 #16
Nothing useful about that. Codeine Oct 2018 #18
NOT AT ALL unless something VERY VERY VERY serious surfaces. Let it go. WIN ELECTIONS! LBM20 Oct 2018 #24
Nope. We are stuck with him until he dies or resigns Freethinker65 Oct 2018 #26
Why fight a battle we can't win njhoneybadger Oct 2018 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2018 #28
+1 orangecrush Oct 2018 #30
Waste of time, Raine Oct 2018 #29
Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #31
If the intention is to fire up the Republican base, elocs Oct 2018 #35
It will require continuous attack on Kavanaugh. Collecting damaging evidence. LiberalFighter Oct 2018 #36
I worked with a guy who always said Turbineguy Oct 2018 #37
Nope customerserviceguy Oct 2018 #38
It'll be like the 50+ times the Republicans "Repealed Obamacare" in the House. briv1016 Oct 2018 #40
If you can't convict in the Senate don't impeach...waste of time and money and unpopular Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #42
 

john657

(1,058 posts)
1. The House may very well impeach him,
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:15 PM
Oct 2018

but the Senate will never convict and remove him, the numbers are just not there and won't be for a long time.

procon

(15,805 posts)
9. And is it advantageous to Dems to fight a no win battle that leaves them
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:28 PM
Oct 2018

wide open to attack?

Better that they should subpoena every last Republican in congress down to the file clerks and have them give sworn testimony in hearings chaired by the new Democratic majority is open session so the public can see what they've been up to in their name. The media headlines ill do a better job of skewering Republicans than an abreviated impeachment process.

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
34. Never say never
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 10:04 PM
Oct 2018

Look at Alabama, just never discount anything happening.
When people are enraged things happen.
I remember in 1992 we lost almost all the republicans in our states delegation.
I think there was 1 left.
ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.

madville

(7,412 posts)
39. Indictments?
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:24 AM
Oct 2018

That would be up to the DOJ. The House committees really have very little power, even if someone ignores a House subpoena and is held in contempt of Congress they can only refer it to the DOJ for prosecution and they can just ignore it.

elocs

(22,590 posts)
17. Impeachment with no possibility of conviction
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:46 PM
Oct 2018

is like having sex with no possibility of orgasm.

elocs

(22,590 posts)
33. The key word in my post is "like" and that tips you off it's an analogy.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 10:03 PM
Oct 2018

But you probably knew that already in an attempt to be clever because Trump is never mentioned in my post since the subject is "Kavanaugh" WILL be impeached.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
5. I don't see it.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:22 PM
Oct 2018

"Prosecuted" is possible; "sued" much more likely.
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I'd love to see him deposed by an opposing, practicing attorney (with all due respect to our Senators).

calguy

(5,319 posts)
6. He'll get impeached
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:22 PM
Oct 2018

when I win the lottery. Sorry to say, but the reality is he'll be on the court long after I've left this earth.

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
7. Unfortunately,
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:26 PM
Oct 2018

me too, now my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren have to deal with this shit.

diva77

(7,647 posts)
8. regardless of the outcome, the process is important for shining a light on the squatters holding
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:28 PM
Oct 2018

office or appointments who were installed due to 0-100 degrees of separation from election fraud

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
12. Even if he's disbarred, he can still serve on the SC.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:34 PM
Oct 2018

There's nothing in the Constitution that says you have to be a lawyer to serve on the SC.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
32. One would hope that, after epic and complete embarrassment, he would resign
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:53 PM
Oct 2018

Or he could just become more vile and vindictive. At this point, however, I'm all for him being disbarred and humiliated in front of the nation.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
13. Impeachment without conviction is worse than useless.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:34 PM
Oct 2018

It energizes the opposition and makes us look like idiots.

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
15. Yep.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:36 PM
Oct 2018

Just ask the pubs how well it went for them when they tried to impeach, try, convict and remove President Clinton.

dflprincess

(28,080 posts)
16. He must have enough skeletons in his closet
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:41 PM
Oct 2018

That perhaps be quietly persuaded to resign. I'm guessing this could be done with any number of Spanky's appointees. And while I'd rather they be publicly shamed I could live with quiet resignations

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
18. Nothing useful about that.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:49 PM
Oct 2018

A total waste of time and self-destructive to boot. We gain nothing from an impeachment without conviction and end it looking weak and ineffective. That’s energy best spent elsewhere.

Freethinker65

(10,028 posts)
26. Nope. We are stuck with him until he dies or resigns
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:18 PM
Oct 2018

But he will continue to be ridiculed and I hope lying under oath becomes referred to something like "pulling a Kavanaugh". I have already used it with my young adult son when he was being less than truthful. He understood immediately!

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elocs

(22,590 posts)
35. If the intention is to fire up the Republican base,
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 10:09 PM
Oct 2018

then by all means, impeach everybody in sight and spend a lot of time doing it.
Yeah, that'll show them, especially when there is ZERO chance of conviction in the Senate.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
38. Nope
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:05 AM
Oct 2018

A month from now, the name Kavanaugh will disappear from the news. I'm dead certain that we will have at least two things that Trump will move to the center of focus by then. And then, there are the midterms. Let us hope that things turn out well.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
40. It'll be like the 50+ times the Republicans "Repealed Obamacare" in the House.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 04:47 AM
Oct 2018

Without 67 votes in the Senate it means nothing. Same goes for Donald.

Demsrule86

(68,618 posts)
42. If you can't convict in the Senate don't impeach...waste of time and money and unpopular
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 07:16 AM
Oct 2018

with many Americans.

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