Can we (as in everyone, not just Duers) stop with this 25th amendment stuff? It's rediculous

[louis c]

The 25th Amendment is more difficult to impose on a President than impeaching him.

First thing you need is the support of the Vice President, then you need a majority of the cabinet. If the invocation of the 25th is contested by the President (which it most assuredly will by President* Trump), there must be a two thirds vote of BOTH the House and the Senate to remove him.

As is obvious, invoking the 25th is more difficult than impeachment, which, with nearly 50 Republican Senators seems next to impossible. The 25th is impossible. The more we talk about it, the worse off we are.

[empedocles]

1. Agreed

Silliness

[redstateblues]

2. As if an intelligent man like Rosenstein would run it by John Kelly

as a viable course of action. It's beyond ridiculous.

[FakeNoose]

3. I agree, it's not gonna happen with THIS VP and Cabinet

... even if Trump were drooling and catatonic, they would never invoke 25A on him.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. It's damn near impossible. It was designed for a situation where

a president is completely incapacitated, like in a coma. Being nuttier than squirrel shit isn't going to do it unless said president strips and literally throws his shit at the walls of the Oval Office and announces that he's the Angel Gabriel or the King of Sweden. Maybe.

[0rganism]

6. strangely enough, i would watch that documentary

one film ain't gonna cut it though. has to be a miniseries.

[exboyfil]

8. He would still be President

until he resigns or whoever has the Power of Attorney for him declares that he has resigned.

[elleng]

5. Sadly ridiculous to think members of this administration and congress would do the right thing.

I guess you're right.

[exboyfil]

7. Great points

It does not permanently remove the President from office. Every 30 days or so the elected President (Trump) can petition Congress to continue his powers as President.

It is like The Walking Dead version of impeachment. Two-thirds of both Houses of Congress would have to continue to sustain it.

An interesting question would be a brain dead or a President in a coma without a Living Will. I don't think that the President could be removed in that case unless the Court declares something like a power of attorney (or perhaps spouse) who then offers a resignation letter on behalf of the person.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

9. I get that the Constitution (by necessity)

should make it hard to remove an elected POTUS. But, by the same token, perhaps it made it a bit *too* hard?

Of course, I'm not sure that the founders ever contemplated something like a Trump Presidency flanked by a totally compliant majority party (the founders didn't consider parties being a factor) in Congress, which may have been compromised- in part or in full- by a foreign power itself.