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demmiblue

(36,858 posts)
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 04:27 PM Sep 2018

Kavanaugh has calendars from summer 1982 that he plans to give the Senate that don't show a party...

Kavanaugh has calendars from summer 1982 that he plans to give the Senate that don't show a party that matches Blasey Ford's description, according to someone working for his confirmation. Calendars can't prove it didn't happen but his team will argue there is no corroboration.

The calendars show he was out of town much of the summer at the beach or with his parents and they detail basketball games, movie outings, football workouts and so forth. A few parties are mentioned but include names of people other than those identified by Blasey Ford.






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Kavanaugh has calendars from summer 1982 that he plans to give the Senate that don't show a party... (Original Post) demmiblue Sep 2018 OP
that is ridiculous. I'm sure he wrote everything down uh-huh. How stupid do they think we are? nt jezebel321 Sep 2018 #1
Of course he did! IggleDuer Sep 2018 #34
The Cons expected us to believe that Kavenaugh knew John Fante Sep 2018 #60
Seriously? Solly Mack Sep 2018 #2
What a total crock of ****. skylucy Sep 2018 #3
Do the calendars list the meetings of the 100 Kegs or Bust club? DesertRat Sep 2018 #4
Yes, cause rapists always schedule their rapes. n/t targetpractice Sep 2018 #5
He's not accused of rape. pintobean Sep 2018 #21
You attempt to rob a bank aeromanKC Sep 2018 #33
You have the internet at your fingertips pintobean Sep 2018 #42
Are attempted rapists more likely to schedule their crimes? mythology Sep 2018 #56
How many 17 year old boys kept calendars back then and spooky3 Sep 2018 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Meadowoak Sep 2018 #8
Good question! Nt spooky3 Sep 2018 #11
Maybe that's part of how they have been spent their long preparation hours at the WH-- tblue37 Sep 2018 #10
I would not put it past them. dchill Sep 2018 #12
me neither. fierywoman Sep 2018 #16
We certainly must question those entries with hearts above the "i"s Nevilledog Sep 2018 #29
Lawyers are sometimes an odd bunch; very meticulous. I could see it, from people I know. nt 7962 Sep 2018 #68
LOL, dude must be a serious packrat. klook Sep 2018 #7
ROLFMAO! He just happens Retrograde Sep 2018 #24
lol! Cha Sep 2018 #66
I'm SO grateful to Kavanaugh!!! dchill Sep 2018 #9
If his secretary kept it the thing might rzemanfl Sep 2018 #14
He had a secretary Mr.Bill Sep 2018 #18
That would be as believable as this ridiculous tale is. rzemanfl Sep 2018 #23
And I thought it couldn't get dumber than doppelgangergate. I was wrong. Garrett78 Sep 2018 #13
Excellent point. There's so many lies it's hard Cha Sep 2018 #67
Number of times in high school I wrote parties on a calendar. Mr.Bill Sep 2018 #15
You write down things you might forget YessirAtsaFact Sep 2018 #39
Exactly. joshcryer Sep 2018 #41
and if only 5 people were there, it's very likely that it was unplanned. nt spooky3 Sep 2018 #59
WH leaking this stuff? HipChick Sep 2018 #17
Here is the NYT article (not much more than the tweets): demmiblue Sep 2018 #19
Some replies to Baker's posts: Leghorn21 Sep 2018 #20
The first year I smoked pot I kept calendars of all my pot smoking events. Jim__ Sep 2018 #22
It's crystal clear--GOP flat out thinks we are all super stupid bobbieinok Sep 2018 #25
Are they "cheesecake" calendars? nt torius Sep 2018 #26
Who saves calendars for 30+ years? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #27
I'm sure they're just look-alike calendars, and not originals. Garrett78 Sep 2018 #28
Welp there you have it jcgoldie Sep 2018 #30
THIS "judge" would allow that as "evidence" in a case he was hearing???? REALLY??? lindysalsagal Sep 2018 #31
So "Little Black Books" are now calendars? Brother Buzz Sep 2018 #32
Another trial balloon that will fall flat mcar Sep 2018 #35
It sounds like they constructed a calendar of events from multiple underthematrix Sep 2018 #36
I Wonder if He Drew a Heart on his Calendar after Every Time He got "Lucky" Stallion Sep 2018 #37
That would make him a hoarder. madaboutharry Sep 2018 #38
Why is it even called a party? Izzy Blue Sep 2018 #40
Has anything been said Izzy Blue Sep 2018 #43
Neat little calendar keeper my ass. B. S. bragged in yearbook he couldn't remember shit wasted lunasun Sep 2018 #44
Amazed he has this calendar but no details on his financial records.. HipChick Sep 2018 #45
Who said it was 1982? She was born in 1966. She said when she was 15. That would be 1981. Fla Dem Sep 2018 #46
Ford had said 1982 according to the WaPo Izzy Blue Sep 2018 #51
lol blogslut Sep 2018 #47
It should only be considered valid if it records all his masturbation records grantcart Sep 2018 #48
As I said in the other thread on this topic. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #49
You mean there's no entry for "Almost raped a chick! So close! Damn!" Iggo Sep 2018 #50
How Silly-Guys That Age Don't Keep Calendars of Parties dlk Sep 2018 #52
i sure hope he can produce corroborating evidence of these misspent adventures Horse with no Name Sep 2018 #53
Unless he wrote a meticulous diary every day for his whole life, it's total BS bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #54
Trending, as it fucking well should be: "kavanaugh calendars" Leghorn21 Sep 2018 #55
Well now all evidence has to be checked right? bluestarone Sep 2018 #57
As silly as this is... OilemFirchen Sep 2018 #58
Exactly. They should exist if the republicans accept 82, they must accept other years. nt Blue_true Sep 2018 #63
So Kavanaugh can present evidence at the hearing but Dr. Blasey Ford can't? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2018 #61
Oh come on! Who keeps a calendar of Luciferous Sep 2018 #62
I'm thinking that by Monday the calendar will have morphed into thinkingagain Sep 2018 #64
Surely he also has a 1981 calendar too. Right? and 1983? lamp_shade Sep 2018 #65
lol! Send that question to Senator Harris! nt ecstatic Sep 2018 #71
Better be real, because these days its VERY EASY to spot a faked 35 yr old calendar & writing. 7962 Sep 2018 #69
Calendars like the ones you hang on the wall and forget about? ecstatic Sep 2018 #70

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
60. The Cons expected us to believe that Kavenaugh knew
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 07:07 PM
Sep 2018

60+ women in his teens. They must be projecting the stupidity of the deplorables on all Americans.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
42. You have the internet at your fingertips
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:54 PM
Sep 2018

You have the ability to be properly informed, if you so desire.

Response to spooky3 (Reply #6)

tblue37

(65,391 posts)
10. Maybe that's part of how they have been spent their long preparation hours at the WH--
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 04:38 PM
Sep 2018

filling in blank calendars from the 198Os.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
68. Lawyers are sometimes an odd bunch; very meticulous. I could see it, from people I know. nt
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 02:55 PM
Sep 2018

klook

(12,155 posts)
7. LOL, dude must be a serious packrat.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 04:36 PM
Sep 2018

Maybe he racked up all that credit card debt trying to pay for five storage spaces to keep all his crap.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
24. ROLFMAO! He just happens
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:20 PM
Sep 2018

to have kept every scrap of paper he's ever written on since he learned how to hold a pencil. Yeah, right.

He doesn't need to produce a calendar of dubious provenance - I'll be happy if the Democratic senators just get to see the piles of documents from the Bush era that Grassley is sitting on (with some time to actually read them, of course)

dchill

(38,502 posts)
9. I'm SO grateful to Kavanaugh!!!
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 04:37 PM
Sep 2018

I just removed all the entries in my calendar about parties where I intended to attempt raping someone!

Sure wish I was as smart.

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
23. That would be as believable as this ridiculous tale is.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:19 PM
Sep 2018

This is as bad as Rose Mary Woods explaining the missing 18 minutes.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
13. And I thought it couldn't get dumber than doppelgangergate. I was wrong.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 04:49 PM
Sep 2018

By the way, I sure hope our Senators inquire about how Kav's buddy Ed Whelan knew that Dr. Ford was the accuser before she went public.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
39. You write down things you might forget
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:43 PM
Sep 2018

Parties are easy to remember.

It's not like the due date for a term paper.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
41. Exactly.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:53 PM
Sep 2018

The party would not have been written down on a damn calendar. It was a frat drinking party where they boozed up girls and took advantage of them. The last thing you do is write something like that down on a calendar.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
17. WH leaking this stuff?
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 04:54 PM
Sep 2018

How many parents can say were able to look at their teenagers calendars and KNOW where their kid was?

demmiblue

(36,858 posts)
19. Here is the NYT article (not much more than the tweets):
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:02 PM
Sep 2018
WASHINGTON — Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh has calendars from the summer of 1982 that he plans to hand over to the Senate Judiciary Committee that do not show a party consistent with the description of his accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, according to someone working for his confirmation.

The calendars do not disprove Dr. Blasey’s allegations, Judge Kavanaugh’s team acknowledged. He could have attended a party that he did not list. But his team will argue to the senators that the calendars provide no corroboration for her account of a small gathering at a house where he allegedly pinned her to a bed and tried to remove her clothing.

The calendars show, according to the person working for his confirmation, that he was out of town much of the summer at the beach or away with his parents. When he was at home, the calendars list his basketball games, movie outings, football workouts and college interviews. A few parties are mentioned but include names of friends other than those identified by Dr. Blasey.

Judge Kavanaugh and Dr. Blasey plan to testify before the Judiciary Committee on Thursday as it considers whether to endorse his nomination to the Supreme Court. Dr. Blasey’s allegation of sexual assault when they were both teenagers has upended his seeming path to confirmation and set the stage for a public test of credibility when the two appear separately before the senators.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/23/us/politics/kavanaugh-senate-calendar.html

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
20. Some replies to Baker's posts:
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:08 PM
Sep 2018

Because when we were in high school we wrote down the parties on our calendars..I think not. If we wrote them down at all they would be in code like “study group” or “work on project at —-house” And Dr Ford isn’t even sure of the year. If he knows he was there.


Unless it was part of their 100 kegs countdown and this is how they tallied it . Super weird to keep for 35 years

Super weird for a high schooler to use a calendar. I don’t remember ever keeping a calendar in high school.

I had one, but parents definitely tossed most of my old stuff after about 5 years

I didn’t get calendars until college. Hell I didn’t want anyone knowing where I was in HS

I dare Kavanaugh to submit and carbon date these under oath. No one keeps an itinerary like at age 17.

Plenty do.

Keep their calendars for 36 years?

He has calendars, plural, from 36 years ago, when he was in high school, in the summertime? This is a weird development.

I STAND W/Dr Ford and Pelosi

Who writes parties on calendars?

Especially when you are 17, and there are no parents present but there will be beer.

Apparently the parents were providing kegs

He must also have calendars from his time working for Ken Starr, and in the Bush White House, which he should also be required to produce.


So he has a calendar from 35 years ago, but can’t remember if he talked about the Trump investigation?

Or the name of the law firm where his good friend works


I call b.s. What 17 year old high school student had a calendar back then? People had a party this way....hey my parents are away on Saturday and poof you have a party. It wasn’t a party where invites were sent.

Having gone to a different Jesuit HS a few years earlier, calendars were common and using them to organize ourselves was drilled into us.

And do you have your calendar from 1982?

By 1982 I was in college but up until Superstorm Sandy it was in my mother's basement with a lot of other memories.

I kept a calendar. Not a chance I’d write something down I knew I’d get in trouble for, but I was a good kid. Maybe Kavanagh wasn’t -undisciplined no respect for the law, his parents,or much else but himself. Sounds like a character that I don’t want on the Supreme Court.

According to the initial post the calendars are supposed to show he was out of the area for most of the summer. That is something that would be recorded.

“Senators, as you can clearly see, I never penciled the crime into my calendar.”

Jim__

(14,077 posts)
22. The first year I smoked pot I kept calendars of all my pot smoking events.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:17 PM
Sep 2018

And, I know they're around here ... somewhere ...

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
30. Welp there you have it
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:36 PM
Sep 2018

Who would go to a high school drinking party and try to rape a girl without putting it on their agenda? Plow him through republicans thats good enough for me.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
31. THIS "judge" would allow that as "evidence" in a case he was hearing???? REALLY???
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:36 PM
Sep 2018

That lack of judgement about the relevancy of evidence should get him impeached.

Just like 45: Had he just refused the GOP, and kept his head down, he might have continued his career. Dumbass.

He's not smart enough to be a judge.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
36. It sounds like they constructed a calendar of events from multiple
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:40 PM
Sep 2018

sources of information but I doubt a calendar existed at the time. It would've been metnioned in his initial statement.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
37. I Wonder if He Drew a Heart on his Calendar after Every Time He got "Lucky"
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:41 PM
Sep 2018


….so he could make sure no girl aborted his baby semen

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
38. That would make him a hoarder.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:42 PM
Sep 2018

Why would anyone keep old calendars from when they were a teenager and have them readily accessible.

And where was he storing these old calendars from 35 years ago? And he so quickly found the ones from when he was 17? A teenage boy keeping a calendar?

I would think that the existence of these calendars would have been talked about last week.

These would need to be authenticated. There are experts trained to determine how old ink is.

As Leghorn21 said, teenage parties pop in in five minutes.

This sounds like an insane story to me.



 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
40. Why is it even called a party?
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:49 PM
Sep 2018

When I was around their ages 5 of us at anyone's home was called hanging out.
A party involves more then 5 kids

On edit:

I do get the drinking part is referred to as partying..

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
43. Has anything been said
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 06:09 PM
Sep 2018

On how well Ford and Kavanaugh knew each other or didn't before this?

Dr.Ford had said that she visited Gary Garrett (Ed Whelan deformation/doxing) in the hospital and he was friends with Kavanaugh and Judge.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
44. Neat little calendar keeper my ass. B. S. bragged in yearbook he couldn't remember shit wasted
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 06:18 PM
Sep 2018

much of the time is implied
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Nothing wrong with not keeping an appointment calendar when in high school or even getting wasted just don't lie and pretend to be something else when you are an adult
Esp don't lie about what you did to Ford

Fla Dem

(23,677 posts)
46. Who said it was 1982? She was born in 1966. She said when she was 15. That would be 1981.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 06:23 PM
Sep 2018

Also said early 80's

Christine Margaret Blasey
1966 (age 51–52)

Diaries are worth zero, zilch, nada. Worthless.
He graduated from the prep school in 1983, so it could have been any year from 1980-1983.

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
51. Ford had said 1982 according to the WaPo
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 06:30 PM
Sep 2018

Don't know how accurate this info is.

On September 16, 2018, after media reported anonymous allegations and reporters started to track down her identity, Ford went public.[29] Ford had wrestled with the choice to make her identity known, weighing the potential negative impact it could have on her,[30][31]

but ultimately spoke to The Washington Post, alleging that Kavanaugh had sexually assaulted her in the summer of 1982 when she was 15 and he was 17.[32][33][34]

She said that, with another boy watching, Kavanaugh, intoxicated, held her down on a bed with his body, grinding against and groping her, covering her mouth when she tried to scream and trying to pull her clothes off.[35][36] She recounted escaping when the second boy jumped on them both and they all fell.[7] As corroboration of her account, Ford provided The Post with the polygraph as well as session notes from her therapist written in 2012.[7] The therapist's notes do not name Kavanaugh but record Ford's claim of being attacked by students "from an elitist boys' school" who went on to become "highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington". The therapist's notes also say four boys were involved, which Ford attributed to an error by the therapist; Ford said in 2018 that four boys were at the party but only two were involved in the incident.[7] Ford's husband recalled that she had used Kavanaugh's last name in her 2012 description of the incident.[7] Kavanaugh has categorically denied Ford's allegations.[37] Ford retained civil rights lawyer Debra Katz to represent her in the process of going public with her statements about Kavanaugh.[11][29]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Blasey_Ford

Nevilledog

(51,112 posts)
49. As I said in the other thread on this topic.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 06:28 PM
Sep 2018

Then I wanna see every fucking calendar he must have kept from then to now.


Let's see how he noted that awesome party he went to in law school that he bragged about in a speech. How about the one from when he was 39 and got married..... You know, when he'd try to convince the sheeple that he *finally* lost his virginity?

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
50. You mean there's no entry for "Almost raped a chick! So close! Damn!"
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 06:30 PM
Sep 2018

Well then, he must be telling the truth.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
53. i sure hope he can produce corroborating evidence of these misspent adventures
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 06:41 PM
Sep 2018

otherwise....I can write anything on a calendar and say it is so.
He should also have parties that he went to....if that was something that he did.....

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
54. Unless he wrote a meticulous diary every day for his whole life, it's total BS
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 06:46 PM
Sep 2018

1) No one writes everything down. 2) Successes we remember, but fewer yet write down their failures.

He's trying to create a receipt from irrelevant information.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
55. Trending, as it fucking well should be: "kavanaugh calendars"
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 06:50 PM
Sep 2018
https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=kavanaugh%20calendars&src=typeahead_click

SENATE: [Asks question]
KAVANAUGH: I don't recall
SENATE: [Asks question]
KAVANAUGH: I don't recall
[Gets accused of sexual assault]
KAVANAUGH: My 1982 calendar's June 7th entry shows otherwise

.......Let me get this straight: we're going to get to see the detailed calendars Kavanaugh that he supposedly kept as a 17 year-old but we're NOT going to see the hundreds of thousands of documents related to what he worked in the Bush White House?


........So Kavanaugh has a calendar from 1982 that does not show any rapes on his schedule and a list of 65 women who say he didn't rape them. Is this the sort of evidence he finds compelling in his courtroom?
And why is the committee even allowing him to produce “calendars”?

.........They refused FBI investigation, refused witnesses.

But now they’re going to let Kavanaugh produce “evidence” not corroborated by witnesses or authenticated, supported by FBI?

........
Ate food
Shit myself
Drank milky
Shit myself
Ate food
Shit myself
Drank milky
Went to sleep

I was three. It was a busy day and completely rape free.

A lot of people keep impeccable calendars, just like Brett Kavanaugh.

........Kavanaugh didn’t bother to look at his emails when
@SenatorLeahy
asked him to but he managed to find his high school calendars



OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
58. As silly as this is...
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 07:01 PM
Sep 2018

I want him to produce his calendars from 1981 and 1983.

He lives nearby, so the committee can stand by while he retrieves them.

thinkingagain

(906 posts)
64. I'm thinking that by Monday the calendar will have morphed into
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 08:25 PM
Sep 2018

A diary.

It will probably read like this.
Invited Mark J over to the house he could make it so I invited Christine Blasey Ford
Instead.
We had a fun time hanging out drinking 7up eating popcorn and playing Atari.
She sat on one end of the couch me on the other grandmother sat between us.
I’d ask her over again but mother says I need to focus on my school work so no more parties.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
69. Better be real, because these days its VERY EASY to spot a faked 35 yr old calendar & writing.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 02:57 PM
Sep 2018

A ton of people out there LIVE for this stuff.

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
70. Calendars like the ones you hang on the wall and forget about?
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 03:48 PM
Sep 2018

Are you kidding me? Just stop it already! AND we're supposed to believe he kept it for 35+ years. So he's a f*cking hoarder too, in addition to being a serial sexual assaulter?

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