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It's the story of the Groping Donald's entire term so far.
"As of last night, everyone was in a good mood," the person said, saying the view was that Dr. Ford's testimony was "good" but Judge Kavanaugh's was "great." As of 10 p.m. Thursday, the person said, "everything was locked and loaded."
Then, shortly before midnight on Thursday, the American Bar Association issued a letter urging the Senate Judiciary Committee to vote on Judge Kavanaugh's nomination only after a "thorough" FBI investigation. After that, the person said, "It kind of fell apart."
The person said there was "enormous anger" at the ABA from the White House counsel's office and other lawyers working on the confirmation process, describing the letter as a pivotal development that prompted strong discomfort in particular from Ms. Murkowski.
Ms. Murkowski said Friday morning before the Senate committee vote that she remained undecided on the nomination.
The White House isn't expected to talk to any other candidates for the Supreme Court nomination next week while the FBI investigation is under way, the person said.
"There's no Plan B here," the person said. Any backup plan, the person said, would not be "viable" given the timing of the midterm elections in early November.
-Rebecca Ballhaus
#WellOiledMachine
edit: original link
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/kavanaugh/card/1538166098
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)This is what happens when you have someone in the WH that does NOT give a fuck for how government is run. There are very solid reasons for the processes that have stood the test of time.
This is one of those times.
iluvtennis
(19,874 posts)dem4decades
(11,304 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)They vetted him for THEIR purposes: will he overturn Roe v Wade, will he not allow an indictment against Trump, will he side w/W.H. against Mueller investigation, will he let Trump fire Sessions & Rosenstein & maybe Mueller, will he rule the ACA is unconstitutional....
I read that the Rubs actually had some sex scandal info the week before, but didn't reveal it to the Dems. I wonder if that's true, and what they knew.
peekaloo
(22,977 posts)If this guy goes down I want to see a montage of all those smiling R Senators kissing Judge Boof's backside during the opening session.
I will also have a very hearty laugh if their hand picked prosecutor turns out to have inadvertently sabotaged (calendar date) their attempts at "fairness".
LiberalFighter
(51,094 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,630 posts)Rosenstein is next.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Republican Congress majority.
fake motherfucking news.
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)As can Mr. Flake.
janx
(24,128 posts)So she does not always go with the national party line. I admire her for that.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)it was ALASKA who gave her the Senate seat, not the GOP.
She won reelection via write in.
janx
(24,128 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Someone can be so wishy washy...and that they have to have an internal and external debate to make a decision. Guess I am more black and white. Maybe it's s good thing for someone to truly represent what their constituents want ? I definitely couldn't do it
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)emulatorloo
(44,186 posts)She owes McConnell nothing.
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)And they didn't think that maybe they should have a plan B. lol
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)The ptb know he's a spoiled rich boy female defiler? Na...lol
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)wcast
(595 posts)I just sent this to a supposed Centrist I work with who blames the Democrats. I told him McConnell warned Trump and it was the Republicans job to vet their people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/07/us/politics/trump-mcconnell-supreme-court.html
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)was still on the short list. I think he knew that he would be trouble.
manor321
(3,344 posts)And huge thank you's to the extremely brave women who have come forward!
Can you even begin to imagine having some asshole rapey guy from your past get nominated to the Supreme Court?!
irisblue
(33,033 posts)meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)I don't know why they insist on polishing this turd. Cut your losses and try another. They could do it before the midterms.
fierywoman
(7,694 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)kacekwl
(7,021 posts)the pukes could nominate Merrick Garland. An actual qualified judge and this nonsense would be finished.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,430 posts)If they put up Garland, I'd damage myself laughing.
torius
(1,652 posts)Liberal wastes of time he'd like to shut down. Problem is, both Kavvie and Graham-kraken boasted about having the ABA's blessing. I think that letter did make a difference and that and the Catholic magazine delivered a huge narcissistic injury to Kava-manbaby!
that idiot Trumpy is very confused as to why a retro pop band from Sweden would be writing such a letter....
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)This is where we are at people.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Hours Supreme Court "practicin'" with #fatnixon
musicblind
(4,484 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Gothmog
(145,567 posts)alwaysinasnit
(5,075 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I'm struck by this gang around Kavanaugh, though, cluelessly pandering to their own delusions over how well Kavanaugh did, after the rest of the nation was already shellshocked from watching his shocking performance.
Have none of them heard the term "judicial temperament"?
These are also people who never thought to come up with believable answers about what the obscenities printed in his yearbook meant. And they honestly think he's outstandingly qualified, apparently too low themselves to be able to recognize people of honor an probity. These are the people who discussed shifting suspicion for attempted rape onto an innocent person, and probably more than just one of them decided to actually do it, publishing name and photo, then forced to (of course!) retract almost immediately.
Of course, these particular people wouldn't be choosing the next nominee, but who do they remind us of? More of the same wherever hard-core conservatives are found in public affairs?
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,430 posts)As I understand it, there will be 30 hours of debate in the Senate before a confirmation vote is taken. Will that be the time for Democratic Senators to speak about all these loose ends? Or are there obscure rules by which McConnell can shut down such discussions?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)30 hours of debate, but did it get dropped under the wrong post perchance?
I'm cautious about this because the Repubs could have changed a rule, but debate in the "gentlemen's" senate has always been loosely controlled compared to tight rules in the house. It's always taken more than a simple majority, likely 60 votes, to shut down senate debate, so we've been using that as the minority party to continue discussion.
Btw, you may remember that Grassley yesterday, after they'd taken the vote on Kavanaugh and were still discussing how an investigation might proceed, all of a sudden banged his gavel in the middle of people talking all over the place and declared adjourned based on a 2-hour rule. Lawrence O'Donnell explained it's an arcane rule that's never used, but Grassley must have been watching the second hand tick off to the point where he could use it to halt this unprecedented situation. That's why Sen. Feinstein was asking in confusion what had been decided, my guess the first time in decades she didn't know.
Wow. More than just high drama, real history. Michael Beschloss and others said they gravely feared that morning that the senate was on the point of failing and becoming a weak arm of the Trump White House, but Flake's and Coons's bipartisan group functioned as the senate was designed to and pulled it back from "the abyss." Graham had been bitter and angry and while recognized to speak actually threatened his Democratic colleagues with how he was going to treat them when he became chairman of the committee, something O'Donnell said has never happened before. Graham has been demonstrating, like Kavanaugh, the astonishing breadth and depth of unfitness for his position. Sen. Coons had to control tears of relief afterward as he spoke of his concerns for the health of this institution.
peggysue2
(10,839 posts)I read of the American Bar Association's reversal last night before going to bed. They reversed as did the Jesuit Review. But with the Bar Association? Most of these pols are lawyers and all that yada, yada about the ABA being the Gold Standard yesterday. I was surprised when I didn't hear more on the ABA withdrawing support this morning.
Now it makes more sense. It did effect a seismic change and had people scrambling--in a good way.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)and that putrid attitude has spilled into the Senate AND the Supreme Court.
Fuck em.
Signed, America.
Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)Pluvious
(4,319 posts)Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)...big time.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)...and had been highly influential in moving Kavanaugh up the Federalist judge list. McGhan also was stage managing Kavanaugh's nomination, acting as point person, even helping to prep Kavanaugh. Safe to say, Kavanaugh is McGhan's guy. I would not be surprised to learn that it was McGhan that put the "get out of jail free" aspect of Kavanaugh as a potential SCOTUS in front of tRump*.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)But clearly Kav demonstrated bias, prejudice, and an uneven temperament unbecoming of a judge
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Donald of Orange and his minions are so incompetent!
shanny
(6,709 posts)stance that tipped the balance. All the others on the list would be just as bad on Roe, labor, SS, etc.--but afaik none of them went so far on presidential immunity.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Exactly! We are no doubt going to get a right wing conservative but it was his stand on Presidential Immunity that made me want to see him go down! Then I watched him and my reasons to oppose him quadrupled.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Blue Owl
(50,506 posts)Anon-C
(3,430 posts)Hekate
(90,827 posts)Pluvious
(4,319 posts)Hekate
(90,827 posts)pecosbob
(7,543 posts)stories describing the WH in disarray. Would that it were so.
Liberal In Texas
(13,576 posts)Plan C: Ram the asshole through.
And spend as much dark money as it takes.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)catchnrelease
(1,945 posts)Kavanaugh is supposed to believe that a sitting president is immune from criminal process. In other words he could potentially protect Trump from being prosecuted by Mueller. Trump is basically trying to select the judge that could possibly hear his case in the future. From what bits I've read, this is based on K's writings in the past.
So, a different nominee might be horribly conservative, but not willing to say that a president has immunity. That's a theory as to why they are not giving up on K and just going with another person on the list.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)So willing? More to this story.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,430 posts)GOP has to please everyone in their coalition of extremists or they can't win against the liberal majority. Kavanaugh is their bait and promise for the evangelicals, supremacists, and possibly the toxic billionaire's club.
The Fox Cult of Disinformation will sell him to the rest.
maryallen
(2,172 posts)The Bush/Cheney gang are interested in concealing some of their questionable decisions, such as initial plans to go into Afghanistan, Iraq; approval of torture,etc. Kavanaugh was one of their in-house lawyers. He worked in the Whitehouse where his wife was W's secretary.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)Bush going to prison if it should be revealed.
catchnrelease
(1,945 posts)Maybe this has something to do with it also?
Jessie Zimmerman
? @kerismom
Sep 28
Replying to @MattBors
One of the first cases the Supreme Court has in October has to do with preventing Mueller from handing off NRA campaign Russian $ cases to state courts. Those who accepted NRA $ are the ones pushing so hard for this nomination.
treestar
(82,383 posts)might not go that far. But then Donald of Orange never thinks things through and probably thinks he can threaten the justices.
tblue37
(65,488 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,295 posts)They're not focused on the strength of the candidate, or rule of law, or jurisprudence and the U.S. Constitution. They're focused on being dominant in all things political, on being so brilliant that they never make mistakes, on their ideology.
Extraordinary move by the ABA. The ability to use one's brain and adapt to changing conditions. Unlike the Trump White House.
Renew Deal
(81,873 posts)The seat is filled. There is no rush. They should welcome an investigation. It might clear their guy.
czarjak
(11,296 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,873 posts)as fake news yet?
Even FOX was straying from Trump in reporting Dr Fords testimony.
No wonder Trump doesnt trust the news - they report what happens and that aint good for him.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)trying to keep it in session because they think it will hurt the Democrats by forcing them to attend and give up campaign time.
Roadside Attraction
(238 posts)No Plan B? How can that be?
Trump hires only the best and the best would have several fallback positions prepared, briefed, and ready to roll.
Trump is a successful businessman, probably the most successful in the entire history of business. I can't believe he didn't have an alternative plan.
On top of that, Trump has a "very, very large brain."
How can it be he and his White House are that incompetent?
I'm shocked!! Shocked, I tell you.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,049 posts)Because Charles Manson is dead.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)When you dont believe in birth control the unexpected can happen.
dalton99a
(81,590 posts)peekaloo
(22,977 posts)Making it nearly impossible for the Democrats to mount a credible opposition then BOOM!
May this be a very productive week for the FBI investigators.
Crunchy Frog
(26,646 posts)peggysue2
(10,839 posts)The WH has/had a long list of Federalist Society and Heritage Foundation candidates. Kavanaugh was added late to the list and never properly vetted because . . .
Well, that's the gazillion $ question, isn't it?
Kavanaugh brought something the other candidates did not bring. Perhaps total allegiance to the WH or his expansive WH powers philosophy or his compromised background, etc., etc., etc.
Something has been going on behind the scenes that we cannot see, something that explains why this particular candidate needed to be jammed through come Hell or high water. Any other of the candidates would change the composition of SCOTUS. But Kavanaugh? With all this baggage? Doesn't make sense even on the surface.
Something is very rotten in Denmark.