Ryan & Romney: We’re Out To Save Medicare

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Ryan & Romney: We’re Out To Save Medicare

In their first joint interview, airing Sunday on 60 Minutes, the freshly-minted Republican presidential ticket push back on Democratic claims that they are out to destroy the social safety net – and take pains to reassure seniors they’re not interested in touching their benefits.

A preview from CBS News, quoting Mitt Romney:

“What Paul Ryan and I have talked about is saving Medicare, is providing people greater choice in Medicare, making sure it’s there for current seniors. No changes, by the way, for current seniors, or those nearing retirement. But looking for young people down the road and saying, “We’re going to give you a bigger choice.” In America, the nature of this country has been giving people more freedom, more choices. That’s how we make Medicare work down the road.”

Paul Ryan’s GOP budget plan would change Medicare into a voucher system for those 55 years of age and younger, a structure Democrats have derided as fundamentally altering the Medicare guarantee. Video:

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/ryan-romney-were-out-to-save-medicare

Paul Ryan: Talk Of Bain Capital Is A Distraction

Paul Ryan dismissed the attacks on Mitt Romney’s record at Bain Capital from the Obama campaign in a joint interview Sunday night. Ryan said Presidend Obama has “a terrible record,” so he is “trying to run on distractions” like Bain.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/paul-ryan-talk-of-bain-capital-is-distraction

I see the interview responses were a series of lies.

[AtomicKitten]

1. I see he didn't mention their plan entails privatizing Medicare.

Did Ryan mention where Rmoney's taxes are?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

2. Slimy liars

Sure they want to get rid of Medicare. They just want to take the sting out of it first so it won't be painful.

If voters knew about their real plans they would be up in arms.

[Turbineguy]

3. His method:

Cut off a bunch of people, they die. Before Ryan turns 65 restart Medicare so he has it.

[Kalidurga]

4. Every time they say they want to save medicare it reminds me of this...

We had to destroy the village to save it. I really can't hear anything beyond that.

[Confusious]

5. "save" is the subjective word

To most people, that would mean "destroy."

[Lifelong Protester]

6. Anytime the words "choice" and "freedom"

are in one sentence together, and uttered by a GOPer, it means trouble for anyone relying on that which they say they are going to give you more "choice" over...to save your 'freedom' or as they like to say, 'freedoms'....

[cali]

7. and Mitt says that they're going to cut middle class taxes too!

[freshwest]

8. Privatization is called Economic Apartheid. Of those millions who can't afford to pay the difference

In supplementals to go with the vouchers, they have nothing for them. They say they have a choice, but the poor do not have the economic power to choose.

For those who can't afford more than Basic Medicare, and Yes, Alice, there are millions, they will not get medical care, but it will be called their choice.

The price of their freedom, as Ron Paul said when asked about the man who died when he did not 'choose' to buy health insurance. The example in the debate as alway from the lapdog media, was that the man chose to be uninsured and got ill and died. Do we know the real reason?

And the GOP Tea Party crowd cheered that there was no choice for him then and he died, just as they cheer when the poor and disabled die. And where has Ryan focused the cuts in his budget other than the poor and disabled?

He's laid the cuts on the backs of those who don't meet the age (or work or connection to someone who has worked) standards of Medicare, those on Medicaid. They have villified the poor, both young and old, cheapening what is necessary to live 'entitlements' with a sneer, and with their army of paid shills.

Rush has called Social Security a welfare program, and we know what the GOP thinks of those reduced to welfare.

We are having the debate in this country that Obama said we need to have, and the lines are drawn clearly, but only one side will be heard on mainstream media. The bought and paid for media, mainly Koch owned, and they represent the have's.

The have not's have only a few advocates, of which Obama is the chief one.

It falls to us to make sure that the actions of Romney in creating poverty, the actions of Ryan in make the lives impoverished through no fault of their own, bitter and deadly. This is what 2012 is about.

Not about the budget deficit. If it was abour the deficit and about the budget on the side of the GOP, they would have raised taxes on the have's, not punished the have not's.

Make no mistake, this is a distraction from what they are doing to us. While these circuses are being played out by the have's, they are stealing the land beneath our feet. Literally.

Is not the ramrodding of fracking, the privatization of water, parks, education and more into healthcare, enough to wake the American people up to resist the GOP, the party of oppressive plutocrats, not even allowing us any voice in our lives whatsoever by taking our votes, and refusing to allow us to talk to our representatives?

What we are deciding here this year is whether we still believe there should even be an America, period. Because when all is reduced to digits on a balance sheet, they think this land really belongs to them, and we're just squatters.

[progressivebydesign]

9. Oh cool! I"m 52 and they say I'm "young people?" Awesome. LIARS. n/t

[Ruby the Liberal]

10. Sidebar - but is Ryan releasing his taxes (or did they not go there)?

[OffWithTheirHeads]

11. They are for smaller class size too. For the middle class.

[rocktivity]

12. I wouldn't belive what these two were telling me

even if they told me that my DU screen name is Rocktivity.


rocktivity

[Enrique]

13. photo of them coming up with that line

[madinmaryland]

14. Pardon me, while I...

[cantbeserious]

15. Notice The Narrative Has Shifted From Defense To Offense - Bain And Taxes Will Disappear

This is the strategy to befuddle low information voters with BS that Rmoney and Ryan appear to be the better choice.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

19. Need to hammer the GOP on Medicare

[enough]

16. This will work for a lot of people.

I've been hearing people in the grocery store, gym, etc. saying Obama is taking away their medicare for at least two years now. People will believe this.

I think we tend to underestimate the power of propaganda. These people cannot be dismissed just because they are lying.

[n2doc]

17. So....If I'm to be given a choice..Can I Choose The Same Medicare that Oldsters get?

Thought not. You are given a choice between nothing and horribly inadequate failure.

[undeterred]

18. Fox: I'm here to save the Hen House.

[steve2470]

21. +1000000000000000 well said nt

[Tanuki]

20. "We had to destroy the village in order to save it" eom