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(86,004 posts)
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 06:41 AM Oct 2018

Christine Blasey Ford's Attorneys Release New Statement From Friend She Told About Assault Years Ago

DeanLeh @DeanLeh 29m29 minutes ago
Christine Blasey Ford’s Attorneys Reveal Statement From Corroborating Witness https://www.yahoo.com/news/christine-blasey-ford-attorneys-reveal-043956404.html?soc_src=hl-viewer&soc_trk=tw … via @YahooNews

Christine Blasey Ford’s legal team has released a statement from her friend Keith Koegler, who provided an account that appears to corroborate Ford’s testimony accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault, but the FBI did not interview him.

In a letter to the Senate, Koegler expressed concern over its decision to rush Kavanaugh’s confirmation process without hearing from Ford’s corroborating witnesses, including himself.

Koegler said in a signed declaration that Ford, a Palo Alto University professor, told him about the alleged assault in 2016, around the time former Stanford University student Brock Turner was sentenced for raping an unconscious woman. He said she told him about it again three months ago in an email.

The letter was obtained by Fox News anchor Shannon Bream and MSNBC’s Kyle Griffin.

“There are a minimum of 7 additional people, known to the White House, the Senate Judiciary Committee and the FBI who knew about the assault prior to the nomination who were not interviewed,” Koegler wrote. “I am one of them.”




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Christine Blasey Ford's Attorneys Release New Statement From Friend She Told About Assault Years Ago (Original Post) bigtree Oct 2018 OP
What this country needs is a good federal bureau... dchill Oct 2018 #1
What this country needs is to vote the bastards out come November watoos Oct 2018 #2
I can't bash something that appears not to exist. dchill Oct 2018 #3
That is SO true! Cornyn implied the report deduced Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #12
Lord knows J. Edgar didn't wait for any mere President... dchill Oct 2018 #17
I admit I have thought of J. Edgar.... nt Hekate Oct 2018 #39
In this case watoos Oct 2018 #26
True...talking transparency and sunlight.. Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #33
Dr. Ford's attorneys aren't bashing the FBI bigtree Oct 2018 #4
Exactly. Blue_true Oct 2018 #9
I could be totally wrong here, but did FBI bosses try to curry favor with Trump? Lonestarblue Oct 2018 #21
C'mon man watoos Oct 2018 #27
The only way DownriverDem Oct 2018 #23
Maybe a new law like "white House is recused from directing FBI for SCOTUS BACKGROUND CHECKS" OhNo-Really Oct 2018 #18
I'm NOT dumping on the FBI. dchill Oct 2018 #20
It's not that complicated, watoos Oct 2018 #30
The Republicans know he did it torius Oct 2018 #5
Even if a gang raped teen or young woman preserved her underwear with his DNA in it. Blue_true Oct 2018 #10
or they would hunt her down, eliminate her, and destroy/suppress the evidence anarch Oct 2018 #15
Yep and we have ONE last chance to change that in a month. Blue_true Oct 2018 #16
Why they don't care DownriverDem Oct 2018 #24
Allowing a corrupt serial liar onto the highest court in this land duforsure Oct 2018 #6
yep. Price to be paid for an incomplete investigation bigtree Oct 2018 #8
I am not convinced that women will vote against them. Blue_true Oct 2018 #13
republican lies will be exposed Achilleaze Oct 2018 #7
So their lies get exposed, but Bernie or someone else make a shitshow of our primary. Blue_true Oct 2018 #14
Ahem, watoos Oct 2018 #31
There are two sides to that coin. Blue_true Oct 2018 #37
As long as Kavanaugh is around this sh*t show will continue pdsimdars Oct 2018 #11
Perjury - Can anyone list all the people who have lied before the Senate with no conquencws? OhNo-Really Oct 2018 #19
Just like in Anita Hill's case there were 3 different women all of whom did not know each other ... Botany Oct 2018 #22
+1 dalton99a Oct 2018 #36
Evidence means nothing to these current republicans because they need Kavanaugh on the SCOTUS ASAP.. Botany Oct 2018 #38
Does that count as a corroborating witness? MadDAsHell Oct 2018 #25
To me it doesn't. LisaL Oct 2018 #28
Why wouldn't it be a corroborating witness? watoos Oct 2018 #32
To that extent I agree. But "corraborating" is often used on DU synonymously with "proof." MadDAsHell Oct 2018 #35
It does not matter if there is video tape and DNA on her saved swim suit Freethinker65 Oct 2018 #29
The confirmation will go through today but this doesn't and should not be accepted as BeckyDem Oct 2018 #34

dchill

(38,511 posts)
1. What this country needs is a good federal bureau...
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:10 AM
Oct 2018

that could investigate things of this nature. Hasn't anyone thought of this?

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
2. What this country needs is to vote the bastards out come November
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:24 AM
Oct 2018

and not bashing the FBI for following orders. Blame the people in the White House who wouldn't allow the FBI to investigate. Heck, I'm even ok for blaming Democrats for not raising more hell over the investigation that they knew was a sham.

dchill

(38,511 posts)
3. I can't bash something that appears not to exist.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:30 AM
Oct 2018

The rules of the game have been bent to make the FBI appear to be validating whatever Trump and the Republicans say.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. That is SO true! Cornyn implied the report deduced
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:17 AM
Oct 2018

She was lying. Why can't we demand that the FBI release a statement on the exact scope of the BI...and who they didn't talk to?

Surely they don't always have to get their marching orders from -45...or we are in serious trouble! Perhaps it's just with BIs? Sounds like a scandal to me

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
26. In this case
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:20 AM
Oct 2018

the FBI did get its marching orders from the White House. Remember, this wasn't a criminal investigation, it was a background check and yes it's sad to say, the FBI did its job. Its job ended up being a sham investigation to give Senators cover to vote for a monster.

Let's bash the people who deserved to be bashed, Trump and McGahn.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
33. True...talking transparency and sunlight..
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 10:09 AM
Oct 2018

Not in content but in process.

Word is mcGahn told GOP and Dipshit that if the FBI did a full investigation...BK wouldn't make it.

bigtree

(86,004 posts)
4. Dr. Ford's attorneys aren't bashing the FBI
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:36 AM
Oct 2018

...like the rest of us, they're looking for answers.

This effort to make sense of the 'investigation' comes before the vote has actually taken place. We deserve answers about the scope of the probe and who determined that and when.

At some point, someone at the bureau or the WH will need to account for their actions. We don't know shit right now.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
9. Exactly.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:12 AM
Oct 2018

Look, put yourself in the shoes of an FBI field agent or regional supervisor. If your bosses tell you that there are no fish around for a hundred miles, you won't see fish, even if a fish fly out of the water and hit you in the face. With their bosses stacking the deck, FBI agents would have essentially resigned if they had performed a proper investigation.

Looks like Kavanaugh is on the Court. The private investigations into his conduct should continue, maybe there was a teen girl or young woman that he gang raped who had enough awareness to preserve the DNA on her undergarments. As more damning evidence comes out against him, a Justice like Roberts will have to decide whether he wants to be associated historically with Kavanaugh. If Roberts decide that he doesn't, then his decision means nothing if we don't take back Congress and get rid of Trump in 2020.

Lonestarblue

(10,030 posts)
21. I could be totally wrong here, but did FBI bosses try to curry favor with Trump?
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:00 AM
Oct 2018

They may not have been able to do a lot, but it was clear that what Trump was saying in public was totally different from the private instructions given by McGahn. By not publicly talking about the differences in instructions and asking for clarification of intent, they gained Trump’s favor. Is Kavanaugh’s confirmation their trade for less heat from the White House? It’s obvious that they did not do a thorough vetting of Kavanaugh in their six background checks. Why not—because he’s a Republican? I also cannot forget the FBI agents in New York, and I suspect elsewhere, who were heavily in favor of Trump and manipulated information against Clinton, along with Comey. Comey is gone, but the nest of vipers in New York has just been ignored as far as I know. How many more such people are in the FBI? I know the Constitution detemines reporting structure, but I wish we could truly have a Department of Justice not so dependent on party politics.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
27. C'mon man
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:26 AM
Oct 2018

that's the right wing narrative out there that Trump wanted a full scale investigation and McGahn overruled Trump and limited it. Give me a break. McGahn took a bullet for Trump, he is leaving the White House and I bet a nice cushy job is awaiting him. Saying that Trump wanted a full investigation is utter nonsense.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
18. Maybe a new law like "white House is recused from directing FBI for SCOTUS BACKGROUND CHECKS"
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:44 AM
Oct 2018

Why join Trump in dumping on thr FBI?

dchill

(38,511 posts)
20. I'm NOT dumping on the FBI.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:52 AM
Oct 2018

I believe the FBI should be able to INVESTIGATE. I'm pretty sure J Edgar Hoover investigated whatever. I also believe there are real reasons the entire Senate was provided with only ONE COPY of their report, which was held secret. There's something really SCIFfy going on.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
30. It's not that complicated,
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:35 AM
Oct 2018

this wasn't a criminal investigation it was a background check and IMO Trump set the guidelines for the investigation and McGahn took the fall. I mean it's obvious that the FBI had its hands tied in who and what it was allowed to investigate and that is the scam.

We will have a monster on the SC. The private investigations need to continue, the truth about the monster needs to be made public and then we tie the Republican party, the party of family values, to this monster. Yeah I know his base won't give a shit but who gives a shit about his base. He is losing Independents over this, he will be left with his cult and the very rich.

torius

(1,652 posts)
5. The Republicans know he did it
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:44 AM
Oct 2018

And they don’t care. Even if there was a film of it, they would not care.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. Even if a gang raped teen or young woman preserved her underwear with his DNA in it.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:15 AM
Oct 2018

Republicans would claim it was all cobdensual, or that the woman was somewhat loose then had regrets after. They will continue to do that until we stop voting like fools and vote them out of office.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
15. or they would hunt her down, eliminate her, and destroy/suppress the evidence
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:22 AM
Oct 2018

If they could get to her before too much information was made public. I honestly think that's where we're at at this point. Our government has been taken over by actual mobsters; if they're too squeamish to do the dirty deeds themselves, they can just outsource it to the Russians.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. Yep and we have ONE last chance to change that in a month.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:29 AM
Oct 2018

Never Trump republicans? Now is their time, if they come out of a voting booth having voted for ONE republican, regardless of how much they liked that person, then they contributed to the destruction of this country.

DownriverDem

(6,230 posts)
24. Why they don't care
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:15 AM
Oct 2018

All repubs care about is winning and keeping power. As we have seen they will do anything to win.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
6. Allowing a corrupt serial liar onto the highest court in this land
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:59 AM
Oct 2018

Will make generations of women vote against them , and as more comes out will only make them stronger against trump and the gop in their future. Generations of women will now abandon the republican party for good. Ignoring all these facts by refusal to have a credible investigation against kavanaugh is not an excuse , or acceptable, and they'll pay the price for decades. The truth is their biggest enemy, and it'll continue to show and prove them wrong, and knew all along it was all probably true , and they allowed someone like this onto OUR highest court . How corrupt and wrong! A con job! I hope now women really pick up steam and expose all Republicans who are having , or have had affairs , especially against trump , and expose them all now. I suspect many others will come out against kavanaugh, and prove how bad he really was , and has been, and not just abusing women. A lot more will expose him. Its not over for kavanaugh. Its just begun.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. I am not convinced that women will vote against them.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:18 AM
Oct 2018

When our 2020 primary happens, if a candidate has sour grapes and refuse to concede the obvious, idealistic young women will delude themselves into believing that they are striking at the "establishment" by not voting for our nominee.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
7. republican lies will be exposed
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:03 AM
Oct 2018

I mean, I think they are exposed already for any discerning person. But they will be exposed further. And then republicans will lie about their lies. Sad.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. So their lies get exposed, but Bernie or someone else make a shitshow of our primary.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:21 AM
Oct 2018

And we have idealistic people rioting in the street at our convention, then refusing to vote for our nominee in the General. Then republican lies mean nothing because they still control the mechanisms of government.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
37. There are two sides to that coin.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 11:55 AM
Oct 2018

In 2008, I passionately supported Hillary Clinton. Then it became clear that she could not get the nomination. Then I wanted her to be the VP choice, but Joe Biden was chosen. I was pissed. But you know what, the choice of Senator Obama or Senator McCain sunk into my head, not only did I suport then Senator Obama, I maxed out contributions to his campaign and I talked to whoever I could about voting for him. That is how it should be done when the choice between only two people that can become President is clear.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
11. As long as Kavanaugh is around this sh*t show will continue
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:17 AM
Oct 2018

and it's not because of the media, it's because of the sh*t HE created that is now coming home to roost.
He was right about one thing . . what goes around comes around. You'll be living it brett

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
19. Perjury - Can anyone list all the people who have lied before the Senate with no conquencws?
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:51 AM
Oct 2018

GOP is using the excuse that "there were no eye witnesses"

So shameful in light of all who have testified that BK was a drunked aggressive asshat often

Botany

(70,539 posts)
22. Just like in Anita Hill's case there were 3 different women all of whom did not know each other ...
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:06 AM
Oct 2018

... or Ms. Hill ready to testify that Clarence had acted in the same way to them too. They were
not called.


“There are a minimum of 7 additional people, known to the White House, the Senate Judiciary Committee and the FBI who knew about the assault prior to the nomination who were not interviewed,” Koegler wrote. “I am one of them.”

Botany

(70,539 posts)
38. Evidence means nothing to these current republicans because they need Kavanaugh on the SCOTUS ASAP..
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 02:03 PM
Oct 2018

..... in order to help stop Mueller and the outer investigations into Russia's attack on
the U.S. and Trump and the GOP's work with them to rig our elections. We are way past
"meddling with the elections" but right into treason and a coup territory.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
25. Does that count as a corroborating witness?
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:18 AM
Oct 2018

A corraborating witness is someone who can speak to the events in question 36 years ago, but this just sounds like someone who Dr. Ford told her own story to a couple years ago? How would that be corraboration?

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
28. To me it doesn't.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:29 AM
Oct 2018

This is someone she told many years after the fact. This someone can only corroborate what she told him many years after the fact, not what was happening at the time when this incident alleged to have taken place.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
32. Why wouldn't it be a corroborating witness?
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:42 AM
Oct 2018

Republicans and Kavanaugh are claiming this is a left wing conspiracy. Dr. Ford told people about the assault before she knew that Kavanaugh was the nominee.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
35. To that extent I agree. But "corraborating" is often used on DU synonymously with "proof."
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 10:17 AM
Oct 2018

Telling a friend 2 years prior certainly combats the Con notion that the accusation was made up on the spot post-nomination. But certainly wouldn’t be accepted as proof, unfortunately.

Freethinker65

(10,029 posts)
29. It does not matter if there is video tape and DNA on her saved swim suit
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:32 AM
Oct 2018

Lying under oath to the Senate and pledging to be partisan is now a requirement to get GOP votes for judicial confirmations. Kavanaugh showed complete loyalty to the GOP over loyalty to the US Constitution. That is all the GOP ever cared about. And the entire matter played out in public for voters to witness because like Kavanaugh, the GOP seeks and vows to destroy anything that they remotely think is pro the "Clinton left". Impartiality for judges is dead.

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