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Hekate

(90,753 posts)
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:40 PM Oct 2018

We went down a rabbit hole & never demanded an explanation of Kav's judicial decisions...

...and abundant legal writings.

Do I think Dr. Ford's testimony was important? Hell yes.

But much more recently in time he had power over another young girl in his capacity as a federal judge, and he tried his damndest to make her carry an unwanted pregnancy to term. Because he could. Because she was brown and undocumented and in detention and powerless.

I would really, really have liked to know about that.

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We went down a rabbit hole & never demanded an explanation of Kav's judicial decisions... (Original Post) Hekate Oct 2018 OP
Most of them were withheld and quite a bit of his notes conveniently lost ... Snake Plissken Oct 2018 #1
At least he had to suffer a little while before taking on his god-given birthright on the SCOTUS... Hekate Oct 2018 #2
He also perjured himself last Thursday Snake Plissken Oct 2018 #7
The media and Dems were played. Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #3
"Followed the shiny object of sex" ual assault. demmiblue Oct 2018 #5
that was in no way minimizing it. Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #13
Perfectly stated! We got played. Said it then..say Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #6
Did you watch the hearings? This was all covered. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #4
The Democrats on this committee had no Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #8
You may be a Dem through and through but you don't seem to know much about how the EffieBlack Oct 2018 #11
Omg Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #12
Can you answer my question? EffieBlack Oct 2018 #14
Your condescending and always prosecutorial Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #17
There was nothing Democrats could have done to stop Kavanaugh. Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #18
That's the spirit! Republicans and trump perpetrated Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #19
In other words, you cannot answer my question EffieBlack Oct 2018 #20
Have explained it to you so many times. Please block me Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #23
Perfectly stated Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 #9
That happens each and every time. It should be clear by now that gop americans don't give 2 shits ecstatic Oct 2018 #10
You must not have been paying attention EffieBlack Oct 2018 #15
Okay. If I must, I plead guilty to being absolutely overwhelmed by the last days... Hekate Oct 2018 #16
I agree Meowmee Oct 2018 #21
nothing would have worked... lame54 Oct 2018 #22

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
1. Most of them were withheld and quite a bit of his notes conveniently lost ...
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:46 PM
Oct 2018

But he did have a calendar from 1982.

I don't understand why the media didn't press the issue of the 100,000 pages the White House hide from the Senate.

Up until we went down this rabbit hole, Kavanaugh did not even answer a single question directly, he was expecting to be handed the nomination without being accountable to anyone and would have but, thankful Dr. Ford came forward and at least got us this far.

Hekate

(90,753 posts)
2. At least he had to suffer a little while before taking on his god-given birthright on the SCOTUS...
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:51 PM
Oct 2018

How dare we peasants and women dispute that this office is his by right.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
7. He also perjured himself last Thursday
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:06 PM
Oct 2018

so there is absolutely no reason the House should not begin to conduct a Benghazi-esque investigation into his blatant perjury as soon as they are sworn in at noon on January 3rd and and send it to a grand jury for indictment.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
3. The media and Dems were played.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:52 PM
Oct 2018

Followed the shiny object of sex, passing over the gambling debts, the financial irregularities, the Kennedy son's connection to Deutsche Bank, yada yada yada.

And then played by Flake and his "investigation" to give cover to Republican votes.

DiFi and her pathetic "Gentleman's agreement" with Grassley for an investigation without setting any parameters -- totally trusting in good faith of Republicans.

When will Dems realize that comity is not a goal but a trap when dealing with smashmouth partisans who will do anything to impose their sharia-like laws on America?

demmiblue

(36,873 posts)
5. "Followed the shiny object of sex" ual assault.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:57 PM
Oct 2018

You could at least not minimize it while making your argument.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
13. that was in no way minimizing it.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:44 PM
Oct 2018

And as a survivor myself, I fail to see how you overlook that likelihood.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
6. Perfectly stated! We got played. Said it then..say
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:59 PM
Oct 2018

it again. Instead of being leery of their "one week investigation"...duh "one week" would have tipped most people off....they jumped with "Sure!". We actually might have been better off without it. Along with stressing every single moment about what you mentioned and that Dr Ford passed a lie detector test, did Kavenaugh?

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
4. Did you watch the hearings? This was all covered.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:56 PM
Oct 2018

Last edited Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:27 PM - Edit history (1)

The problem was the Dems weren’t given much to ask questions and the witnesses weren’t given much time to testify. But the Democrats did their best to cover in-depth his judicial record and also put out plenty about it in writing.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
8. The Democrats on this committee had no
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:06 PM
Oct 2018

Political and media savvy and no plan except to whine. For Christ's sake we are dealing with the devil incarnate!!!

I am a Democrat to the absolute core of my being. My grandparents and parents instilled it in me. But for the sake of our party....please ...we need new blood !!!!!!!

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
11. You may be a Dem through and through but you don't seem to know much about how the
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:29 PM
Oct 2018

Committee works but also seem to believe you know better than the Democrats on the committee what to do and how to do it.

What exactly do you think the Democrats should have done that they didn’t do but that would have ensured that Kavanaugh would not be confirmed?

Please be specific.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
14. Can you answer my question?
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:55 PM
Oct 2018

What exactly could the Comittee Democrats have done that they didn’t do that would have stopped Kavanaugh?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
19. That's the spirit! Republicans and trump perpetrated
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:51 AM
Oct 2018

One of the biggest scams ever, in my view, and we had and have no orchestrated strategy to expose, then bad on us. My view

ecstatic

(32,720 posts)
10. That happens each and every time. It should be clear by now that gop americans don't give 2 shits
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:24 PM
Oct 2018

about sexual predators like trump & kav. Of course, we should talk about it regardless BUT we also have to make sure to cover other issues as well.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
15. You must not have been paying attention
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:57 PM
Oct 2018

There were several days of hearings that covered those other issues. The sexual abuse allegations came up after that hearing was over and the hearing that was held thereafter was specifically limited to those allegations, and no other issues could be covered.

Hekate

(90,753 posts)
16. Okay. If I must, I plead guilty to being absolutely overwhelmed by the last days...
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 01:10 AM
Oct 2018

Everything else was wiped away in my memory, and in any case I was trying to save what's left of my sanity by not watching all of it.

So should I change my header to "We were dragged down a rabbit hole"? And did I need to acknowledge that the Repubs were so hell-bent on making sure Kav was given his place on the Court that he had been entitled to from birth, that they were not going to allow the most fundamental questions by the Dems? Because I am sure I said that or agreed to it someplace else, but if it needs to be said again in this OP, by all means.

My intent was to share what came to me in the past couple of days: Rabbit hole. Alice in Wonderland. Through the Looking Glass. wtf.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
21. I agree
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 03:18 PM
Oct 2018

Even though he was questioned about some of the other major issues, even if it was blocked by r’s as much as possible in the hearing and he also refused to answer questions as I recall and lied, someone should have been digging for answers, such as how was 200,000 was debt suddenly paid off and what was the real cause of it. I dont know if it would have stopped his confirmation because they have all been bought off obviously, but this should still all be exposed.

lame54

(35,302 posts)
22. nothing would have worked...
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 03:26 PM
Oct 2018

their was no better strategy that we didn't use that would have gotten a different result

Kav was getting on no matter what

at least now he is exposed

oh, and also - he likes beer

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