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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 06:36 PM Sep 2018

Did the NYTimes reporters get "played"?

Perhaps?

That was the response of Bill Kristol on Ari Melber's show.

It is a very shoddy story, in my opinion.

They use second-hand sources that were not at the meeting but reportedly had read it in a memo. The names attached to the article were Maggie Haberman, Michael Schmidt, and Adam Goldman, all respected journalists of the NYTimes.

They are beginning to give "fake news" a bad name.

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Did the NYTimes reporters get "played"? (Original Post) kentuck Sep 2018 OP
And rump will use this lie to fire him. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #1
But Trump would then have to admit that a story by the Failing New York Times, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #5
Ahh... you fixed it BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #2
Played like a fiddle manor321 Sep 2018 #3
The NYT Lindsay Sep 2018 #4
They don't seem to be people with agendas. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #9
Thanks. elleng Sep 2018 #11
They are not getting played. They are going for tabloid janx Sep 2018 #6
Correct spelling is Bill Kristol and he is a RW jackass who is always wrong about everything oberliner Sep 2018 #7
Bill Shine appears to have dupped someone. Wellstone ruled Sep 2018 #8
I saw that. janx Sep 2018 #10
The NYT might have been played but they made the decision to go to print based on a practically Trust Buster Sep 2018 #12
They do that frequently. Nt B2G Sep 2018 #13
Even the NYT can get 'played' empedocles Sep 2018 #14
Or do the playing e.g. Judith Miller. Sneederbunk Sep 2018 #15

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
1. And rump will use this lie to fire him.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 06:37 PM
Sep 2018

but hey, right here on DU Obama is being attacked and aint nothing I can do about it so i say fuck it all

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,834 posts)
5. But Trump would then have to admit that a story by the Failing New York Times,
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 06:42 PM
Sep 2018

which only publishes Fake News, was true.

BumRushDaShow

(129,422 posts)
2. Ahh... you fixed it
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 06:39 PM
Sep 2018

I thought Woodward wasn't there (have been watching).

I am still in awe that things have gotten so bad that a Bill Kristol or a George Will are actually doing what they are doing.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,834 posts)
9. They don't seem to be people with agendas.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 06:51 PM
Sep 2018
Adam Goldman reports on the F.B.I. for The New York Times and was part of a team that won a Pulitzer Prize in 2018 for national reporting on Russia’s meddling in the presidential election. Previously, he covered national security for The Washington Post and worked on the investigative team at The Associated Press, where he and his colleagues revealed the New York Police Department’s Muslim spying programs. Their reporting on the department won the 2012 Pulitzer Prize for Investigative Reporting. Adam is the coauthor of “Enemies Within: Inside the NYPD's Secret Spying Unit and bin Laden's Final Plot Against America.” He lives in Washington.
https://www.nytimes.com/by/adam-goldman and https://www.nytimes.com/by/michael-s-schmidt

Both have won Pulitzers and have written highly critical stories about Trump and his administration. It's actually possible that what they wrote is actually true, or at least well-sourced. A story shouldn't be called "fake news" just because we don't like it.

janx

(24,128 posts)
6. They are not getting played. They are going for tabloid
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 06:47 PM
Sep 2018

to increase their ratings. Not one of their anonymous sources was actually in the room where these comments allegedly took place. It is second- or third-hand gossip, nothing more. Someone fed them a narrative and they embellished it regurgitated it.

Even if Rosenstein had mentioned the 25th amendment in anger at some point, it would not be a basis for a real news story. And, by the way, I doubt he did. The 25th amendment was only mentioned in McCabe's brief notes from the meeting, and that quote was not attributed to anyone in particular.

Either these reporters are lazy, or they don't have the stones to insist on real sources. My guess is that it's the former.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. Bill Shine appears to have dupped someone.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 06:49 PM
Sep 2018

Story out there about Shine launching a whisper campaign to dump Rosenstein.

janx

(24,128 posts)
10. I saw that.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 06:52 PM
Sep 2018


A media campaign. So far this is only conjecture, but given the reaction of major media it seems to be working. Ingraham on Fox pounced on it immediately. Others are following suit.
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
12. The NYT might have been played but they made the decision to go to print based on a practically
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:03 PM
Sep 2018

Unsourced claim of this import. No one forced them to do that.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
14. Even the NYT can get 'played'
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:19 PM
Sep 2018

In the Bourne Legacy movie, the bad guys need to cover up a failed, [good guy Aaron Cross made them fail], assassination. Bad guy successfully 'played' the Washington Post, to help the coverup. Seemed plausible, doable.

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