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AP Fact Check *SHREDS* Romney/Ryan "Questionable, Eye-Popping, Do Not Fit With Reality" Claims
by eXtina
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They call Mitt Romney's claim that the duo will preserve Medicare 'eye-popping' considering that Ryan calls for reworking it from the ground up.
As to the predictable charge that President Obama will take $700 billion out of Medicare, they not only dispute this but say that "you could fill an arena with the facts this statement leaves out". It is shocking to see someone finally calling them out for what they are.
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On Romney's bipartisan record as Governor of MA:
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On Romney/Ryan claims that they have provided specific, 'bold' solutions that don't duck the truth:
On Ryan's claims of President Obama's failures in his first 3 1/2 years in office:
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/12/1119501/-CBS-Fact-Check-SHREDS-Romney-Ryan-Questionable-Eye-Popping-Do-Not-Fit-With-Reality-Claims
by eXtina
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They call Mitt Romney's claim that the duo will preserve Medicare 'eye-popping' considering that Ryan calls for reworking it from the ground up.
Romney vowed the duo would "preserve" Medicare, an eye-popping claim considering Ryan wants to transform the program from the ground up.
As to the predictable charge that President Obama will take $700 billion out of Medicare, they not only dispute this but say that "you could fill an arena with the facts this statement leaves out". It is shocking to see someone finally calling them out for what they are.
ROMNEY: "Unlike the current president, who has cut Medicare funding by $700 billion, we will preserve and protect Medicare and Social Security and keep them there for future generations."
THE FACTS: You could fill an arena with all the details left out in this statement. Ryan's reputation as a fiscal conservative is built on a budget plan that would overhaul the Medicare program and introduce a voucher-like plan that future retirees could use to buy private health insurance. Whether that results in a better or worse situation for Medicare recipients is a matter of debate. But under Ryan's plan, traditional Medicare would no longer be the health insurance mainstay, just one of many competing options.
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On Romney's bipartisan record as Governor of MA:
THE FACTS: For a Massachusetts governor, balancing a budget is a requirement of state law.
Ryan's claim that Romney didn't raise taxes to comply with Massachusetts' yearly balanced budget requirement is also misleading.
And while Romney himself didn't raise income taxes, he benefited from a huge $1.1 billion tax hike passed by Democrats the year before he took office. It was responsible for roughly half of the deficit Romney helped cut in his first year in office.
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On Romney/Ryan claims that they have provided specific, 'bold' solutions that don't duck the truth:
THE FACTS: So far, vital specifics are missing from Romney as he pledges broad cuts in federal spending, but more money for the armed forces, and significant tax cuts. He proposes to cap federal spending at 20 percent of gross domestic product by the end of a first term, an ambitious goal that is not fleshed out with the painful choices that will be necessary for that to happen.
On Ryan's claims of President Obama's failures in his first 3 1/2 years in office:
THE FACTS: Obama succeeded in achieving a stimulus plan, the automakers' bailout, his health care law, new rules in the financial services sector and more. But he had failures, too, a promised immigration overhaul and climate change legislation among them. Ryan's assertion that the Obama agenda "didn't make things better" is primarily a political judgment call. But no one seriously argues that the stimulus plan or the auto bailout made no difference at all. The question is whether such spending was worth the gains that were made.
Obama's $800 billion-plus stimulus, enacted in February 2009, created both public-sector and private-sector jobs, even if not as many as its sponsors had hoped. The director of the Congressional Budget Office, Douglas Elmendorf, estimated that the stimulus saved or created more than 3 million jobs. Princeton University economist Alan Blinder and Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics, estimated that the stimulus, together with the bank bailout started by President George W. Bush and continued by Obama, saved or created more than 10 million jobs. An earlier CBO analysis estimated that stimulus trimmed the unemployment rate by 0.7 to 1.8 percentage points.
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/12/1119501/-CBS-Fact-Check-SHREDS-Romney-Ryan-Questionable-Eye-Popping-Do-Not-Fit-With-Reality-Claims
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AP Fact Check *SHREDS* Romney/Ryan "Questionable, Eye-Popping, Do Not Fit With Reality" Claims (Original Post)
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