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gabeana

(3,166 posts)
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 06:35 PM Oct 2018

I don't get this despair, what has changed?

Once 2016 was lost/stolen the court was gone, we knew it was going to be 5-4, granted now a stronger 5-4 with a much younger conservative judge than Kennedy,
Kavanaugh was sailing easily to confirmation until Ford heroically stood in the way, and ended up becoming a symbol for victims of abuse at the hands of drunk teens, men who have for generation in group behavior have dismissed women, "the Sleeping Giant" was already awake but is now roaring.

Enthusiasm is going to be high on both sides but remember there is more of us than there is of them even in their red enclaves there is pockets of blue that are going to come out, and oust a lot of Red incumbents

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I don't get this despair, what has changed? (Original Post) gabeana Oct 2018 OP
Activism feels good but losing sucks RandySF Oct 2018 #1
Yeah and even with it stacked made gabeana Oct 2018 #2
That's a very good point! renate Oct 2018 #3
A conservative on the Supreme Court is what concerns me, it's the consequence of losing an election Snake Plissken Oct 2018 #4
However, we got the most vulnerable conservative ever. empedocles Oct 2018 #10
I just don't bdamomma Oct 2018 #5
👏🏾 BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2018 #7
Because of the way he got In, that's why we despair donkeypoofed Oct 2018 #6
What changed... JarOCats Oct 2018 #8
Why would anyone have believed Codeine Oct 2018 #12
Then why even bother to hold hearings? JarOCats Oct 2018 #14
There is a significant difference between installing a conservative justice - Ms. Toad Oct 2018 #9
Said this to a friend... we knew all this was going to happen on election night budkin Oct 2018 #11
Conservative is one thing. Attempted rapist mzmolly Oct 2018 #13

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
2. Yeah and even with it stacked made
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 06:41 PM
Oct 2018

the Fuckers work for it, didn't make it easy for them, 50 votes, the lowest since senate went to 100

renate

(13,776 posts)
3. That's a very good point!
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 06:53 PM
Oct 2018

The only way they won was by delivering a giant Fuck You to women (half the voting population) and survivors of sexual assault (which makes them the worst people). It wasn’t a cakewalk for them.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
4. A conservative on the Supreme Court is what concerns me, it's the consequence of losing an election
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 06:58 PM
Oct 2018

Having a lowlife, lying, sexual assaulting, politically biased, self entitled, elitist piece of shit on the Supreme Court is what I have a problem with. He is not fit to be sitting on the Supreme Court. trump did this just to troll liberals and piss people off because he's a juvenile douchebag.

bdamomma

(63,913 posts)
5. I just don't
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 06:58 PM
Oct 2018

need to listen to those pricks lies anymore, and how the democrats are to blame. Such assholes starting with Lindsey Graham, and how they didn't have the courage to speak to Dr Ford. And never in my life I heard Kava-not yelling and spewing lies about how it was a left wing conspiracy. Sickening and this man is now sitting on the SC?

This regime is nothing but a bunch of criminals. Everyone should take a knee when they play the anthem.

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
6. Because of the way he got In, that's why we despair
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:02 PM
Oct 2018

Our assaults don't matter. That's very depressing. So now you can understand.

JarOCats

(119 posts)
8. What changed...
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:09 PM
Oct 2018

...is that, until the final vote, there was always a flicker of hope, no matter how tiny, that he would not be confirmed. If it was always a given, then there was no reason for Dr. Ford to upend her life, nor even any reason for debate.

What changed is that that tiny flicker of hope has been doused.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
12. Why would anyone have believed
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:58 PM
Oct 2018

there was any chance whatsoever that he wouldn’t be confirmed? I never understood that weird kind of senseless, blind, uniformed naivety. The Republicans were never going to fail to confirm Trump’s nominee. Politics 101.

JarOCats

(119 posts)
14. Then why even bother to hold hearings?
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 02:53 AM
Oct 2018

Why bother with with an FBI investigation (sham that it was)?

Why bother to protest? Why bother to vote?

Because there is always a chance to prevent the worst.

That's not senseless, blind, uninformed, or naive; to believe everything is predestined and inevitable is.

Ms. Toad

(34,082 posts)
9. There is a significant difference between installing a conservative justice -
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:10 PM
Oct 2018

elections have consequences, after all.

And all but completely ignoring credible and corroborated claims of sexual abuse, blatant lies under oath, his complete inability to exercise a suitable judicial and impartial temperament in order to meet some arbitrary confirmation deadline.

One is a normal consquence of the election. The other is destroying the last facade of impartiality on the court or in the process by which nominations are confirmed. And almost intentionally triggering mild to severe PTSD in nearly every woman I know.

budkin

(6,711 posts)
11. Said this to a friend... we knew all this was going to happen on election night
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:30 PM
Oct 2018

We've just had to digest it bite by bite.

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