Goodbye, DU! You've won!

[Nedsdag]

Last night I was up all night after being lambasted for a post defending Susan Sarandon's right to say whatever she wanted.

I was called a liar and an enabler. I disagreed with what she said, but it was not my place to attack her for it. I was tired of seeing "See, Susan Sarandon what you have done?" thread. As for my criticism of Mrs. Clinton, I stand by what I have said. She is a brilliant policy thinker, but as a politician, she has shown to be lacking in the skills that made her husband and Obama more successful. Yes, she won by 3 million votes and yes, there were voting improprieties, but there was no reason for her and the Democrats to let Trump "win".

Well, DU, you have won. I am leaving.

And for those saying to me "good riddance!" and "goodbye", fine. This is defeating the purpose.

If the moderators do not like what I posted, feel free to ban me. I've already removed DU from my bookmark. There are other places for me to express my opinion. I can understand why others left two years ago to start their own website.

Do not get me wrong, I still believe in what DU stands for, but what I will not stand for is personal attacks. For this reason alone, after 17 years on the site, it's time for me to go.

I will vote for the straight Democratic ticket in November, but this is where this ends for me regarding posting here.

Goodbye, Democratic Underground.

[grossproffit]

1. I'm sorry you feel this way. I hope you'll change your mind.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

153. #MeToo

[NurseJackie]

275. In this context, it diminishes the real meaning of "#MeToo"...

In this context, it diminishes the real meaning of "#MeToo".

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

292. Blame auto-fill.

[NurseJackie]

293. How about putting the blame where it really belongs?

Last edited Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:25 PM - Edit history (1)

292. Blame auto-fill.

How about putting the blame where it really belongs, instead? It's not that difficult for someone to edit their own posts. (Although it's doubtless that many find it infinitely more satisfying to make excuses rather than to make corrections.)

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

295. LOL, you should follow your own advice FIRST before you criticize others...

You're too funny!! You criticize ME, for making an auto-fill mistake, by saying and I quote:

"It's not that difficult for someone to edit their edit own posts."

Well, apparently it is difficult by YOUR own post... too funny!!

Glad to see I'm not the only one who's error prone in failing to catch and correct their own errors.

No doubt, you can laugh at yourself... I do all the time... come on, try it!!

[betsuni]

276. #MeToo what?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

291. Me too me.

[BeyondGeography]

2. Nedsdag

You have always been one of my favorite posters. I hope you reconsider, perhaps after a breather. If not, I have enjoyed your POV over the years and will miss you.

All the best either way.

[brucefan]

3. You can probably be excused

for your criticism of Hillary,but Sarandon,not so much.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

253. Taking responsibility?

[Honeycombe8]

270. She may not understand what Sarandon was doing.

She may think that Sarandon was just expressing an innocent, and maybe naive, opinion. But that's not what she was doing at all. She was pushing a movement she identifies with, like Nader was. She was fine with the country going with Trump, for people to lose health care, Social Security, food programs for children, for the whole world's environment and climate to suffer...as long as her movement benefited from it ultimately. When a listener realizes that, it changes the meaning of what she was doing. But a listener would have to know about her movement and realize what the movement is about.

I agree with the OP's criticism of Hillary, though. No politician is perfect. She has enough skills and is likable enough, though. People who can't accept any criticism of their candidate is entering a territory that is scary.

I remember when at one debate Obama turned in a terrible performance. It really was, which was the only time he wasn't great in a debate. There was a skit on SNL about it. I posted the video of that skit, and one poster got over the top upset about it. He just couldn't accept that anyone would even think, much less write, that Obama was imperfect at a debate. But the skit was really funny, if you had seen the debate. Everyone was talking about his performance at the debate, so why ignore reality? Obama himself even joked about it later. He had a great sense of humor. I miss that.

[ornotna]

4. I was up all night worrying about getting bills paid

Anonymous internet flack is the least of my worries.

[HipChick]

10. I can relate...giving power to anonymous folk

is not a priority...everything is perspective...

Bills getting paid, putting food on the table..

[stopbush]

5. Oh dear. How will DU survive?

Of course, the poster is gone so they won’t be reading this.

[trueblue2007]

6. Bye poster.

[BlueCaliDem]

205. Buh-bye, Poster! If DU and that poster were around during the Civil War, we'd still have slavery.

"Don't blame the high profile attackers of a strong and principled candidate!"

"The high profile accuser who helped bring down a strong and principled candidate and helped give rise to a dictator shouldn't be blamed! How dare you!!!"

Paramount in this all...Susan Sarandon DID NOT help Democrats or democratic ideals. She's helped plunge us backward.

Simply put, there's a right side and a wrong side in this fiasco we're seeing.

Sarandon, and her ilk, WERE ALL WRONG.

[Downtown Hound]

7. No one "let Trump win"

That's a bunch of crap. And no one is saying that Susan Sarandon doesn't have the right to say what she wants. But freedom of speech carries both consequences and responsibility, and if she's going to peddle harmful and destructive ideas, then we are going to call her out for it.
And we are damn sure we are never going to let her forget it or the horrible consequences of it.

If you can't handle that, then well, buh bye! But it's not defeating the purpose. It's recognizing the reality of what we're facing.

[lsewpershad]

203. +1

[wellst0nev0ter]

8. If she has a right to say what she wants

We have the right to say she's full of shit.

Free speech only means she won't be jailed or fined for what she does. It does not mean consequence-free speech.

Sorry to see you go.

[George II]

87. Yes, the right to speak goes both ways.

[NurseJackie]

208. I guess that poster has had enough and thinks DU is dark sided.

[NastyRiffraff]

131. Thank you

I wish more people would get that simple truth. Free speech means the government can't throw you in jail for saying stupid shit.

It doesn't mean everyone must agree with you or shut up, or that your book must be published, or that your show can't be cancelled.

[wellst0nev0ter]

132. It's gotten even worse with the rise of social media

Now everybody thinks they deserve a privately-owned bullhorn, no matter how stupidly dangerous their rhetoric is.

[dawg day]

228. And really, in the age of the Internet, anyone can HAVE a bullhorn.

Any of us tomorrow in 20 minutes could set up a blog or political forum. We could say anything we want.

No one has to be on any forum they don't like... but to act like there's some denial of free speech really ignores the reality. You don't have to be HERE to say what you want. (You can say it here, of course, but assume those who disagree will say so.)

Even 20 years ago, we might be able to say that we don't have anyway to express our opinions, because we didn't own a radio station or newspaper.

But anyone can start a radio station or podcast. Anyone can start a news site.
Getting people to listen is still a problem, but being allowed and able to speak is not.

[BlueJac]

9. Things can get testy here for sure...

I totally see what you are referring to. Wish you well.

[ismnotwasm]

11. You'll probably like JPR, give it a try.

As you say, there are many other places to post. Goodbye.

[Squinch]

69. Apparently he's already been there:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11245745

And another poster in this thread pointed out that the name is "Gadsen" spelled backward.

Sooo... yeah. JPR might work.

[lapucelle]

126. Apparently some people must make Official Announcements.

Odd when there's a "Gang! I finally Did It!" OP on JPR and a "Goodbye Cruel World" message here on DU, both in the same day and each posted by people whose names are coincidental palindromes of the other's.

[Squinch]

127. What a bunch of morons. Really. They should get a hobby. Knitting, maybe.

[lapucelle]

128. ...

[njhoneybadger]

189. This is her job and hobby

[sheshe2]

174. Bwahahaha

Going back to JPR when Manny and Mary (owners) are dumping the place.

To funny.

[Squinch]

12. Poor you. Who were you again?

[demmiblue]

13. I don't know why so many let Sarandon live rent-free in their heads.

She isn't/wasn't really that important or influential.

Thank you for committing to vote for Dems. Goodbye.

[TheFarseer]

14. I hardly ever post

If you post anything remotely critical of Democrats no matter constructive or not (not including punching bags like Bernie or AOC. You can say whatever you want about them) then you will be attacked by seemingly thousands of posters. Who needs it?

[JonLP24]

16. I agree

[Trust Buster]

79. Agree

[WhiteTara]

110. Hey, Obama backed AOC. Doesn't that make you happy?

Or is he too corporate?

[TheFarseer]

144. Yeah, I am happy about that.

i hope people will follow his lead and be positive about one of our young Democrats.

[WhiteTara]

145. We're delighted to have young Democrats

we just don't need to be erased for you to exist. We need each other.

[TheFarseer]

211. I agree with that.

[WhiteTara]

213. See? We're already best friends

and we haven't even met.

[TheFarseer]

225. Awwww

We’re more alike than we are different

[still_one]

164. Defending and supporting Bernie and AOC is NOT the same thing as defending Susan Sarandon, who

every chance she had encouraged others not to vote for the Democratic nominee

In fact using Bernie and AOC in the same breath as Sarandon is an insult to Bernie and AOC

Sarandon is a one-trick pony. She did the same thing in 2000

Susan Sarandon is NOT a friend or ally

She is an extremely wealthy person who will never have to worry about where her next meal is coming from, a roof over her head, or healthcare

She is equivalent to those in Germany in the thirties, who enabled the Nazis to come into power

If we never hear from her again it will be too soon, but if she makes her ugly appearance with her lies and bullshit, she deserves every bit of scorn and ridicule

[TheFarseer]

224. I have to admit

I’m not really familiar with Susan Sarandon’s politics other than I knew she supported Bernie. I wouldn’t really be able to speak about her in an informed way. I just hope no one is overly influenced by celebrities that have a right to an opinion but are no more informed than the next guy.

[mountain grammy]

235. Agree

[Cirque du So-What]

15. When choosing a hill on which to die

defending Susan Sarandon is a particularly unmeritorious wayto go.

[grantcart]

20. I know, right? Boy the OP really taught us a thing or nothing.

[peggysue2]

21. LOL. x1000

Of all people to have a kerfuffle and moment of righteous indignation over--Susan Sarandon. Who never met a Democrat she couldn't criticize, nitpick and/or slap around while claiming the moral high ground.

Because the Trumpster has brought so much . . . winning!

[anarch]

64. wait, was this person Susan Sarandon?

[Gothmog]

134. You win this thread

[still_one]

80. LOL. Greatest post of the day!!!!!!!!!

[emulatorloo]

92. I thought the same thing, it is very odd. Oh well, no accounting for tastes

[George II]

118. Bazinga!

[Scurrilous]

123. ...

[uponit7771]

245. +1

[Amishman]

17. I understand your decision and wish you well

I'm not nearly as established here and more of a lurker, so that might not mean much.

We are our own worst enemy sometimes.

[Paladin]

19. Sounds like a win-win decision, to me.

Thanks for leaving. Hope you find a place that suits you better.

[SidDithers]

22. DU needs a GBCW forum...nt

Sid

[ismnotwasm]

25. I've often thought that

So we could keep track.

[cwydro]

36. Seriously, it would be fun to read.

These posts amaze me.

[NYC Liberal]

40. Bring back the Meta forum.

[George II]

120. Insasmuch as the poster mentioned Sarandon, I suppose this happened earlier today:

[radical noodle]

210. She helped take the entire world over the cliff

this time.

[Gothmog]

121. Good bye cruel world posts are amusing

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[SixString]

140. So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish.

[wiley]

179. 7632 views so far.

Moderators should use good-bye as a trigger word to push the post in a dark corner so our time is not wasted. Who the fcuk cares what Susan Sarandon has to say, anyway? Not sure what other site would actually allow such a post.

[njhoneybadger]

287. We need the comedy

[Mosby]

23. Thanks for being part of DU

Take care.

[unblock]

24. Never blame the person who got cheated against for "letting" the cheater win.

Hillary was winning in nearly every poll and nearly every forecasting model, and nearly every predictive market for nearly every day of the entire campaign.

She lost only because of the combination of some of the biggest electoral crimes in our political history, including international espionage and campaign financing violations, and also including the biggest last-minute dirty trick in our political history as well. Even still, she overcame massive voter suppression efforts to still have a big majority, and lost only due to the targetted nature of the cheating and manipulation.

To blame Hillary would be results-mongering in the extreme if it weren't such an already debunked position. As it is, it's a completely disingenuous claim. Considering everything she was up against, including a media that gave her opponent about 80% of airtime and covered her largely only to talk about fabricated scandals, she did amazingly well.

[StevieM]

29. Our own FBI and State Department Inspector General's offices did a lot more damage with their

lies than Valdimir Putin did.

[unblock]

38. Dirtiest dirty trick ever.

But they went hand in glove. Russian espionage and meddling helped prime people, particularly in key states and key demographics, to be very sensitive to news about "her emails".

Objectively, comey's leak about emails on wiener's laptop shouldn't have had much impact, but Russian psyops on Facebook and such helped to make sure it was seen as a big deal.

[StevieM]

45. Excellent point. The Russian hacking and Putin's smearing of HRC made her far more vulnerable to

the effects of the Comey intervention.

[lunamagica]

60. + a million!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

186. thanks

I should've known somebody had already debunked that 'blame Hillary' segment of the OP before I posted. Just saw red and had to respond before reading the thread.

[Hekate]

215. This. Thanks.

[Doodley]

26. Take a break. Brush yourself down and come back into the battlefield another day. Happens

to many of us. I welcome you back when you.are ready.

[Turbineguy]

27. It's a discussion board

as such it sometimes summarizes our personal as well as collective mood.

[Snake Plissken]

28. See you in a few days

[Iggo]

97. .

[hlthe2b]

30. You should take a break... while Sarandon is an annoyance on par with Kanye for their collective

naivete' and ignorance (to me), they are just that--ignorant celebs who seem to think they have oversized and overly "worthy" opinions. Neither is true if we ignore them.

That said, DU sometimes goes through hyper-vigilant cycles when even mild criticism of Democratic icons is received badly. That you likely got a couple of jury hides during one of those cycles may be annoying, even hurtful, but it happens to the best of us.

Take my advice and just go on a little break. Then come back and reassess. You might find a very different climate when you do.

[Demsrule86]

273. With Trump in office and all branches of government in the hands of the GOP ...a rapist on the

Supreme Court and babies in concentration camp...it is not hyper-vigilence that makes us receive criticism of the only party that could have prevented this debacle in 16 and who now must put a stop to it even with gerrymandering and all the shit the Republicans have spewed. Now is not the time for criticism of the party...Support Democrats and vote Democratic as if you life depends on it because it does. This poster has new friends more suited to his political viewpoint on the other site...saw the post.

[hlthe2b]

278. what post?

[Demsrule86]

279. It is on JPR...where he talks about finally leaving this site...calls it the usual JPR name...he has

been posting there. updated...an early post about Hillary Clinton BEFORE the 2016 election.

https://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/schadenfreude-who-else-is-enjoying-it/#post-195390

[hlthe2b]

283. Uggh...

So what is 'SV'?

[Demsrule86]

289. I think it might be a harry potter thing...not sure.

[betsuni]

280. Here:

http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/gang-i-finally-did-it

[hlthe2b]

284. I thought that site had pretty much folded...

sheesh... What is "SV"?

[betsuni]

285. Their name for DU, Site Voldemort. Silly!

[hlthe2b]

286. oh, brother....

Not even clever...

[Demsrule86]

290. Oh so that is what SV stands for thanks.

[Newland56]

31. Please

Nedsdag,
If it’s your intention to leave I understand that. Tensions are high and there are lots of emotional responses to the crisis we currently find ourselves in.
I request that you don’t allow the stress from this message board deter you from your commitment to supporting democratic candidates in the coming election. Please hold firm in your democratic ideals and help to vote the cancer in our country out of office.
To DU as a whole, I hope we can find a way to not sew any divisiveness into our common goal. This is not the time to incite any divisiveness that could lead to disillusionment of a single democrat vote.
We need every single one of them.

[red dog 1]

48. Welcome to DU!

[Caliman73]

157. Haven't you heard...? We are Democrats. Being divided is part of our nature.

Like Will Rogers said, "I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat. We are a large tent and have differing priorities. We will always have fights, but as long as we remember that Democrats actually believe the government can be a force for good and remember the Republicans only exist to protect the wealthiest people, then we will move forward.

[lancelyons]

32. If you have a friend that always gets to drunk and starts fights every time you go out...

you eventually will stop bringing that friend.

[LexVegas]

33. ....

[Hortensis]

34. AMENDED: Nedsdag, finally learned you're a JPR hostile -- on DU!

Last edited Mon Oct 8, 2018, 12:19 PM - Edit history (1)

I thought all those were asked to leave long ago. In fact, I know they were. Don't let the door hit you...

[democratisphere]

35. Stand your ground. Take it on the chin. Then go on!

Why leave. Fight for what you believe in! And keep on fighting!

[Doodley]

47. Well said. We have to accept that sometimes we will hold a minority view on some issues,

And it stinks to have a post removed, because we must.have boundaries for a forum to work, but.what is important is the core values we share. No forum is perfect, but there is no better forum than DU. So I agree the OP needs to come back and carry on fighting for what is important.

[RobinA]

151. I Suspect

it’s not about being a miniority opinion, it’s about the attacking and the name calling. Having an unapproved view on something here leads to attacks. Where’s the discussion?

[StevieM]

37. I don't agree with you about HRC. She showed some pretty impressive political skills over the years.

Her comeback in New Hampshire in 2008 is the most impressive thing I have ever seen in politics.

The bogus FBI investigation destroyed her reputation and her campaign. They were always going to find a way to do that, to Hillary or to someone else, in 2016 or in 2020.

Anyway, I hope you don't leave. I bet you will miss it if you do. Why not just take a break for a fe days and then rejoin us? And if you don't enjoy it than you can leave at a later date. But I think we are usually better off when we lift each other up, as we often do here.

If you do leave than I hope you don't rule out coming back in the future.

[red dog 1]

39. "There are other places for me to express my opinion"?

What "other places"?

If you think "Discussionist" is a good place for you to express your opinion, I think you may be disappointed.

Talk about being "lambasted" and "personal attacks,"
the last time I posted there, (in the "Progressive" forum I think)
I was "lambasted" and personally attacked by DOZENS of Trump-lovers there.
It's now mostly a GOP website, unlike when it was started two years ago.

I understand how you feel, but I'm sorry to see you go.

Best wishes!

[JonLP24]

44. I don't know of any other places

I visit trumad's site but not many people go over there. A lot of places are taken over by white supremacists like discussionist.

[red dog 1]

51. Thanks for that

I found trumad's site and decided to join it - I'm waiting to hear back from them.

It looks like a good discussion site for progressive Democrats.

[JonLP24]

53. This one?

http://rebeldems.com/forum

I hope to see you soon.

[red dog 1]

56. That's the one!

[boston bean]

41. I can't recall you posting before. But susan sarandon deserves no defending.

[IADEMO2004]

42. In the age of tRump we are more savage. Don't leave you've been here since '01.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

43. Goodbye, Gadsden-spelled-backward, you were right: ...

Sarandon has the right to say any self-righteous smug thing she wants to.

And I have the right to say she's just another rich asshole, unworthy of the airtime she uses.

[jpak]

172. Troll busted!

[obamanut2012]

199. hahaha good catch

[elocs]

218. The choir expects you to sing along with them and when you don't like their song they can be testy.

Some even congratulate themselves for being clever in their group-think.
So you either sing with the choir or leave.

I have to admit, I've never particularly liked goodbye threads. I think it's better just to leave and afterwards to have somebody ask, "where did so-and-so go?" rather than post an "I'm leaving" thread and give some the opportunity to say "well don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out".

[Gothmog]

223. Good catch

[tandem5]

46. Sounds more like Castle of Aughhhh than thanks-for-all-the-fish

[Vinnie From Indy]

49. Good Bye My Friend!

[Ilsa]

50. The Susan sarandon posts

feel like we are fighting the 2016 primary again.

Ss can say what she wants. I don't understand why anyone on DU would care what her flawed thinking is about anything after her total screwup in the general election. She's pretty well detested on DU, and I have no reason to defend her point of view.

You have to have tough skin on DU, but also understand that SS is pretty much reviled here as much as Karl Rove. I wish you well if you choose to leave, but hope you'll stay.

[Different Drummer]

52. Sorry you feel that way, but..

if you've been here for 17 years, you should know this is not the best place to defend Sarandon. I've been here for only a few years and I know that. I hope you have success in finding a more Sarandon-friendly place to post your views.

[red dog 1]

59. I'll bet they love her over at Discussionist

[Martin Eden]

54. "I will not stand for is personal attacks"

You are very likely to encounter that wherever you go on the internet, unless the forum is **heavily** moderated.

The plain sad fact of the matter is that a few trolls or angry inconsiderate people can have a much greater impact than the vast majority here at DU who are thoughtful and kind.

17 years is a long time to be part of a community, then abandon it. For me, it's only been a little over 16 years.

Ideally our disagreements would be hashed out in the realm of fact and ideas, not personal invective -- but passions are high and those on the other side are viewed as enemies.

Trump is our enemy. McConnell is our enemy. Kavanaugh is our enemy.

Fellow DUers (unless a troll or a bot or a rightwing infiltrator) are not the enemy.

This thread is a reminder that we should keep that in mind.

[IluvPitties]

55. Don't take an online forum too seriously.

[ProudLib72]

155. You seriously need a serious infusion of

seriousness!

[IluvPitties]

162. You are killing me!

[peacebuzzard]

57. I took a leave for 8 years

I slept very well during President Obama’s era.
I often wonder what happened to many names I was familiar with.
In any case, Nedsdag might come back one day
At least we can feel a sense of camaraderie here. (Most of the time)

[Gothmog]

58. I will never forgive Sarandon for helping to elect trump

Link to tweet

[deurbano]

86. Yes. And she is is not quadriplegic, like my daughter, who has also survived cancer...

and now has to worry about lifetime Medicaid caps and other despicable proposals. Revolution, indeed.

[Cha]

94. "The horrors & trauma won't impact her life: Internment camps for children,

Internment camps for children, immigrant families ripped apart, sexual assault survivors vilified & threatened for speaking up.
Is it worth it, Susan?"

Charles Blow knows the truth..

Thanks again, Goth

[Stallion]

61. I'm SHOCKED to find that Nedsdag was JPR Poster

"15. I was just reprimanded for defending Susan Sarandon at SV
I was called a liar and had three of my posts banned.
I’m back here for good. It’s nice to be around people who are sympathetic."

[Squinch]

65. LOL! Good catch.

[yardwork]

72. What a surprise. Unfortunately, they'll be back.

[Cha]

74. Yeah, I'm so shocked nedsdag is a JPR member..

"3 posts"? Well, that's not true is it?

[yardwork]

113. We might not know all the socks....

[George II]

89. Three posts? he/she should check it's profile.

[yardwork]

114. Maybe they have more than one... cough cough.

[Downtown Hound]

107. LOL!

So shocked. And like many over at that pathetic site, all he/she can do is whine and play victim.

[Jim Lane]

168. Ironic that you write "all he/she can do is whine and play victim."

That describes a lot of the posts here that, as the OP rightly notes, have downgraded the quality of the discussion on DU. The whining about Susan Sarandon is a notable example.

I personally disagreed with Sarandon's choice in 2016, but some posters' obsession with her is just silly. DU doesn't really need multiple threads every week denouncing Susan Sarandon.

Yes, I know, I can skip such threads -- and I usually do. Aside from the dedicated anti-Sarandon threads, though, her name gets dragged into other threads. It's just tiresome.

This is part of a broader problem, namely the hardening of a "DU Orthodoxy" set of opinions, much narrower than even the constraints of the ToS. I'm not at the GBCW stage but I do find myself spending less time here than I used to, because of the decline in the caliber of the discussion.

[betsuni]

171. "DU orthodoxy": You mean supporting Democrats and voting for them rather than third parties?

[betsuni]

175. You're welcome, Jim!

I just want to make people happy!

[yardwork]

191. Hi there, Jim. I hear that JPR could use a lawyer.

[Downtown Hound]

196. If you're tired of them then don't read them

I'm not going to stop bashing her. So if it offends you. Too bad.

[R B Garr]

197. LOL, the only "decline" is the refusal to accept false narratives

and the refusal to be force-fed false universes. Reality only. Reality about how the system really works, and it’s about time. Yours is the ultimate straw man, as current news and discoveries show clearly who were supported to tear Hillary down and there is no forgetting the lessons of 2016 where this constant smearing of my party and our candidate was done to turn voters against her and Democrats.

Sarandon gets the treatment she deserves. She doesn’t get to swoon over some dreamy “Revolution” without being forced back to the reality that her lies about Hillary along with the other blatant lies about Hillary turned voters away from her. Time for reckoning, No more coddling lies and pretending they are true statements that we need to nurture so not to hurt feelings. Sarandon has hurt MILLIONS and she needs to see what her words got her.

[Cha]

222. No, the OP doesn't "rightly note" anything.. she's misrepresenting

herself going out the door.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1811740

I'd say the post at the link qualifies in your " the decline in the caliber of the discussion" category.

Susan RatFucking Sarandon deserves to be called out for her LIES

Link to tweet

Too bad, Jim Lane.. that it's so "tiresome" for you when Susan Sarandon is being called out.. But, she dragged herself through the fucking mud when she did nothing but tell LIES about Hillary..

Susan Sarandon: Clinton ‘more dangerous’ than Trump

snip//

Actress Susan Sarandon says Hillary Clinton's
foreign policy makes her a greater national security risk than Donald Trump, adding that it's "inevitable" the White House hopeful will be indicted.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282143-susan-sarandon-clinton-more-dangerous-than-trump

[MrsCoffee]

239. Better Believe It!

[uponit7771]

250. Wow, you're fuckin kidding right?!?!

[dawg day]

229. Great catch!

[GitRDun]

62. It's been my experience that sometimes people forget there is a person at the other end of a post.

They write things they never would say to you were you sitting across the table. One of the biggest perils of online communication.

I've also experienced folks assuming they knew all about me because I posted something they disagree with.

I've done the leaving for awhile myself.

Mostly now I have reduced my posting...particularly when there is a wave of highly charged posts flooding the site. Those are the times when folks seem to lose their heads most often.

Hope you'll come back at some point.

Hopefully there will be more room for diverse opinions without the emotional lash back!

[qazplm135]

63. no...please...don't...

so many folks who cannot take even the slightest hits to their ego on a message board.

Whether is't GBCW diaries like this one, or alerts on others, we are soft in so many ways.

[brooklynite]

66. I've criticized Senator Clinton for her campaign strategies in the past...

Nobody banned my posts, nor did the criticism rise to such a level that I couldn’t’ just shake it off.

[MyNameGoesHere]

68. Oh dear

[tammywammy]

70. Bye Felicia

[yardwork]

71. Anybody who doesn't support Hillary Clinton can rot in hell.

[Separation]

73. LOL Ive felt your pain.

I posted a thought a few days ago and I was dogpiled. Looking back, I still stand by my initial thought, I probably should have worded it differently.

It an internet posting board, they can't take your birthday away from ya. So brush it off and move on.

[mitch96]

75. I never understood why people make a formal statement of leaving

Unless of course they want the final "zing" before leaving.. Hell if you don't like the heat in the kitchen, just leave. No fanfare, no statement, just move on down the road to a place you like better...YMMV
m

[bearsfootball516]

77. Exactly. This might sound cold, but...

OP has less than 2,500 posts in 17 years. If they just stopped posting and left...nobody would have noticed. It's not like they're one of the prolific posters with 150,000+ posts.

[phylny]

185. No one would notice if I left, either. n/t

[Tarheel_Dem]

262. It's purely for attention & high fives over at that other site. nt

[riversedge]

76. Best wishes.

[Cha]

78. SS LIED her fucking head off and you were defending her

LIES and excoriating Hillary.. and calling DU "like a banana republic".. how is that not personally attacking members here.. who don't agree with you about Susan RatFucking Sarandon?

Susan Sarandon: Clinton ‘more dangerous’ than Trump

snip//

Actress Susan Sarandon says Hillary Clinton's
foreign policy makes her a greater national security risk than Donald Trump, adding that it's "inevitable" the White House hopeful will be indicted.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282143-susan-sarandon-clinton-more-dangerous-than-trump



Lets set the record straight.. DU members rightfully Pushed back against SS and your trying to smear Hillary.. there were NO personal attacks.

[still_one]

81. Well said Cha. Through her lies she also conned a lot of guilible folks to follow suit based on

those lies

[Cha]

83. Exactly, still_one.. Thank You!

How refreshing.. a GBCW OP from a staunch defender of susan sarand0n's LIES.

The reality based community knows exactly how those LIES from SS and jill stein affected the 2016 outcome.. right along with the Russians rigging the election. They all have this horror show on their hands.

[still_one]

103. Yes they do own it. Perhaps treading light might be advised

There appears an influx of DU from some encouraging division hoping to setup up alert traps.

be careful

[oasis]

177. So right you are. nt

[Hekate]

216. I have noticed this as well

[dawg day]

231. and it remains to be revealed how much part the Russians played in the "opposition"

Can't forget the picture of Stein and Michael Flynn at a banquet with Putin....

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2017/12/21/that-infamous-moscow-dinner-where-michael-flynn-and-jill-stein-sat-with-putin-utahs-rocky-anderson-was-there-too/

I don't know if Stein et al were just "useful idiots' or actual collaborators. But they got used, and Sarandon just keeps saying how she was STILL RIGHT. And Stein won't cooperate with the investigation.

[Cha]

233. And, stein and sarandon will be at it again in 2020...

Thank You for that, dawg day

[Gothmog]

214. For this thread

Link to tweet

[Cha]

219. Protest all you like, Susan Sarandon. In effect you work for Trump

Precisely, Goth.. I remember that article.. Thank You!

Here's a brilliant reply on that tweet thread that was replying to stupid david sirota..

Link to tweet

[Historic NY]

82. Bye Felicia

[link:

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[Jersey Devil]

84. Such drama!

[FakeNoose]

85. Don't let the door hit you on the way out

[ecstatic]

88. buhbye! nt

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

90. Well bye

[yortsed snacilbuper]

91. thoughts and prayers.

[betsuni]

93. Hello, JPR!

[Iggo]

95. Oh, please.

[donkeypoofed]

96. Whatever......buh-bye

[lpbk2713]

98. OK.

But remember there are a hell of a lot more of us who said nothing at all.

It's your decision.

[yuiyoshida]

99. I had left DU .. not long ago but I am back...

My girlfriend told me I need to fight for what I believe in, despite people coming down on you. In my case, I had gotten a few racist remarks sent to me in private. I either erased them or reported them, and yes there are some people who troll DU, looking to make problems. I Never posted at Discussionist, but my name came up some where there and I read the nasty posts they wanted me to see, how I was a fake, how what I said didn't matter cause I was a "Chink"..

But I came back. This Country is too important to me. My ancestors came from Japan to Work in the Sugarcane fields in Hawaii, met and married native Hawaiians,... had the shit scared out of them during Pearl Harbor and stayed close to home not wanting to attract attention that we had Japanese genes..but our family was True Hawaiian too... maybe that's why my folks left, Hawaii, they were fed up with things that went on there, with family and community and moved to San Francisco. They live in Vegas now...I still live the Bay Area in the City... pretty much alone.. But I have Juju now in San Diego as my best friend, and we are talking constantly like a sixteen year old who got her first telephone... spending hours with each other, even when she is at work..

Point is, DU is a place to come talk about politics and get involved. Take your time.. think about what you want to do.

Not many people know, that to say "Sayonara" is to say good bye in a semi permanent way. Its taken that many times people won't come back. To say good bye, knowing you will be back is to say "Mata ne" or "Jyaa mata" which both kind of mean, see you later, in Japanese culture, Just as Aloha has several meanings.. So I will simply say " Jyaa.. mata" . Its simply means.."well...see you later".

[peacebuzzard]

105. So that's what happened,

Sure missed seeing your posts for awhile......people can be cruel, so sorry you went through that.
You always have great insights. I was born in Japan but in a military family, my mom taught me quite a bit of things about her time there. Mom had such a short life.

[yuiyoshida]

108. gomen ne

あなたが受けた損失に同情します。

[JuJuYoshida]

111. I'm a very simple woman so here is my response

You are the best thing that ever happened to me Yui. We belong together and we have BOTH been through rough times there’s no level of that. The point I’m making is when I wake up, I would feel lost and alone if I couldn’t text or talk to you. You are my sunshine day. My life is better with you since we met.

[yuiyoshida]

112. awwws.

[FM123]

206. Juju & Yui thank you both for sharing your light with us!

[crazytown]

100. thoughts and prayers

nt

[yardwork]

115. Thread win.

[shanny]

101. There are many here in the habit of shooting the messenger.

It's too bad imo.

[Cha]

135. "The messenger"?.. Fucking Susan Sarandon's LIES were

were being defended.. that's some fucking message, shanny.

Susan Sarandon: Clinton ‘more dangerous’ than Trump

snip//

Actress Susan Sarandon says Hillary Clinton's
foreign policy makes her a greater national security risk than Donald Trump, adding that it's "inevitable" the White House hopeful will be indicted.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282143-susan-sarandon-clinton-more-dangerous-than-trump

And, Hillary was being Smeared.. nobody on here who cares about our Democracy defends that.

[NurseJackie]

241. You are, of course, correct. She was defending Sarandon's LIES. She was trying to...

You are, of course, correct. She was defending Sarandon's LIES. She was trying to reframe the subject by essentially claiming that Sarandon has a "right to her opinion too"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_entitled_to_my_opinion

I'm entitled to my opinion or I have a right to my opinion is a logical fallacy in which a person discredits any opposition by claiming that they are entitled to their opinion. The statement exemplifies a red herring or thought-terminating cliché. The logical fallacy is often presented as Let's agree to disagree. Whether one has a particular entitlement or right is irrelevant to whether one's assertion is true or false. To assert the existence of the right is a failure to assert any justification for the opinion. Such an assertion, however, can also be an assertion of one's own freedom or of a refusal to participate in the system of logic at hand.[1][2][3]

[mtnsnake]

102. I totally understand where you're coming from in regards to Sarandon and and with Hillary

The problem I sometimes find with DU is that if you push for one candidate over another, even if it's ever so slightly, there are more than a few people who will automatically accuse you of hating the other candidate or candidates. Even though you might like them both, once you start favoring one ever so slightly, some posters get all bent out of shape and will accuse you of all kinds of nonsense if you don't favor their favorite person.

As far as your feelings about Hillary, I think I understand what you mean. I used to push for her passionately on this board a long time ago. Nowadays, not so much. IMO, Hillary running in 2016 is the main reason Trump is in the White House because of what the Right Wing did to her reputation over the last decade AND because she is not a good campaigner at all. Hillary is an amazing person who would I think would have made a very good president, but she was severely lacking as a campaigner.

Good luck to you in the future. You'll probably find your days a lot less stressful once you leave.

[Cha]

136. Yeah, it's all "Hillary fault".. Bullshit. That's Not reality.. but

go ahead and deny deny deny it. That's not going to change what actually happened when the Russians rigged in trump and people like Fucking Susan Sarandon and Fucking jill Ratfucker stein spread LIES about Hillary.

Susan Sarandon: Clinton ‘more dangerous’ than Trump

snip//

Actress Susan Sarandon says Hillary Clinton's
foreign policy makes her a greater national security risk than Donald Trump, adding that it's "inevitable" the White House hopeful will be indicted.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282143-susan-sarandon-clinton-more-dangerous-than-trump

[Javaman]

104. Um okay.

I have seen many a "grand goodbye" on here over the years and very few leave for good.

the stress of american politics takes it's toll on everyone, especially lately.

I see that you rarely post; 2400 posts pver 17 years.

it's not like you have been a major active player on here, but that's okay, it's quality over quantity.

take a break, a month, 6 months, a year. whatever you need.

then come back, we will still be here and we will welcome you back.

just think of it as a sanity sabbatical.

[phylny]

184. Your words are very, very kind. nt

[X_Digger]

106. Don't let the door hit you in the backside. n/t

[Raine]

109. Wishing you all the best

I hope you'll reconsider. Differing voices are needed here, some of us like to hear from someone who has a different point of view.

[yardwork]

116. You can catch them over at JPR. They posted there about us.

[betsuni]

119. Yup.

http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/gang-i-finally-did-it

[Raine]

125. Thanks for the link

I look over there every now and then just see what they're saying about DU but haven't for awhile so hadn't see that post.

[Cha]

139. What's "SV"? And, nedsdag needs to look in the mirror

before she calls anyone a "minion".

Thanks for the link, betsuni

She defended Susan Sarandon's LIES and smeared Hillary.. she forgot that part.

Susan Sarandon: Clinton ‘more dangerous’ than Trump

snip//

Actress Susan Sarandon says Hillary Clinton's
foreign policy makes her a greater national security risk than Donald Trump, adding that it's "inevitable" the White House hopeful will be indicted.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282143-susan-sarandon-clinton-more-dangerous-than-trump

[betsuni]

142. SV is Site Voldemort, what they call DU.

Because they had that rule about not discussing DU, so they called it that instead. I guess the moderators were fooled? "Minion" is practically a compliment compared to the vile things they say about Democrats over there!

[Cha]

147. Ah, thank you! They're so full

of crap.

Just 'cause DU doesn't allow brainwashed gaslighting about Hillary, President Obama, and Dems on the whole they get all pissy. Started their own site.. couldn't be happier the bulk of them left to follow Manny the Hater of the Democratic Party.. and that other one who never met a fact she couldn't twist into a CT.

[NurseJackie]

242. The "recommenders" is like a Who's-Who of familiar malcontents...

... who have also "parted ways". All I'm trying to say here is that from what I've observed, the OP will likely be very much at home over there, and I think it's a good thing that people find online forums where they feel they belong.

[Cha]

138. Actually No.. Democratic Underground doesn't need

anyone Defending Susan Sarandon's LIES and Smearing Hillary.

Susan Sarandon: Clinton ‘more dangerous’ than Trump

snip//

Actress Susan Sarandon says Hillary Clinton's
foreign policy makes her a greater national security risk than Donald Trump, adding that it's "inevitable" the White House hopeful will be indicted.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282143-susan-sarandon-clinton-more-dangerous-than-trump

[Demonaut]

117. good riddance

[Laura PourMeADrink]

122. Noooooooooooooo. Don't go. YES we need to change the rules so people respect

each other's opinion - and we are opened up to constructively critique our party's apparatus. If you don't look within - you will always fail.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

124. Wow, easy to pick out the mean people here

[Cha]

137. It's easy to see who's Not putting up with the Bullshit

of defending Susan Sarandon's LIES and Smearing Hillary.

Susan Sarandon: Clinton ‘more dangerous’ than Trump

snip//

Actress Susan Sarandon says Hillary Clinton's
foreign policy makes her a greater national security risk than Donald Trump, adding that it's "inevitable" the White House hopeful will be indicted.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282143-susan-sarandon-clinton-more-dangerous-than-trump

[obamanut2012]

201. Their name is Gadsen spelled backwards, they are a JPRer

Gloating at JPR. They attacked Hillary and praised SS. Yeah, we are not the "mean people."

[themaguffin]

130. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?termFlounce

[Tarheel_Dem]

133. If you're really gone this time.....

[lunasun]

141. always think of your posting name as a RW tea party thang but if it's personal I won't tread on you

Gadsden Flag Tea Party Don't Tread on Me Embroidered Nylon Flag (2 by 3 Foot)

[Vinnie From Indy]

143. Your post makes no sense

You posit that DU has won and then you say you are leaving. How can both of those notions be true? If DU has beaten you down to a place where you say "you won" would that not mean that you are now converted to a DU way of thinking? Also, what would a DU way of thinking even look like?

When you offer "DU Won", it appears that you are offering that you came here to win some sort of battle and you feel you got your ass kicked.

Are you truly a one issue person? Is Susan Sarandon the Rubicon for you? Is this your ultimate line that no one can cross?

Actually, I find your post mildly amusing for a variety of reasons.

[betsuni]

148. The poster has said "DU is like Free Republic or RedState.com"

If that makes it any clearer.

[pintobean]

146. And another long time DUer walks away.

[ProfessorGAC]

246. Were They REALLY A DUer Pinto?

I've been here for a really long time, and i can honestly say i don't ever remember reading that person's words.

And, i think i would have remembered someone with a screenname that is Gadsden spelled backwards.

[JHan]

149. "you've won" - was there a competition?

Your choice.

I'm not familiar with your posts, but what I saw on another thread was hardly a pile on. I've gotten terse replies from posters and I'm still here.

[WeekiWater]

150. I can't imagine someone planting their flag at Sarandon...

After being here for so long. I can understand the pain one might feel when they perceive a community they call their own turns on them. But Sarandon? I wish you the best. In some dark corner of the internet there might be a Sarandon fan club page that is void of criticism. I doubt it.

[Cha]

161. The OP found it..

http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/gang-i-finally-did-it

[betsuni]

163. LOL

[grantcart]

247. What an idiot

"Defending SS right for free expression"

No one ever wanted to deny her 1st amendment rights, just wanted her held accountable for what she said.

He certainly does have Trump's "I am the victim" routine down

He is right about one thing, with his departure DU is winning.

[Cha]

256. The OP is misrepresenting herself going out the door.. BIG

surprise. nedsdag is a she.

Yeah, it was ok for SS to tell Lies about Hillary but according to nedsdag.. it's Not OK for us to call her out on them..

nedsdag was trying to smear Hillary, too.. another shock especially since she's already stated she wouldn't vote her in the 2016 General Election..

"I'll be fine as well, which is why I'm leaving the presidential slate blank in November."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1811740

[TreeStarsForever]

152. We almost always switch parties every 8 years.

Whoever was the Democratic nominee in 2016 was going to be going against history due to our country almost always switching parties every 8 years.

It is very rare for a party to win 3 consecutive terms.

You combine that historical fact with Russia and James Comey, Hillary is the first candidate for President to go up against Russia and the FBI.

And despite it all, she still won by 3 million more votes.

Remarkable.

PS: Sexism and the media false equivalence between the two candidates were huge factors, too. Bernie didn't help either. Neither did the tax-payer funded witch-hunts into Benghazi and Hillary's e-mails (which the media would never shut up about).

It truly was a "perfect storm."

And yet Hillary still won by 3 million votes. Proves how brilliant she truly is.

[Cha]

159. Thank You for your Refreasing Reality post, TreeStarsForever!

[betsuni]

160. +1

[Gothmog]

209. Russia, Comey and sabatoge by Stein all contributed

Stein was funded by Russia

A vote for stein was a vote for putin and trump

[longime demolurker]

154. SO 😞 DISAPPOINTED

I lurk here from time to time but I must say many people on this thread were unnecessarily rude in their responses. For example:


"Oh dear. How will DU survive?"

"Bye poster."

"Apparently some people must make Official Announcements."

"Poor you. Who were you again?"

"I never understood why people make a formal statement of leaving"

"Don't let the door hit you on the way out".

Very rude. Unessarily so.

[Cha]

158. The OP was "rude" when she defended Susan Sarandon's LIES..

and Smeared Hillary.

This is Democratic Underground.. Not 3rd Party Bullshit U.

Susan Sarandon: Clinton ‘more dangerous’ than Trump

snip//

Actress Susan Sarandon says Hillary Clinton's
foreign policy makes her a greater national security risk than Donald Trump, adding that it's "inevitable" the White House hopeful will be indicted.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282143-susan-sarandon-clinton-more-dangerous-than-trump

The OP ran over to another site and called us "minions".. there are those here, myself included, who are glad that type of brainwashing is gone.

http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/gang-i-finally-did-it

It's not Rude when you're sticking up for Democracy and pissed off at the bullshit that helped get us here.

[still_one]

165. perhaps very lilttle time. This is what the Sarandon's thought of us

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1280104210


What comes around, goes around

[Codeine]

167. They're JPR swine.

Who cares?

[obamanut2012]

202. hahhhahahhahahhahaha

[MrsCoffee]

243. womp womp

[Squinch]

277. I love when people sign up specifically to teach us deportment!

[DinahMoeHum]

281. 'Bye, Felicia.

[H2O Man]

156. Naw.

Take a few days off. Maybe a week or two. Don't take shit personal. And come back.

[nini]

166. Lol

I love these dramatic 'you suck so im leaving' posts.

Bye Felicia

[jpak]

169. So much winning!

Snake-Flag-spelled-backwards

Well - someone had to say it....

[njhoneybadger]

176. No, you win

Now you are free and can devote yourself to defending Susan Sarandon. Perhaps you could
start your own Susan Sarandon appreciation website. Oh the irony of defending Susan Saranrap's
Right to say whatever she wanted but not DUers right to respond.

[DFW]

178. This was a rare occasion, indeed

Since I had no idea who "Nedsdag" was, and don't remember berating her for anything, I looked at the JPR site for the first time in I-don't-Know-When. Here was the proud announcement:


"Gang! I finally did it
"I’ve left SV for good. After being berated for defending Susan Sarandon for her right to free expression, the minions went after me."


I'm not sure if I'm one of the evil minions, but I'll survive either way. The only thing left to clear up is why we are now "SV" and not "DU." Can anyone fill me in on what SV stands for? I'm sure it's so horrible, I'll need oxygen when I find out, but I'm curious nonetheless (I haven't yet had a good laugh today). The only SV I know of would be Stevie Ray Vaughan minus the "R," and while I'd cherish the honor of the comparison (if only I could play the blues like Stevie did!), I suspect something else was meant.

[betsuni]

180. SV means Site Voldemort. We are evil minions!

I'm sure people who think DU is just like a RedState Banana Republic echo chamber and members hate progressives; that Democrats are controlled by wealthy elite Hollywood donors; Russian interference wasn't a factor in the general election; the 2016 Democratic candidate in the general election, "Mrs. Clinton," ran a terrible campaign, was full of hubris, didn't go to Wisconsin; Democrats lose and it has nothing to do with anything Republicans do, would be happier elsewhere.

[DFW]

181. Hmmm, I guess that's original.

If that's how they see us, then I'm surprised any of them come here at all without first putting on tinfoil hats and oxygen masks, using their laptops in sterile rooms. Come to think of it---better not ask.

[betsuni]

182. Yes, better not ask.

[njhoneybadger]

187. Hmmmmmmmmmm Really

Who's the minion
I guess she can come back under another name.

[DFW]

192. Since I wasn't familiar with her under this name

I don't suppose it'll rock my boat one way or the other if she comes back under another one. People's syntax rarely changes, so I'm sure a resurrection wouldn't be difficult to spot.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

183. after blaming Hillary? GTFO!

You blame Hillary in spite of ALL the shit that is KNOWN to have been used to skew the election?
Ignoring Russian interference?
Ignoring Comey?
Ignoring Gowdy?
Ignoring the m$m's (finally admitted) false equivalencies and "clouds and shadows" attacks?

She beat 'em all and came close to taking the electoral college in the face of the worst rigging documented so far.

And you blame Hillary?

Good enough for me to say, good riddance! Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

[StevieM]

230. Had it not been for Comey's nonsense she would have won decisively, even with all of

Putin's shenanigans.

[VOX]

188. Your descendants will sing songs for decades about this heroic, landmark decision.

But don’t let the screen door whap you in the duff on the way out. Vaya con dios.

[njhoneybadger]

190. Probably goes by several other names on DU

She ain't goin nowhere. It was such an emotional performance dam near brought tears to my
Poor eyes. Oh the humanity

[VOX]

193. Like the old vaudeville flypaper gag: you pull it off your shoe, and it sticks to your hand.

So you grab it with your other hand, but then it adheres to that one. So you step on it to get it off your hand, and the cycle repeats itself. There’s no getting free from it altogether.

But for a “I’m taking my jacks and ball and going HOME!” farewell, it was remarkably mediocre. (I’m being generous.)

[muriel_volestrangler]

194. "Come November, it'll be Republican vs. Republican Light"

"I can't wait to see the look on your face when she gives her concession speech this November"
https://www.democraticunderground.com/12511275177

"I'll be fine as well, which is why I'm leaving the presidential slate blank in November."
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1811740

So it's good to see that this year you're voting for Democrats. But we can see why "enabler" is used.

[betsuni]

195. Thank you. This wasn't about "Susan Sarandon's right to say whatever she wanted."

[Cha]

220. Exactly.. No, it was NOT.. the OP is misrepresenting her intentions going out the door..

Now why is that? She doesn't realize she's left bread crumbs to her real intentions?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1811740

[betsuni]

226. Some are really invested in portraying DU as a group-think echo chamber choir,

but it's a group for Democrats: why wouldn't we correct misinformation about the party by people who didn't vote for our candidate in the last general election!

[Cha]

232. Yeah, that's one of their faves at JPR while

posting in an.. wait for it.. ((((((((ECHO CHAMBER))))))))!

Good point about correcting their misinformation.

[JHan]

217. wow

[Cha]

221. Thank You, m_v

[grantcart]

249. "Leave the Presidential ballot blank"

Wow

[obamanut2012]

198. Upthread there is evidence you are a JPR poster

So..... to your GBCW post.

[dembotoz]

200. can't say i blame you..you are not alone

[Comatose Sphagetti]

204. I feel 'ya, Nedsdag.

Just got blocked. No rules violation; something people didn't want to hear.

[Tarheel_Dem]

263. What did you get "blocked" from? Makes no sense if you're still able to post.

[obamanut2012]

282. +1

[LovingA2andMI]

207. Yep...

And any real talk how Joe Manchin betrayed the Democratic Party and his fellow Democrat Senators while claiming to be a Democrat....is not par for the course these days either.

Interesting and ironic at the same time.

Either way, best wishes to you.

[louis c]

212. Bye

Susan Sarandon is an asshole.

The Green Party has done more to hurt this country than any other entity in 20 years. They gave us Bush and Trump because they took votes away from a candidate that was 80% in agreement with them and allowed a candidate who agreed with them 0% of the time to win...twice.

Fuck them. Everyone has a right to speak. No shit. And so do I.

[dawg day]

227. Goodbye, cruel list!

I remember back in the days of Compuserve, we used to call such proclamation "GCLs".

I'm one who always has to have the last word, so I -never- left a list. (Been thrown off some.

[Tarc]

234. Good, I alerted on one of your posts.

Hopefully that was a part of the takedown.

Bye Felicia!

[revmclaren]

236. Enjoy (J)ust (P)utin's (R)adicals while it still exists...

Only! 2018 - 2020.

[namahage]

237. I thought it stood for Juveniles Playing Revolutionaries. n/t

[betsuni]

238. Same thing.

[disillusioned73]

240. Sorry about this..

I avoid DU on weekends.. I would have defended your position because the silliness has gotten out of control, and the vote shaming has been counter-productive.. But I believe it is by design and a campaign to keep the distraction in the fore..

I wish you well

[Vinca]

248. Posts like this are just silly. If you don't want to read every post, it's not required.

If you were called names, other participants would have been alerted. Stay, leave, who cares?

[uponit7771]

251. The poster was a JPR troll, DU is pretty popular

[Vinca]

254. Well, that explains it. Good riddance.

[Iggo]

252. Jesus! You're not gone yet?

Oh wait.

That's my fault.

Forgot to trash this thread.

Sorry about that!

[Cha]

257. Yeah, you just had to kick this thread and let us know

how special you are for trashing.

[Iggo]

259. Ayup.

[Cha]

260. ..

[NurseJackie]

265. ...

[Gothmog]

255. I went over to JPR and saw this cartoon

the posters on JPR hated it which made me smile

[Cha]

258. Wow.. why would they even

post reality?!

[hatrack]

261. M'kay, bye!

.

[NurseJackie]

264. My favorite thread this month.

[betsuni]

266. Mine too!

[Catherine Vincent]

267. LOL

Haven't seen one of these in a while.

[Honeycombe8]

269. Maybe yu can take a looooong break and come back. I went thru this, too.

I quit the site years ago and came back after a long break. It does get to be too much, and too hostile, at times.

I hope you come back.

[Aristus]

271. Nothing like a good rage-quit, amirite?

You should ask around and see if Susan Sarandon needs a publicist.

[Demsrule86]

272. Enjoy JPR if it survives...yeah I saw your post.

Susan Sarandon said Hillary and Trump were the same. They were not. She helped elect Trump. She won't admit how wrong she is...I never listen or watch anything she is a participant in...Those who refuse to admit how wrong they were about Hillary Clinton and the hell that has been unleashed on this country as a result do not deserve to be listened to. Thank Susan for the thousands of children in concentration camps and the end of Roe V Wade. Elections have consequences. This election will for decades I am glad my consicence is clear. I worked my ass of to elect Hillary and have fought hard against Trump. I don't have the time nor the inclination to give two shits what traitor Sarandon has to say.

[betsuni]

274. +1

[Oneironaut]

288. Yay! I won! Do I get a new car?

[NurseJackie]

294. Good guess! But, it's really...

[pat_k]

296. I understand the sentiment. But with so many "old timers"...

... giving up on DU, it just becomes less and less useful as a place to that generates a sense hope, connection, and activism.