Avenatti: Yet another accuser has come forward. Prepared to meet with the FBI...

[triron]

Link to tweet

(This is same one I posted last night btw).

[Fred Sanders]

1. Added Quaaludes to the beer did you, you Party Animal?

At least there should be a reconvening of Judiciary for some "how much did you love Quaaludes...and beer?" questions of Brett?

[triron]

2. knr

[Alhena]

3. Is it just me or is the media ignoring this?

Haven't seen any mention of it online- I don't watch tv.

[getagrip_already]

5. yup - so yesterday......

they would much rather talk about the last trump tweet or how republican woman are still with him.

[turbinetree]

4. So inquiring minds want to know where did they get these illegal drugs to do this to woman

from the medicine cabinet, from the street...............................and where is the media on this................

[pnwmom]

6. It was still a prescription drug in 1982.

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33428487

"Doctors were essentially giving them out like candy," says Justin Gass, author of a book about the drug. "It was very easy to obtain Quaaludes in the mid-late 1970s and early 1980s."

People could buy them in semi-legal "stress clinics" without needing to visit a GP. They were pseudo-medical centres that would hand out the maximum legal prescription. These tactics would often be the clinics' eventual downfall, says David Herzberg, professor of history at the University at Buffalo.

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Quaalude had a novelty but also a distinct selling point. "It got the reputation of relaxing people so that they can have freer sex," Herzberg says, which made them catch on across college campuses. Bay City Rollers lead singer Les McKeown has said he was raped by another man at the height of their fame after being given Quaaludes.

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Regulators eventually stepped in. By 1984, the drug was listed as Schedule I in the US and a Class B drug in the UK, which makes its production and distribution illegal altogether

[getagrip_already]

8. they were completely removed from theus market in 1982...

And they weren't being given out like candy in the 80's. The feds were watching doctors who prescribed them.

In the 70's sure, but by 1981 they were hard to get legally.

His were likely street drugs.

[OhNo-Really]

11. Stupidly tried one in 1978. Fully awake, couldn't move a muscle, like paralyzed.

At least I was told it was a lude or 714s. When It wore off I told my "friend" it was the stupidist pill ever. Maybe my experience is an outlier. Cocaine flooded the market in the 1980s. Odd there is no mention of cocaine in kavs yearbook.

[OhNo-Really]

13. This article will explain lack of parental presence.

His dad was a member of 2 men's only clubs, if I remember correctly. His mom started law school and law career when he was 10. He was an only child. Brett's story sounds like the elite, privileged, emotionally deprived childhood I experienced and observed. Helps explain alcohol abuse. Huge collections of liquor beautifully displayed occupied a place in most homes.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211222691

Look at the pics of Kavs mom. I have know so many moms with that demeanor. She could have been the greatest mom ever, we can't know. It would be interesting to learn the true family history.

[pnwmom]

17. They stopped producing them in 1982. There was still product in the market in the summer of 82. nt

[lillypaddle]

15. I had a prescription

rued the day they took it off the market. I fucking loved them. I'd get my Rx of 30 and my friends and I would have a pretty damn astounding weekend. Maybe they "paralyzed" some people, but the girls & I would go dancing and dance out asses off.

Ahhhh. Those were the days.

[getagrip_already]

7. they weren't being heavily prescribed

in the early 80's, and were withdrawn from the us market completely in 1982. They were considered a controlled substance. It would be a swift prison sentance to be caught with them (but then again, the same goes for weed).

These were likely street drugs. Not that it matters either way.

It's a dirt bag move to give someone any drug without their consent.

[Samspadesnark]

10. That's been one of my ongoing questions.

I also wonder: if he had not been the supplier of drugs and booze, what would his popularity have been then?? Moreover, how did his parents not notice that, for years, he was coming home wiped-out drunk when he was an underage drinker? No way I would not notice that if he were my son or husband. Would be most interesting to put his parents and wife under oath, no?

[sarah FAILIN]

21. Prep school

I understood they live there. That was my impression..

[moriah]

23. When my grandfather died in 1992, we found expired 'Ludes in his medicine cabinet.

If people who "used them medically" (parents) knew they were coming off the market soon, they might have stockpiled.

In Grandpa's case, it was a script he never finished, but never threw away either.

Either way, while sneaking meds from a parent who liked them's cabinet might have been harder (especially if they liked them enough to stockpile), one problem with being a habitual user of a drug like that (just like with Ambien now) is that unless people were very careful, they could forget taking an extra one. If a kid knew this, they could manipulate the parent.

And no offense to children, but they are born manipulators of their environment (as are all humans, children just do it instinctively rather than purposefully). It's a requirement for their survival from birth, and they quickly learn how to get what they need/want. Fortunately evolution made us think they were cute and do anything to stop them crying when small or we'd never have survived as a species.

[ancianita]

9. Beer Man better watch his back from this day forward.

[MontanaMama]

12. The FBI doesn't care

and neither do the pukes. If Bart got arrested for a DUI today I don’t think it would matter.

[getagrip_already]

14. it isn't that the fbi doesn't care.....

It's that this is NOT a criminal investigation. It is a background investigation being conducted by the fbi's security division.

The security division is responsible for vetting people who are being considered for sensitive jobs. It's all they do. They conduct interviews and verify the information provided by the applicant. They do criminal and civil history searches. They look for financial problems in your past.

They only do what the client agencies request. In this case, the wh. All reports will go only to the wh. The wh will decide what to release to the senate. They can even redact information if they choose to.

It's the wh that doesn't care. It's the gop that doesn't care.

If the fbi finds a reason to open a criminal investigation (and they would need to find evidence of a federal crime, and sessions would have to ultimately approve it before one could begin) they conceivably could open one. But that is unlikely because sessions would kill it. He is as bad as graham.

And if trump ever gets to replace rosenstein with a puppet, the muehler probe will go away and it will be left up to the states with no cooperation or evidence from the feds.

But to say the fbi doesn't care isn't accurate. They aren't being allowed to care - or not care. Maybe they wouldn't care, but we just don't know.

[MontanaMama]

22. I get your point

and I agree. However, I don't believe the FBI has clean hands in this either...Kavanaugh is a long time friend and colleague of both Chris Wray and Rod Rosenstein. It has been suggested that we should have demanded their recusals on this case. To quote Matt Miller..."It has become clear that this investigation is a sham and everyone involved needs to answer for their role in that sham and whether they helped perpetuate it." The FBI is part of this sham to be sure.

AND

"It's true that the WH calls the shots in this investigation, but there is a lot the FBI can do to make sure it was complete if they wanted to. For example, a memo to the WH (preserved for posterity) that says the current scope of the investigation will not find the truth.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

*edited to correct broken link

[dawnie51]

16. The woman who won against Cosby....

said she was wide awake, but couldn't make a sound or move a muscle during her rape. I CANNOT imagine the horror of this. And this wasn't the seventies or eighties. So obviously men who aspire to such acts can get the drugs they need to use.

[triron]

19. Cosby got prison. Kavanaugh likely gets lifetime appt on SCOTUS. Slight disparity there.

[Ilsa]

18. We need some men to come forward and attest to what they saw.

I don't think Miss Pittypat and Yurtle the turtle will listen to any more women, but they might listen to a "macho man" willing to be the great protector of privileged white girls.

Yeah, I know. It's really sad that this might be what it takes.

[triron]

20. 'Miss Pittypat' ?

[SoCalDem]

24. Graham

[lindysalsagal]

25. Everyone send it to: https://www.collins.senate.gov/contact

https://www.collins.senate.gov/contact

Here's the link:

Link to tweet

[triron]

26. I tried to send the link but would accept due to "security risk"?

[lindysalsagal]

27. Mine went through. Separate the https with a space.

The interns will know what to do.

[triron]

28. Thanks. That worked.