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Nevilledog

(51,116 posts)
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:14 AM Sep 2018

Kavanaugh's financials

Last edited Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:54 AM - Edit history (1)

I just can't wrap my head around what Kavanaugh's disclosed financials mean. They raise so many questions:

1. Are we missing info about investments?. Does he have money in the market? Real estate? Anything?

2. He is heavily in debt due to an almost million dollar home mortgage. Only has 91k in the bank. Managed to pay off 200k in credit card debt out of the blue. What were his charging habits?. Where's proof that the debt was incurred by purchasing baseball tickets?. How many cash advances did he get?

3. Does his wife come from money? Is she providing the funds that enable their lifestyle (1.2 million dollar house, expensive private school tuition for their spawn). If so, why did he incur enormous credit card debt racking up interest?

4. Did he inherit money?. Is he a trust fund baby?. How did his family pay for his enrollment in elite and expensive schools?

5. Looks like most, if not all, of his employment has been government related. We all know those jobs are not highly paid. Where's the support for his lifestyle?


There's something really wrong here based on what we're being told.


Edit to add:
How in depth does the FBI go into someone's finances on a background check?. Do they actually investigate to verify or do they just draw a little red flag next to the items of concern?

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Kavanaugh's financials (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2018 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #1
I'm confused. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #3
I got it ass-backwards. Haven't had enough coffee yet. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #4
Ha! Nevilledog Sep 2018 #5
I think that was fake news. milestogo Sep 2018 #26
K&R Scurrilous Sep 2018 #2
The guy is a chicken shit, right-wing, gangster's lackey. pangaia Sep 2018 #6
Or they're sloppy with their money. He wasn't exactly Hortensis Sep 2018 #44
BLACKMAILABLE Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #7
I certainly agree with your thinking. It just doesn't make sense how SayItLoud Sep 2018 #15
Enterprising reporters need to follow this -- what are the connections the banker son.. Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #16
In connection with Kavanaugh's questionable finances, Samspadesnark Sep 2018 #8
+1. Kavanaugh sure seems to have a lot to hide dalton99a Sep 2018 #9
Yes,and I True Blue American Sep 2018 #22
"In a world of complete disclosure..." CanonRay Sep 2018 #10
Good observations and questions that should be asked and answered barring Grassley and his gavel. erronis Sep 2018 #17
Agreed. Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #18
Normally can't finance a home mortgage that's more than 3 times your income. He made $320K per year? TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #11
Exactly. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #12
Who gave True Blue American Sep 2018 #23
Please be Deutsche Bank. Oh please, oh please. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #24
He did not inherit either True Blue American Sep 2018 #28
That's not correct for a couple reasons whopis01 Sep 2018 #50
He doesn't make $320K though. It's somewhere south of $200K. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #51
I misunderstood what you posted. It doesn't change much though. whopis01 Sep 2018 #52
Quite a logical explanation, in all likelihood DFW Sep 2018 #13
We should just call him Bribable Brett. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #14
When the microphones are all turned off and stored away DFW Sep 2018 #30
It's too bad hypocrisy doesn't have a visible effect. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #34
The only thing that is missing: DFW Sep 2018 #53
There is something fishy about his financials. SergeStorms Sep 2018 #19
Wasn't his mother a judge? Ilsa Sep 2018 #20
That's the point.... We shouldn't have to "suspect". Nevilledog Sep 2018 #21
Truth on his Mother True Blue American Sep 2018 #25
Republican finances are hidden because they want it that way bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #27
And, of course, will lose a lot from the new "tax reform" law question everything Sep 2018 #29
Makes sense that the Heritage Foundation and/or Tony Perkin's Family Reserch Council Izzy Blue Sep 2018 #31
Totally forgot about the country club fees.... That's almost a third of his yearly salary. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #35
Why Did He Avoid Answering the Financial Questions on his Written Response Ccarmona Sep 2018 #32
Maybe a stupid question... Nevilledog Sep 2018 #36
k and r Achilleaze Sep 2018 #33
I can't remember seeing anything about his finances on any of the MSNBC shows. eppur_se_muova Sep 2018 #37
He has Bill Bennetts disease. gibraltar72 Sep 2018 #38
To me, his finances are the bigger story because they are so easily investigatable and will mark him smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #39
not sensational enough for M$M Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2018 #42
Here is seom of them, but no explanation. True Blue American Sep 2018 #40
We need Ronan Farrow on this ! donkeypoofed Sep 2018 #41
Just want to ask again Nevilledog Sep 2018 #43
The 200k credit card debt was from buying season tickets for friends KWR65 Sep 2018 #45
That's not really proof for me. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #47
Contact the Senate Judicial Committee for a copy of their records. KWR65 Sep 2018 #48
Nice. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #49
He's a Rethug. He probably stole the money. clementine613 Sep 2018 #46

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Nevilledog

(51,116 posts)
3. I'm confused.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:35 AM
Sep 2018

My understanding was that Kavanaugh's mother was the judge handling the aborted foreclosure against Ford's parents, not the financial institute, and that she ultimately dismissed the case. How does that relate to the finances of Kavanaugh's family?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
44. Or they're sloppy with their money. He wasn't exactly
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:56 PM
Sep 2018

low-pay on the Ken Starr investigation, in W's White House, as a Republican party operative on various projects, or as an appellate court judge for god's sake.

Plus, for some time now housing prices have skyrocketed specifically because of outrageously low interest rates. What pair of well established professionals in DC couldn't afford the mortgage on a $1M house in this era? That would be strange.

We have plenty of real dirt on him. Lol. To me that "right-wing" alone is a devastating charge given what they've come to these days.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
7. BLACKMAILABLE
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:20 PM
Sep 2018

That's the critical aspect of this. He was/is blackmailable. A SCOTUS justice.

But wait........maybe this has something to do with Justice Kennedy's son??!!

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
15. I certainly agree with your thinking. It just doesn't make sense how
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:40 PM
Sep 2018

this all came about and the strings that lead to the Kennedy son, tRUMP and the bank.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
16. Enterprising reporters need to follow this -- what are the connections the banker son..
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:44 PM
Sep 2018

...had who would want to own a Justice? I can't remember who that son was doing business with. Something is very dirty here.

Samspadesnark

(75 posts)
8. In connection with Kavanaugh's questionable finances,
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:20 PM
Sep 2018

We should also be asking the question: WHY was a domain name registered for him over a year before his nomination and what were his connections to that, WHO paid $29 million into the PAC that is promoting him, what was the original source of that money (including by country, cough), WHY are they making this epic-scale investment in him, WHAT do they expect to get as a return on their investment, and what are his personal connections to the people running/funding this PAC?? The same questions should be asked with respect to the PR agencies that are promoting him, including whether and to what extent he is coordinating with and directing their efforts.

Both financially and morally speaking, Kavanaugh appears to be a highly compromised person (and there are over 100,000 pages of non-privileged documents pertaining to him and/or written by him that republicans still refuse to disclose), thus greatly increasing his potential for a complete lack of judicial independence, and a beholden state to his benefactors. I assume he wishes to continue his lavish lifestyle; who will finance it then?

I think what we have seen so far is merely the tip of the iceberg. In a world of complete disclosure, Dr. Christine Blasey-Ford might be the least of Kavanaugh's worries.

True Blue American

(17,985 posts)
22. Yes,and I
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:57 PM
Sep 2018

Think that is the big problem here. He has skated through but there is plenty to uncover no one has checked yet.

I do not think the media is doing what they should either. All they do is sensationalize the wrong things.

TheBlackAdder

(28,207 posts)
11. Normally can't finance a home mortgage that's more than 3 times your income. He made $320K per year?
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:28 PM
Sep 2018

.

Supposedly, he put down over $250K and financed $980K. How?

.

Nevilledog

(51,116 posts)
12. Exactly.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:35 PM
Sep 2018

And the monthly mortgage must be huge....... Yet he was still able to pay off 200k in credit card debt. How long did that debt exist?. How would a bank overlook that type of debt in deciding whether or not to give someone an almost million dollar mortgage?

whopis01

(3,514 posts)
50. That's not correct for a couple reasons
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 09:31 PM
Sep 2018

For most mortgages (conforming loans) there is a limit of a 36% debt to income ratio. But that is based on the monthly debt payment to monthly income. It really has nothing to do with the total amount of the loan.

Obviously it does limit the total possible amount, but you have to take interest rate and other factors into account t.

With an annual income of $320k, you could easily have the payment on a $980k loan be leas than 36% of your income.

But the maximum amount for a conforming loan is $424,100. So his loan would have to be jumbo mortgage instead. Since those will never be backed by Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac, the lender doesn’t have to follow those rules at all.

whopis01

(3,514 posts)
52. I misunderstood what you posted. It doesn't change much though.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 09:52 PM
Sep 2018

Say he made $200k a year. That’s a monthly income of $16.6k. You could get a loan for $980k with an interest rate of 4.5% and have the monthly payment be just shy of $5k. That would give you a debt to income ratio of 30%.

An income of $170k would work at that rate.

(I pulled the 4.5% from Wells Fargo’s current rates for a 30 year jumbo loan)

DFW

(54,403 posts)
13. Quite a logical explanation, in all likelihood
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:35 PM
Sep 2018

He's a flawed Republican in a position to make decisions that will greatly enhance the finances of rich Republicans if he gets on the Supreme Court. It shouldn't come as a surprise that people like that, when they incur debts that would swamp a normal mortal, sometimes see their debts vanish in a puff of smoke (or Koch, which is probably more accurate), in exchange for verbal promises of favorable decisions.

DFW

(54,403 posts)
30. When the microphones are all turned off and stored away
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:23 PM
Sep 2018

I'm sure even McConnell calls him something similar

Nevilledog

(51,116 posts)
34. It's too bad hypocrisy doesn't have a visible effect.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:32 PM
Sep 2018

You know, some hideous physical manifestation when you're a hypocrite...... Something like you'd look like a turtle.........oh, wait...

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
19. There is something fishy about his financials.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:52 PM
Sep 2018

I agree 100%. We've actually been told so little about this guy, yet we're supposed to give him a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land on Republican's say-so? I don't think so!

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
20. Wasn't his mother a judge?
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:54 PM
Sep 2018

I suspect some of his money may be from inheritance. No word about his wife's financials.

bucolic_frolic

(43,175 posts)
27. Republican finances are hidden because they want it that way
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:07 PM
Sep 2018

Democrat's finances are stolen via email and posted publicly

This is called fair and balanced

question everything

(47,486 posts)
29. And, of course, will lose a lot from the new "tax reform" law
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:20 PM
Sep 2018

that sharply reduced the amount that one can itemize on mortgage interest and property tax.

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
31. Makes sense that the Heritage Foundation and/or Tony Perkin's Family Reserch Council
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:27 PM
Sep 2018

imo, Would have gladly paid off Kavanaugh's debts to get him on the SCOTUS.

Why ask for or use family's money when these groups have millions to invest in their chosen ones?
Whatever organizations did the research and gave Trump a list of suggested nominees are suspect.


" Many Mysteries of Brett Kavanaugh’s Finances"

"Who made the down payment on his house? How did he come up with $92,000 in country club fees?"

Stephanie MencimerSeptember 13, 2018 2:25 PM

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/09/the-many-mysteries-of-brett-kavanaughs-finances/

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
32. Why Did He Avoid Answering the Financial Questions on his Written Response
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:27 PM
Sep 2018

To the Senators? He’s hiding something that probably could be answered in the reams of documents not submitted to the Senate Judiciary Committee. This nomination smells like week old unrefrigerated fish.

Nevilledog

(51,116 posts)
36. Maybe a stupid question...
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:34 PM
Sep 2018

Do the committee members/senate get to see the written background checks?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
39. To me, his finances are the bigger story because they are so easily investigatable and will mark him
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:37 PM
Sep 2018

as a huge risk if found that he is corrupt. The rape charge is very serious and should disqualify him automatically, but I don't think nearly enough attention is being focused on his shady financial past. Time for someone to open that up.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
42. not sensational enough for M$M
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 04:35 PM
Sep 2018

There are several smoking guns in this thread alone, but TV (and its audience) needs more sensationalism. The news of the assault and attempted rape -may- slow down the sham long enough for the dark and shady finances to percolate up the news cycle.

Do any of the money trails lead back to Russia? What are the Republicans hiding from we the people?

Hang on, Dr. Christine Blasely Ford. It's not fair to you, but we need you.

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
41. We need Ronan Farrow on this !
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:49 PM
Sep 2018

He'd find out !! But alas, I think he's working on another huge story. Darn.

Nevilledog

(51,116 posts)
43. Just want to ask again
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:43 PM
Sep 2018

Does anyone know if the FBI background checks are supplied to the Senate or do they just have to go on the WH's word that they were okay?

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
45. The 200k credit card debt was from buying season tickets for friends
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 06:02 PM
Sep 2018

He was reimbursed by his friends and then he paid off the CC debt. This was verified by the SJC.

Nevilledog

(51,116 posts)
47. That's not really proof for me.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 06:17 PM
Sep 2018

Who has friends that'll let you burden yourself with 200k for baseball tickets?. How long did he carry the balance?. Who paid the interest?. If it was so easy for them to pay him back why didn't they give him the money up front?. What is this so called verification from the SJC?. Who saw this so called verification?

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