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Updated 10:30 PM ET, Fri October 5, 2018
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Washington (CNN)Sen. Lisa Murkowski said Friday that she remains a "no" on Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh but will vote "present" for Saturday's final vote, which won't affect Kavanaugh's confirmation but will allow Sen. Steve Daines to stay at his daughter's wedding in his home state instead of flying to Washington to cast his supporting vote.
Daines, a Montana Republican who has supported Kavanaugh's nomination, has been scheduled to attend his daughter's wedding on Saturday for months and made it clear he wouldn't be skipping the ceremony.
"I will be a 'no' tomorrow," Murkowski, an Alaska Republican, said on the Senate floor. "I will, in the final tally, be asked to be recorded as present and I do this because a friend, a colleague of ours, is in Montana this evening, and tomorrow at just about the same hour we're going to be voting, he's going to be walking his daughter down the aisle and he won't be present to vote."
"I have extended this as a courtesy to my friend," she added. "It will not change the outcome of the vote."
If no senators change their votes from Friday's cloture roll call, the final tally will sit at 50-48 at Saturday's final confirmation vote, enough for Republicans to confirm Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court with no senator holding the sole deciding vote.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/05/politics/lisa-murkowski-senate-vote-present-kavanaugh/index.html
global1
(25,261 posts)She could now have it both ways. Can say she was on record to vote 'no' but voted 'present' as a courtesy for a friend. And she can also say she didn't vote 'no' on Kavanaugh.
It just depends what group she's talking to.
Also can make campaign ads both ways. It's just a disingenuous weasel way out.
RestoreAmerica2020
(3,437 posts)dis·in·gen·u·ous
ˌdisənˈjenyo͞oəs/Submit
adjective
not candid or sincere.
synonyms: insincere, dishonest, untruthful, false, deceitful, duplicitous, lying, mendacious; hypocritical. Ex.
"that innocent, teary-eyed look is just part of a disingenuous act"
Note: example given (take from online dictionary ) seems as though it was written for the likes of kavanaugh and gop with their usual chicanery on display.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,004 posts)dalton99a
(81,539 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)So fucking considerate.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)You expect your Senator to stand up for your interests, and Alaska Natives (who are the reason she's in office) flew all the way to D.C. to let her know what they expected of her, and that was a "No vote." Choosing not to vote at all because of some bullshit reason about not wanting to bother another senator's vacation plans (because that's what it really is) is the least courageous action she could have taken. I hope Alaskan Natives turn on her and kick her frozen ass out.
MichMan
(11,950 posts)Much less providing the votes that allowed her to defeat a Democratic opponent.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)Her NO is important.
Let someone else vote present.
tritsofme
(17,387 posts)Since Murkowski is the only GOP no vote, she is the only one who could pair, unless a Democratic senator was willing to play along.
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)dflprincess
(28,080 posts)Daines can make his own decisions about what matters to him.
Girard442
(6,081 posts)I hear he's really the life of the party after he's loosened up with a coupla-three drinks.
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MineralMan
(146,320 posts)Maybe it's worth it. I don't know.
WhiteTara
(29,719 posts)MineralMan
(146,320 posts)moriah
(8,311 posts)... even when quoting something far less obscure than Yoko Ono.
Thanks for deciding on discretion.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)He openly lied over and over again, and he WAS linked to hurting women but they refused to allow the FBI to show anything other than what they wanted so he would pass. She's a fraud and will be done soon enough for this.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)k8conant
(3,030 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)He should not be penalized for it. I have more and more respect for her .every day. She does the right thing. And it will increase her popularity in Arizona as she gets to have it both ways....as fate would have it...unlike Susan Collins.
moriah
(8,311 posts)Being from Arkansas (AR), which people will assume looking at the abbreviation is Arizona (AZ) or address our packages to Alaska (AK), I'm understanding of how the confusion can occur. And I am sure Alaskans get annoyed at their packages getting addressed to Alabama (AL).
Thank the FSM for zip codes or mail wouldn't get anywhere.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)MGKrebs
(8,138 posts)I don't understand this.
Even if she voted 'no' it would be 50-49. So is it really Manchin she is protecting?
MGKrebs
(8,138 posts)Manchin, the only Dem to support Kav, didn't want to be the deciding vote. If Murk were to vote no, he WOULD be the deciding vote, and maybe would even change his vote to no, killing the nom.
PufPuf23
(8,802 posts)Let Daines be there to cast a vote.
Politician BS.
SomethingNew
(279 posts)It doesn't change the outcome of the vote or the margin of the final tally. It doesn't allow for any wiggle room to deny the vote come election time since all of this was so we'll publicized. The only person it affects is the guy trying to go to his daughter's wedding and his daughter. I don't think anyone should be discouraging this out of spite or pettiness.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)rusty fender
(3,428 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)If Manchin would decide to vote no, it would be 49-49. If Murkowski then decided to vote no instead of a present, it would be 49-50. Then the vote would be held open until Daines returned and voted yes to make it 50-50 and Pence would cast the tie-breaking vote for Kavanaugh.
Murkowski did Daines, who is up for re-election in 2020, a big favor by allowing him to avoid being the deciding vote on Kavanaugh, but that's about it.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)JDC
(10,130 posts)Yes, these spineless swamp creatures are worthless! Hope Karma finds them all!
JCanete
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