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dsc

(52,166 posts)
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 10:55 PM Sep 2018

I live in Eastern NC (I was spared for the most part by the hurricane)

I want to point out that eastern NC isn't the uniformly Trump voting hellhole that some posters here have been suggesting. My county, Wayne, is the home of Rev William Barber, who is a certified progressive hero. Wilmington, the city arguably hardest hit by Florence, is a liberal enclave. For several years the sole LGBT member of our General Assembly came from there.

Here is a map of the 2016 governor's race.



If you look at the map, the blue area on the south east corner by itself, is Wilmington (one of 8 counties which voted against the ban on marriage equality). The three blue counties at the bottom of the map are Fayetteville and some neighbors. The large blue area in the north is the black majority area in the east. The dark blue counties are Durham and Orange (Durham and Chapel Hill). For the record Cooper barely won.

Eastern NC isn't a liberal haven by any means but there are many Democratic voters and some of the party leaders in our area. Both governor Hunt and governor Cooper come from eastern NC. So cut us some slack here.

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I live in Eastern NC (I was spared for the most part by the hurricane) (Original Post) dsc Sep 2018 OP
My sister lives in Asheville MaryMagdaline Sep 2018 #1
My sister and her family live in Asheville, too. Well, Cha Sep 2018 #6
very liberal dsc Sep 2018 #7
Thanks for posting this lordsummerisle Sep 2018 #2
We have family in Waxhaw. Voted for Trump. secondwind Sep 2018 #3
indeed - and my favorite NC place - Ocracoke Island - is about 70% Dem! NRaleighLiberal Sep 2018 #4
yeah the coastal communities are quite liberal dsc Sep 2018 #5
They stuck Ocracoke in Hyde - with Swan Quarter- Ocracoke tourism provides the $$$ for Hyde NRaleighLiberal Sep 2018 #11
Mr. bear is from NC and I lived there many years. I love it. nolabear Sep 2018 #8
My mother's family is in Fayetteville lunatica Sep 2018 #9
My dad was stationed there in the 1950's dsc Sep 2018 #10
Best thoughts to you. Help save us from this nightmare. rusty quoin Sep 2018 #12
Oh my, does that bring back some really good memories. Stonepounder Sep 2018 #13
Both my parents were from NC area51 Sep 2018 #14
Glad you are safe. Behind the Aegis Sep 2018 #15
Greetings from a transplanted NJ liberal who now lives in Wayne County, NC Jersey Devil Sep 2018 #16
Rec'd and kick'd lunatica Sep 2018 #17
The map is slightly different for the Presidential election results--noticeably Wilmington. mnhtnbb Sep 2018 #18
To be fair Cooper is from this area dsc Sep 2018 #19
I live in Pitt County where Clinton beat Trump by about 7 points ooky Sep 2018 #20
yeah he is an odd one dsc Sep 2018 #21

Cha

(297,576 posts)
6. My sister and her family live in Asheville, too. Well,
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 11:15 PM
Sep 2018

Fairview which is about 12 miles away.

I used to live in Asheville in the '70s. I loved it!

dsc

(52,166 posts)
7. very liberal
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 11:19 PM
Sep 2018

but to be fair, not in eastern NC. If we redraw maps so Asheville isn't split you should get a Democratic congressperson out there.

lordsummerisle

(4,651 posts)
2. Thanks for posting this
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 11:00 PM
Sep 2018

There are many areas in the country that are made up of red and blue enclaves such as this, but these subtleties don't make headlines...

dsc

(52,166 posts)
5. yeah the coastal communities are quite liberal
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 11:11 PM
Sep 2018

Dare County had the highest percentage of vote opposing the amendment (not sure if Ocracoke is in that county or not).

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
8. Mr. bear is from NC and I lived there many years. I love it.
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 11:23 PM
Sep 2018

I don’t need to go into detail. There’s a whole lot to adore.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
9. My mother's family is in Fayetteville
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 11:24 PM
Sep 2018

I lived there when I was in High School and graduated from Fayetteville Senior High School in 1968 where all the army brats from Fort Bragg went. The school was completely integrated because of that. It was right at the time that they started busing Black kids to White schools.

Interesting times.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
10. My dad was stationed there in the 1950's
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 11:27 PM
Sep 2018

a much different time to say the least. The army was desegregated, at least officially, but when they traveled they were forced to resegregate at least at the beginning of a trip. Soon they would group by interest instead of race as the trip dragged on.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
13. Oh my, does that bring back some really good memories.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 01:45 AM
Sep 2018

Back in the mid 50's I went to Camp Celo located in eastern NC. (Google celo, nc) Back then it was about as rural as you could possibly get. Camp Celo was founded by Arthur Morgan, who had been president of Antioch College in Yellow Springs, OH. A very progressive College (still is) and he brought his progressive ideas to Camp Celo. The camp was Quaker, and we campers went to Meeting on Sunday. But everyone was welcome, white, black, Christian, Jewish.

The town of Celo was several miles away and was your typical small town. One day, a few of us campers went into town. I needed a haircut and so did my buddy (we were about 10 at the time and oh, btw, my buddy was black). So we wandered down the main street until we found a barber shop (which I remember as having only one chair). I got my hair cut and then the barber turned to my friend and said: "I've never cut hair like yours but if you want I'll do my best." My friend climbed into the chair and came away with a pretty good looking haircut.

Even in the days of Jim Crow, in the days before integration, there were places in the deep south where folks were just folks and folks tried not to even notice skin color.

Behind the Aegis

(53,979 posts)
15. Glad you are safe.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 05:35 AM
Sep 2018

I lived there and have family there, from Wilmington to Edenton. I also have lots of friends there too.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
16. Greetings from a transplanted NJ liberal who now lives in Wayne County, NC
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:36 AM
Sep 2018

My wife and I live in Goldsboro, along with our daughter and her husband, all Democrats.

mnhtnbb

(31,402 posts)
18. The map is slightly different for the Presidential election results--noticeably Wilmington.
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 02:22 PM
Sep 2018



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_North_Carolina,_2016

I was able to grab this map from wikipedia, but there are numerous other maps (NY Times, for instance) that show the differences.

The take away is that there were people willing to vote for a Democratic Governor (a white male) but not a Democratic President (a white woman).

There were a lot of factors in play in the 2016 election, not the least of which was Russian interference, low turnout, and third party candidates, but I truly believe that in this purple state of NC, there were too many voters who DID vote who couldn't bring themselves to vote for a woman, even though she was obviously the most qualified candidate.



dsc

(52,166 posts)
19. To be fair Cooper is from this area
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 02:34 PM
Sep 2018

so there is also that. Also, the GOP legislature infuriated many people so that they wanted a check on that which they hoped Cooper could provide. In the case of Wilmington, they had a major industry (filming) obliterated by the state. All of that said, I am surprised that Wilmington's county went for Trump.

ooky

(8,928 posts)
20. I live in Pitt County where Clinton beat Trump by about 7 points
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 02:47 PM
Sep 2018

52% to 45%. East Carolina University is in Pitt County (Greenville).

Unfortunately, we do not have a democrat candidate on the ticket to challenge incumbent Republican Walter Jones for U.S. House district 3. He has held the seat for 23 years. I should add, however, that Jones has often sided with the democrats on some key issues, including more recently the effort to kill the ACA and the tax scam.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
21. yeah he is an odd one
Fri Sep 21, 2018, 03:07 PM
Sep 2018

He has been primaried twice winning both times. I wish we could get rid of him but likely he is the best that area can do.

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