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milestogo

(16,829 posts)
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:07 PM Oct 2018

So Dr Ford was a highly credible witness except that

she was confused about the person who assaulted her. So say many Republicans.

How would you mistake a person who you already knew, and whose name you already knew, and who was face to face with you pinning your body to a bed under his body? How is that even possible?

Anyone who says she is credible but mistaken about her attacker's identity is making an incomprehensible, nonsensical statement to cover for their unwillingness to recognize the truth when it is staring them in the face.

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So Dr Ford was a highly credible witness except that (Original Post) milestogo Oct 2018 OP
They don't want to look at themselves. madaboutharry Oct 2018 #1
GOPers know the truth, but will deny it. Iliyah Oct 2018 #2
Anyone who has ever fought with me and held their hand over my mouth lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #3
Before the age of 5 my next door neighbor friend put her hand over my mouth and nose and Maraya1969 Oct 2018 #6
I wish she hadn't come forward leftstreet Oct 2018 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2018 #5
Welcome to DU, Steelholder Rhiannon12866 Oct 2018 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2018 #9
The FBI "investigation" was bogus Rhiannon12866 Oct 2018 #10
Maybe A Recipe Is Needed? JimGinPA Oct 2018 #15
Oh! Where is our companion tonight?? Rhiannon12866 Oct 2018 #17
If one in three women is assaulted but only a tiny fraction ever tell anyone BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #11
She hurried out of the house and told no one. She was a 15 year old girl pnwmom Oct 2018 #16
Dick Durbin asked her how sure she was it was Kavanaugh and she said 100%. Rhiannon12866 Oct 2018 #7
And it's not like she was 3 or 4 years old----FIFTEEN --- old enough to remember well a face Doitnow Oct 2018 #12
i don't think you're getting it IAMSPARTICUS Oct 2018 #13
Yup - you are correct. nt Lucky Luciano Oct 2018 #18
Republicans don't want to call her a liar on the record JohnnyRingo Oct 2018 #14
You are absolutely correct in your summation. pennylane100 Oct 2018 #19
Poll Tested DallasNE Oct 2018 #20
She's crystal clear on the settings and circumstances. argyl Oct 2018 #21
disingenuous crap. They just don't give a shit. anarch Oct 2018 #22
Kicking because I am still hearing the same shit. milestogo Oct 2018 #23

madaboutharry

(40,213 posts)
1. They don't want to look at themselves.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:13 PM
Oct 2018

It’s an excuse they are using to try to convince themselves that they are decent people. They’re telling themselves this so they don’t have to admit to themselves that they really don’t care.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. GOPers know the truth, but will deny it.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:14 PM
Oct 2018

They needed him on the bench before the mid term, and that's all that matters.

But this time, the truth will come out about sexual assaults and lies under oath. GOPers as well as t-rump kills everything that is good.

Apparently the secret hold on one copy of the FBI investigation document says otherwise and that Dr. Ford in fact was assaulted but GOPers say another did it bullshit.

lapfog_1

(29,213 posts)
3. Anyone who has ever fought with me and held their hand over my mouth
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:29 PM
Oct 2018

I remember... my brother (once... next time I threatened him with a knife... he was 16 and I was 10). He left me alone after that.

another time was my high school girlfriend... but she just wanted be to be quiet in her bedroom because her dad came home early.

And that's it... nobody else every tried to choke me or cut off my air accidentally or on purpose.

Maraya1969

(22,486 posts)
6. Before the age of 5 my next door neighbor friend put her hand over my mouth and nose and
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:00 AM
Oct 2018

I couldn't breath. I was in a complete panic. I know what Dr. Ford meant by, "inadvertently kill me" because that is what I thought was going to happen to me.

I'm 60 now and I still get that panicky fear when I think about that time. And I'm sure it was only seconds long that she held her hands there.

I think that is what really did damage to Dr. Ford's emotional state.

leftstreet

(36,109 posts)
4. I wish she hadn't come forward
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:29 PM
Oct 2018

I watched her testimony and I believe her. And I hope she's not reliving the same anguish she once experienced hearing now of Kavanaugh's confirmation

But she was used. They had PLENTY of reasons to vote against him - missing documents, perjury, involvement with GWB - Iraq - Patriot Act - unitary executive etc

She was used as cover. They knew they were going to confirm him.

One wonders just how much dirt these rightwing fuckers have on every last one of our elected reps

Response to milestogo (Original post)

Rhiannon12866

(205,664 posts)
8. Welcome to DU, Steelholder
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:28 AM
Oct 2018

We're all feeling the very same way today. We're glad that you're here among friends.

Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #8)

Rhiannon12866

(205,664 posts)
10. The FBI "investigation" was bogus
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:42 AM
Oct 2018

People stepped up and contacted the FBI to give them information that backed her up, but they were never interviewed. This was already a done deal, unbelievable as that is - that this was the nominee they wanted.

BigmanPigman

(51,614 posts)
11. If one in three women is assaulted but only a tiny fraction ever tell anyone
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:45 AM
Oct 2018

during their entire lives and some men are assaulted and never tell either (look at the victims of abuse by priests). Do the math...33% of people are sexually assaulted. How many men do you see in the GOP and this fake prez's admin? A ton! Continue with the math...how many of all of those men have probanly assualted a person during their lives...a lot more than just Kavanaugh! A lot, lot more!

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
16. She hurried out of the house and told no one. She was a 15 year old girl
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 01:09 AM
Oct 2018

who blamed herself for having a beer and getting into that situation, so she just got out of the house as quickly as possible.

The handful of drinking teens in the living room were having a good time with each other and didn't notice her leave. That's very easy to imagine. These were teens. Drunk, self-absorbed teens, in a very casual gathering.

She didn't tell anyone at the time because she was ashamed, and then she bottled up the feelings because that's what victims often do. It hurts too much to think about what happened. It feels easier to rationalize -- "at least they didn't rape me" -- and go on.

Rhiannon12866

(205,664 posts)
7. Dick Durbin asked her how sure she was it was Kavanaugh and she said 100%.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:26 AM
Oct 2018

She was not "confused," she already knew him and his "buddy." She was not likely to forget an experience like that.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
12. And it's not like she was 3 or 4 years old----FIFTEEN --- old enough to remember well a face
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:51 AM
Oct 2018

that close to her. No confusion there.

IAMSPARTICUS

(17 posts)
13. i don't think you're getting it
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 01:01 AM
Oct 2018

they know she was telling the truth.....THEY JUST DON'T GIVE A SHIT. they play to win. democrats play to be fair.

JohnnyRingo

(18,638 posts)
14. Republicans don't want to call her a liar on the record
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 01:07 AM
Oct 2018

and they can't call Kavenaugh a liar, so they're trying it both ways.

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
19. You are absolutely correct in your summation.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 01:44 AM
Oct 2018

I would just like to add just a few more words Those who claim that she is very credible but mistaken, are just lying morons in this conversation. What more maddening is that we gave air time to a drooling idiot trying (and now apparently succeeding) to claim one of the highest offices in our land. We were deprived of our right to take the time to look into his dark side.

While this is a scary twist in our democratic society. More so is the fact that we will have to wait until the next election and hope that we will, at least, win the right to power sharing. Then and only then can we make the views of the majority heard.

I think we need to line our laws up much closer to true democratic ideals

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
20. Poll Tested
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 01:49 AM
Oct 2018

Mistaken identity is what focus group testing said sold the best. Doesn't matter that it is so illogical.

argyl

(3,064 posts)
21. She's crystal clear on the settings and circumstances.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:00 AM
Oct 2018

But she confuses the SOB who actually assaults her?

That is total horse shit.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
22. disingenuous crap. They just don't give a shit.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:07 AM
Oct 2018

it's a handy line they can use and have their dumbass constituency parrot it when confronted about this farce.

Well, if nothing else, I officially give up on expecting anything at all from any approach to dealing with these fuckers that involves them being expected to be reasonable in any sense. I've probably said this before...but this just seals it for me. At this point I expect any Republican in any circumstance to be an unreasonable asshole, with whom there's no point interacting in any way. These morons just need to be defeated; there's no sense in trying to engage them whatsoever.

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