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The enemy wants you to feel hopeless (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 OP
Kick. Rec. GoCubsGo Oct 2018 #1
K&R! Anon-C Oct 2018 #2
Sigh Throck Oct 2018 #3
NOVEMBER! jimlup Oct 2018 #4
A storm is coming FakeNoose Oct 2018 #37
Hell Yes bdamomma Oct 2018 #62
I'm not giving up. Dulcinea Oct 2018 #64
Hell Yes..... Not hopeless, just very pissed off and motivated. groundloop Oct 2018 #73
I know. They keep posting about it. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2018 #5
How does that go? Remember, remember, the 6th of November? kydo Oct 2018 #6
Stay Angry! Stay Energized! Salviati Oct 2018 #7
That's why they engineer razor-thin victories bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #8
K&R emulatorloo Oct 2018 #9
I'm more pissed off than ever! SunSeeker Oct 2018 #10
Me too!!! bdamomma Oct 2018 #63
I am. For the 1 in 3 women who are sexually assaulted in America. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #70
Yawn Sherman A1 Oct 2018 #11
The enemy loves your apathy too. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2018 #13
Yawn Sherman A1 Oct 2018 #19
"Be Kind; Everyone You Meet is Fighting a Great Battle." Philo of Alexandria DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #25
the "Whatever Brigade" doesn't help List left Oct 2018 #14
Well then Sherman A1 Oct 2018 #20
""Be Kind; Everyone You Meet is Fighting a Great Battle." Philo of Alexandria (REDUX) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #26
Oh My we really like that sig line don't we Sherman A1 Oct 2018 #58
Are you a old troll? Oppaloopa Oct 2018 #72
No, Sherman A1 Oct 2018 #75
Trump appreciates your support. John Fante Oct 2018 #77
""Be Kind; Everyone You Meet is Fighting a Great Battle." Philo of Alexandria (REDUX) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #27
And your point is? Sherman A1 Oct 2018 #56
I guess your 'Yawn' is explained by the company you keep... revmclaren Oct 2018 #55
Yes I post on both boards Sherman A1 Oct 2018 #57
Yawn..... revmclaren Oct 2018 #59
Yawn Sherman A1 Oct 2018 #60
Faux-prog detected. John Fante Oct 2018 #78
Great Sherman A1 Oct 2018 #79
Best short post I've ever seen on DU! Kudos. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2018 #12
Thank you, sir. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #29
Hell yes... peequod Oct 2018 #15
It's working. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #16
I just sent Heidi Heitkamp $25 Greybnk48 Oct 2018 #17
I sent her some money too. demgrrrll Oct 2018 #18
Lol! Hell yes. I'm pissed too! peequod Oct 2018 #24
Repubs should feel hopeless. The Kavanaugh confirmation should have been a slam dunk. It wasn't. Kaleva Oct 2018 #21
+1 MontanaMama Oct 2018 #34
I don't fucking feel hopeless ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #22
Not only that DemocratSinceBirth, the enemy believes they have the right... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #23
Long fight ahead of me vercetti2021 Oct 2018 #28
Stay strong...you have a long fight ahead... BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #32
Too long of a fight. It'll be exhausting vercetti2021 Oct 2018 #40
I became a semi activist when I was 17...It is exhausting. BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #46
Doesn't mix well with my depression vercetti2021 Oct 2018 #47
I was wondering when someone would conduct an accurate study about that. BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #49
Yeah the world is going to need us vercetti2021 Oct 2018 #51
Alot of bdamomma Oct 2018 #33
What I hate about it vercetti2021 Oct 2018 #41
I know each bdamomma Oct 2018 #65
There's a lot more distractions for young people today. Ligyron Oct 2018 #68
Good point, I hadn't thought of that. There's so much appalachiablue Oct 2018 #76
Longtime DU viewer, just joined to rec this thread PoliWrangler Oct 2018 #30
Welcome, PoliWrangler! peequod Oct 2018 #31
I'm honored. Please post more. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #38
I'm not hopeless, I'm pissed off! Initech Oct 2018 #35
Damn Skippy denbot Oct 2018 #36
i will go to my grave gay texan Oct 2018 #39
+1. If you don't think this moment, and the violation of the alert, etc. isn't 'own the Libs' psyop, FreepFryer Oct 2018 #42
Nope, if I give in, they win & I can't allow that. I have daughters & grandchildren... WePurrsevere Oct 2018 #43
VOTE!!!! IluvPitties Oct 2018 #44
Ignore the narratives watoos Oct 2018 #45
They are truly the enemy. kairos12 Oct 2018 #48
Domestic enemies bdamomma Oct 2018 #66
That's just how stupid these republican POS are. They haven't a clue about us and how fed up we ar SammyWinstonJack Oct 2018 #50
yes, and a few here seem more than willing to want to encourage that hopelessness unfortunately still_one Oct 2018 #52
And they ain't gonna succeed! ZZenith Oct 2018 #53
David Rothkopf: "We should only lament our future if we lack the will to fight for it . . ." CousinIT Oct 2018 #54
Great post. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #74
they're going to regret it anarch Oct 2018 #61
Ca ira! malthaussen Oct 2018 #67
Vote Em Out! True Blue American Oct 2018 #69
There are trolls on DU who want us to feel hopeless IronLionZion Oct 2018 #71

Dulcinea

(6,652 posts)
64. I'm not giving up.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:55 AM
Oct 2018

I, for one, will continue to help register voters (till Tuesday, anyway) & do as much GOTV as I can to make sure everyone participates in the midterms. I've been volunteering with various organizations in my area, & people are excited & engaged. Take advantage of that!

kydo

(2,679 posts)
6. How does that go? Remember, remember, the 6th of November?
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 09:04 PM
Oct 2018

Yeah, yeah, the rhyme is really the 5th. But that was long time ago in a movie. Let's do this for real but on the 6th. No masks. In the ballot box.

SunSeeker

(51,598 posts)
70. I am. For the 1 in 3 women who are sexually assaulted in America.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:40 PM
Oct 2018

And to protest the brazen elevation of a lying misogynist to the Supreme Court, despite numerous credible accusations of sexual assault against him.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
58. Oh My we really like that sig line don't we
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:29 AM
Oct 2018

This is the 3rd repost of it.

I attempt to be kind, but that does not mean that one can not have differing opinions and I find your calling others the Enemy to be especially unkind and disrespectful.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
57. Yes I post on both boards
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:27 AM
Oct 2018

is that some type of crime? I am also on Facebook does that count against me?

peequod

(189 posts)
15. Hell yes...
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 09:55 PM
Oct 2018

...and f*ck 'em! This is war. I say support our own Heidi Heitkamp, in deep-red North Dakota, for her courageous vote against Rapey O'Kavanaugh. Please don't leave her twisting in the North Dakota wind, she's our gal, we need women in the Senate. I've donated to her, to Beto, and many others. Let's inundate the halls of Congress with righteous women Dems and their allies and stamp out the Republican grapes of wrath!

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
17. I just sent Heidi Heitkamp $25
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 09:58 PM
Oct 2018

About 5 minutes ago. Two days ago I sent Tony Evers $100 to help him beat the cross-eyed, rat faced pimple on the ass of Wisconsin, Scott Walker.

I have rage-driven a car, rage-cleaned my house, and rage-called politicians. But rage-donating is new for me and I like it (as long as I can buy groceries)!

Not hopeless. It is what it is and we have to deal with it, not fold up.

peequod

(189 posts)
24. Lol! Hell yes. I'm pissed too!
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:12 PM
Oct 2018

I annihilated my measly 30 minute spinning workout (sans caffiene, thank you). I realized that I have to put my gd money where my mouth is. We have a woman senator floundering in North Dakota, we need to flippin' help her! I donated just now, and thanks for the tip about Tony Evers. Scott Walker's face makes my skin crawl

Kaleva

(36,318 posts)
21. Repubs should feel hopeless. The Kavanaugh confirmation should have been a slam dunk. It wasn't.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:02 PM
Oct 2018

The Repubs have been fighting hard to win special elections in areas where Trump won by wide margins in 2016. And even there, they've lost a few. Polls are indicating that the election this fall will give Dems control of the House and there's an outside chance we may win the Senate too.

ismnotwasm

(41,998 posts)
22. I don't fucking feel hopeless
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:05 PM
Oct 2018

I’m Fucking pissed off, I’ve been fucking pissed off. I’m pissed off at the same people. Did anybody actually expect Republicans to do the decent thing? I sure in the fuck didn’t. I’m not disappointed because I had realistic expectations.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
23. Not only that DemocratSinceBirth, the enemy believes they have the right...
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:10 PM
Oct 2018

to dominate us due to their wealth. More Americans need to be conscious of this fallacy, a huge cancer on the notion of fair capitalism and governance.

Overcoming that mountain and far too many Americans buying into it is our big challenge and at least for now, we can only do it by swamping them with votes.

..............

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
28. Long fight ahead of me
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:18 PM
Oct 2018

Being 28. We'll see where this goes. But goddammit they unleashed unholy fire that won't be tamed

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
40. Too long of a fight. It'll be exhausting
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:34 PM
Oct 2018

But our future is at stake. Will do whatever it takes to save us

BigmanPigman

(51,615 posts)
46. I became a semi activist when I was 17...It is exhausting.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:37 PM
Oct 2018

You just need to take care of yourself mentally, physically and emotionally to stay strong for the long haul. During my first protest in 1979 I would never have been able to predict that I would be at if in various forms for most of my life. I think when I turned 18 in 1980 and my first vote cast was for Carter I was hopeful. Then Reagan's admin has been the GOP mold for all of the candidates to follow since then. That sucks...stagnant wages and GOP BS greed, hypocrisy and cheating getting worse and worse. Maybe it has hit rock bottom (I can't imagine anything worse than having all 3 branches in the hands of the minority party). I am glad younger Dems like you will carry the torch for someone like me. THANK YOU!!! I will be eternally grateful for your courage and spirit! Resistance is patriotism!

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
47. Doesn't mix well with my depression
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:42 PM
Oct 2018

Lately it's been getting worse due to politics. I've been active the moment I voted for Obama in 2008. But once the tea party shit started, it didn't stop and it keeps going and going. My mental strain has been taking hits and now its just bad. I can see why suicide rates have skyrocketed over the years.

BigmanPigman

(51,615 posts)
49. I was wondering when someone would conduct an accurate study about that.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:57 PM
Oct 2018

Suicides are high when they are also linked with easy access to guns and opioids. There is an increase in senior suicides since they can't afford their health care and meds and are not making it financially. When I get depressed and frustrated I call a few reps, donate to Dem causes, go to a protest or help plan for one. It does help redirect my anger into doing something positive and useful. Climate change is going to need young fighters like you!

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
51. Yeah the world is going to need us
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:08 AM
Oct 2018

I do what I can, but it's a struggle and has been since I was 17. I survived two suicide attempts so far. Guess it isn't my time to go since I'm still here. I do what I can and that's all I can do. The future isn't going to be easy. For any of us.

bdamomma

(63,913 posts)
33. Alot of
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:24 PM
Oct 2018

Young people your age will not have the liberties we had. We all need to vote and make them hear our voices this will not be forgotten.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
41. What I hate about it
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:37 PM
Oct 2018

We don't and probably never will have the same opportunities y'all had. And then we are called lazy, stupid and ignorant...I hate that. Wasn't our fault our future got ruined. It's just the wonder if my generation cares enough to fight for it. That's what worries me.

bdamomma

(63,913 posts)
65. I know each
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:06 AM
Oct 2018

generation tries to make it better for the next generation. My father and all of his brothers fought in WWII I'm glad they are not here to see this stripping and deterioration of our ideals.

Do not doubt your generation they will fight back. A person can only take so much.

I know my children ages 22 and 25, will be the ones to try to make things right again. Us of this generation will try our best to make our voices heard and so far a number of voices were loud in DC and in other parts of the country, but those white ole privileged rich men did not, karma is a bitch you know.

Ligyron

(7,637 posts)
68. There's a lot more distractions for young people today.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:07 PM
Oct 2018

All we really had were 3 networks that closed at midnight and some great music.

Now there's hundreds of stations going 24 hours a day social media, video games, etc.

appalachiablue

(41,159 posts)
76. Good point, I hadn't thought of that. There's so much
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:24 PM
Oct 2018

in the way of electronic news, stimulation and distraction now.

peequod

(189 posts)
31. Welcome, PoliWrangler!
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:24 PM
Oct 2018

I'm pretty new to posting too. Jump in, the water's fine. It's a fine time to vent for sure

gay texan

(2,464 posts)
39. i will go to my grave
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:32 PM
Oct 2018

before i feel hopeless. Fuck them, I've developed the attitude of nothing left to lose. If i lose everything so that this is set right for future generations, so be it.

FUCK IT!

This is going to be corrected if it's the last thing i do....

They haven't the idea of the monster they have just kicked

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
42. +1. If you don't think this moment, and the violation of the alert, etc. isn't 'own the Libs' psyop,
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:42 PM
Oct 2018

You haven't been paying attention.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
43. Nope, if I give in, they win & I can't allow that. I have daughters & grandchildren...
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:53 PM
Oct 2018

to fight for and alongside & they, and every other living being on this planet, deserves a hell of a lot better a world than what the RepubliCONs and their big corp and foreign owners have planned.

It's not going to be easy but they WILL lose if we keep voting and it we keep fighting with facts and the truth as our primary weapons.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
45. Ignore the narratives
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:14 PM
Oct 2018

that come from the corporate media. Ignore the outlier polls, like the one that showed Heitkamp down by 10 points, that was bs designed to demoralize us. Russian trolls are all over social media, don't fall for their divisiveness. United we stand, divided we fall. A freaking blue wave is coming, Democratic committees are going to investigate the living shit out of the traitorous Republicans, the time for civility is over.

Vote the bastards out.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
50. That's just how stupid these republican POS are. They haven't a clue about us and how fed up we ar
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:04 AM
Oct 2018

They're about to find out.

ZZenith

(4,125 posts)
53. And they ain't gonna succeed!
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 01:20 AM
Oct 2018

Just like every other tin-pot dictator before him, he’s gonna die in ignominy and all of his acolytes will meet the wrath of the public finally unleashed in all its righteous fury.

Might be months, might be years, but woe be to the wicked when they finally get there come-uppance.

CousinIT

(9,251 posts)
54. David Rothkopf: "We should only lament our future if we lack the will to fight for it . . ."
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 01:29 AM
Oct 2018


UNROLLED thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1048321776344846337.html

What do you do when your country breaks your heart? When not once but repeatedly it fails to live up to the aspirations of even those citizens with the most modest of aspirations for it? When the ideals of its founders are left to yellow and be forgotten in archives and museums?

What do you do when the political discussion is commandeered not by those w/merely a different ideology but by people who are fundamentally corrupt, evil and valueless. They drape themselves in the flag and profess devotion to their God and demean both every time their lips move.

What do you do when their champions in the media are a brigade of third and fourth-rate intellects, sneering, hateful, sanctimonious arsonists of journalism, enemies of truth, defenders of the indefensible?

What do you do when reason is so often confounded and decency so regularly kicked aside? What do you do when liars and thieves and abusers are lifted up and public service ceases to be even the nominal objective of public servants?

What do you when those who seek power do so only to enrich themselves and their cronies and then to tear down the institutions on which this society like any other depends upon to survive, when they attack the system of justice, the rule of law and basic ethical standards?

What do you do when they turn against those they are supposed to serve--women, people of color, immigrants who have come to our country to help build as has been done for generations before ours, the LGBTQ community, and even their own "base" that they ruthlessly exploit?

With each of their victories we drift further from who we are supposed to be, worse still from who we might become. And it is heartbreaking. Shattering. Demoralizing. Over time, the unthinkable becomes commonplace and the unacceptable seems to demand to be accepted.

What do you do then? Curl up in a ball? Weep? Lament it to your friends? Tune it out? Shake your fist? Give up? Or do you recognize that moments like these are when the character of a democracy is tested? Do you realize that it moments like these that make rebirth possible?

At the beginning of this country we faced worse. When slavery divided this country we faced worse. When world wars threatened this country we faced worse. When depression rocked our economy we faced worse. The enemies today are bad, as evil and corrupt as we've ever seen.

But they are not so bad that we cannot be reborn of this crisis as we have been so often before. he least among us is better than them. They remind us of that daily. The secret is in seeing their depredations as inspirations, today's defeats as the start of tomorrow's victories.

We should only lament our future if we lack the will to fight for it. I've found this week to be one of the worst in my memory. I have been heartbroken. But I also recognize this week's defeat as a call to action. There is an election in just a month.

We must remember their fears of the results of that election--that the American people will make themselves heard--is what made them rush for with this bleak charade of a Supreme Court nomination battle. They know we can win. They expect us to win.

And now we must do what we have to to win. Use how bad this moment feels. Use how angry you are. Use it to mobilize friends and family, to become the activist you never were, to be a donor, to be an advocate, to turn out the vote.

The final verdict on how the Kavanaugh vote will be seen will not be in the newspapers this weekend or in how the White House spins it. It will come on the night of November 6th when we see whether it mobilized America to turn the tide against these enemies among us.

And it will come thereafter as Democrats, now again empowered, have the opportunity to show what real leadership is, what an appreciation for American ideals can bring when it is embraced by our leaders, what the rule of law should mean, the role decency can play in our lives.

Today is the first day of the victory for America that was inspired by the abuses of the Kavanaugh nominating process, of a president who has betrayed the country, of children in cages, of the tragedy of Puerto Rico, of humiliation abroad, and of rampant corruption everywhere.

That's what happened today. It won't be reported in the news. But I believe it. I believe it will be seen as a turning point. I believe this is a moment for great hope. But if that is to be true, it is also a moment for resolve and action. Now. Starting right now.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
61. they're going to regret it
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:43 AM
Oct 2018

I don't think these fuckers understand what they're really up against.

Like all those smug assholes who think it's funny when liberals get all upset...like, "ha ha, what's wrong snowflake, are you triggered". Sort of like entitled frat boys laughing and high-fiving while they terrorize some poor young woman whom they've trapped in a bedroom at a party....

Well you know what? Yes, yes I am...and pulling that trigger has filled me with a terrible resolve and determination to do everything possible to fight their fascist agenda.

Hopeless? No. More like, not going to pull any punches anymore.

IronLionZion

(45,474 posts)
71. There are trolls on DU who want us to feel hopeless
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:53 PM
Oct 2018

some of them might be liberals who desperately need anti-depressants, but many are trolls.

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