What if we recruit liberals in populous states to move to low population red states?

[Yavin4]

What if we recruited liberals from Mass., NY, and CA to move to states like Wyoming, the Dakotas, Idaho, etc. to move to these states and flip them blue? Wouldn't that solve all our problems?

[stopbush]

1. Leave SoCal and move to Idaho?

Unless you’re ready to offer me a couple million dollars for doing so, no thanks.

[MrsCoffee]

3. Right?

[Zambero]

16. Boise is highly recommended

A very livable blue patch in an otherwise deep red state. Far more progressive than, say, Riverside County. Mayor Bieter is a lifelong Democrat. Obama carried Boise city twice as did HRC, although Ada County as a whole tips Republican. Even conservatives here tend be be libertarian live-and-let-live types, and not beer gut crazies. Aside from that. the notion of relocation for the purpose of shifting political demographics is ill-advised and bound to fail. Winning people over on the basis of critical issues, as is happening with independent women at the moment, makes far more sense.

[stopbush]

17. How's the weather/beaches/culture up there?

What is Disneyland Idaho like?

[Zambero]

21. Depends on what you are looking for

I hail originally from Long Beach CA. Been here 13 years with prior stops along the way in Oregon and Maryland. I'd say the vibe here is interior Northwest with a Rocky Mountain element as well. Have enjoyed Disneyland many times, but prefer outdoor activities in a natural setting. Weather is high desert, low humidity, mostly sunny days with distinct seasons. About 20" total of snow per year in town with skiing minutes away. The dry climate is a plus, making seasonal temperature extremes more tolerable. Don't have the coastline here of course, but there is a white water park on the river that recently added a wave simulator (and sandy beach) for those seeking out a surfing vibe. Culture-wise there is an active arts, music, and food scene. Did I forget beer? Portland and Seattle have a major competitor in that department. The annual spring Treefort festival draws 100's of artists from around the country. The population is becoming more diverse and if someone arrived here hoping to find themselves in a lily-white conservative Mecca they could be in for a big disappointment. It's no secret that the state as a whole has a long way to go. There are liberal enclaves in places like Ketchum, Moscow, Hailey, and the college end of Pocatello. South and east Idaho is as LDS as most of Utah. Not to knock anyone's religious preference, as they are for the most part decent people, albeit providing a solid 35% vote bloc for the GOP statewide, a steep hill to climb for any Dem in a statewide race.

[yonder]

93. Well said, now a respectful "shhusshh".

And I think you know why, neighbor.

[jmowreader]

120. Disneyland Idaho is small and well-maintained

https://www.silverwoodthemepark.com

This is in Athol, about 20 miles north of Coeur d'Alene.

Its schedule follows:
May: Saturday and Sunday only
June thru August: open every day
September: Saturday and Sunday only
October: Becomes the "haunted amusement park Scarywood" and operates Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights

In November through...oh, March...Schweitzer Basin is open for skiing. In April you have to find your own entertainment.

[yonder]

84. Thankyou, Z.

[boisean]

125. People are pouring into the state from California

From everywhere, actually, but Cal especially. I believe many are looking for a more conservative place, so they aren't shifting the balance Leftward for the most part.

When my family first came here, Idaho had Dem. Senator Frank Church and Gov. Cecil Andrus. We've been in red state hell since Steve Symms defeated Church. Boise and the other university towns along with Sun Valley have been the only blue/purple spots on the map for decades.

One bright spot this year is the candidacy of Paulette Jordan. If elected, she will be the first Native American governor. The odds are against her, but she has attracted a lot of attention here and nationwide and I believe she'll finish strong.

[stopbush]

131. CA has added over 3-million residents in the last decade.

Estimated population for 2018 is 39.7-million.

I imagine conservatives are leaving the state as they have no political power beyond local politics.

[Zambero]

132. True, a few CA lefties but more conservative transplants

My neighbor moving here from OC is actually disappointed that Boise wasn't the right-wing hotbed he'd hoped for. Colorado Springs might have suited him better.

[yonder]

133. Welcome to DU, boisean

[NurseJackie]

2. Yes. That would definitely solve all our problems.

Wouldn't that solve all our problems?

Yes. That would definitely solve all our problems.

Good luck!

[brooklynite]

4. Let us know when THE FREE STATE PROJECT works out...

Conservatives have been talking for decades about moving en masse to New Hampshire to create a "REAL" conservative society. Still waiting...

[saidsimplesimon]

32. Libertarians have even

come up with creating island states in the oceans that they could make to the image of their goddess Rand. Tennessee was also one of the states selected for a red take over, no state income tax.

[lagomorph777]

33. Now that would be awesome if we could persuade RWers to move to islands in the ocean

and then revoke their passports.

[saidsimplesimon]

35. Great idea, but they

would probably find a way to loot the US Treasury on their way out.

[teamster633]

61. Our former Governor, Craig Benson, was a big advocate of the Free State Project.

It might be part of the reason that he is the only Governor in our recent (entire?) history who sought and was denied a second term.

[onenote]

5. I recall this cockamamie idea being floated on DU a few years back

[it didn’t go well.

[sarah FAILIN]

39. I've suggested it many times to retirees

Our taxes are crazy cheap. You could sell your million dollar California home and buy 10 just like it here.

My dream...I just want some normal neighbors.

[onenote]

41. Do you mind my asking what state?

[sarah FAILIN]

49. Alabama, but we have some very blue areas

Huntsville is great, lots of blue in Birmingham and south AL. Cost of living is very low compared to California. I rented a nice 3 br house to some CA Republicans for $700/mo and the husband told me it would be 5k where he just came from. They wanted to get away from the liberals, lol.

[SoCalNative]

85. Until Alabama or other red states

can pay me what I'm making a year in SoCal, I'm gonna have to pass. Also, they would have to have the same weather year round.

[john657]

70. Same story here in Wyoming.

Our house, which we bought for 94,000, would go for 10X that in SoCal.

Just crazy.

[CreekDog]

82. no, because most of us who have houses have mortgages on them

my mortgage can't be used to buy houses in other states.

besides, not worth a million, even if mortgage free anyway.

[politicaljunkie41910]

113. So did I. Most of those small population Red States are not bad. I've been to many of them.

While you might not want to live there in your high earning years, I know many neighbors and couples who have moved to these states after they retired.

[YessirAtsaFact]

6. How about the Democratic Party puts a consistent effort

Campaigning and educating people in rural areas?

They aren’t bad people, just brainwashed

[LakeArenal]

107. That's the correct serious answer

To a, meant for fun, post.

But you are correct. One on one is the best way to change minds.

But that takes time and we’ve become a sound bite populous.

PS No way a red state. WI is too red now.
We’re gonna turn it solid blue in Nov.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

7. Seriously?

You couldn't pay me enough to move to one of those states. There's a reason they are low-population.

[lancelyons]

19. When the GOP takes over the SC and gerrymanders everything else and makes your home a Red State Home

When the GOP takes over the SC and gerrymanders everything else and makes your home a Red State Home.

then you might rethink.

Many states called red states are beautiful country.

However I do agree that the democratic party needs to invest in these other states to start turning them around.

Now is a good time to start since most people have a bad taste with Trump and the current GOP.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

8. LMAO.

[john657]

9. This has to be the dumbest thing I've heard yet.

You would want to uproot people just to for political reasons?

[sarah FAILIN]

50. Why not?

A lot of people go south for better weather and cost of living anyway. If you feel you are under represented in your area, you are welcome to come to mine when you retire. My Representative knows me by name if you get what I mean. Plenty of contact.

[at140]

52. Weather sucks in ALL red states

That is why people living there are angry red necks. Alabama? Omg hot & humid 8 months in the year.

[sarah FAILIN]

59. You get used to it

We only have a tiny winter which also saves money. How would you feel never dealing with snow?

[at140]

63. Majority of my adult life was spent in..

Chicago area. I lived in the city, and then the burbs. During snow season (barely 2 months)
I joined a ski club, and that was so much enjoyable, I actually looked forward eagerly to snow falls.

[sarah FAILIN]

65. I love snow myself

We had 10 inches one time and I was in heaven. Many northerners don't love it, but it is a rare treat for us.

[at140]

71. I had never seen snow until age 21 .. Then 1 day in early Oct

My college roommate in u of Iowa wakes me up to look outside. As you might know Iowa gets lots of snow. I look outside the window and it was like a dream world. Everything was covered in white virgin snow! For a foreign student from South Asia, it was a shock and I ran out to play in the powdery white stuff. LOL..

[former9thward]

74. I live in Chicago and the winter sucks.

So does most of "fall" and "spring" which is grey and dreary. You may like it but true Chicagoans feel differently.

[at140]

121. In my 30's & 40's I lived in Chicago

and after I took up downhill skiing, I looked forward to large snowfalls. Then I entered my 50's and the cold started to bother me a lot.

I remember one particular ski trip to upper Michigan. The bus brought us back to Chicago around 1 am, and it was 20 below temp, and 2 feet deep snow drifts in the parking lot. I could'nt even open doors of my car due to deep snow around my car. Only 4 of the 40 cars belonging to our ski club group started. It was 4am when I finally got home.

[john657]

72. Excuse me, but Wyoming is very beautiful, compared to say,

SoCal.

And the weather, once one becomes acclimated, is quite livable.

[Codeine]

73. I grew up in Wyoming.

Rock Springs and Eden, specifically. I now live in Southern California. The two areas aren’t even remotely comparable for physical beauty.

[john657]

77. I was born and raised in Wyoming,

the only reason I left for 8 years was Army related.

I grew up in Evansville, east of Casper, but still in Natrona County, we now live in the burbs of Casper where we own and run a very successful construction company.

I wouldn't trade my beloved Wyoming for any other place in the US, except maybe Montana.

[Blue_true]

94. I agree.

There is no way that I would compare Wyoming to Southern California. Not even if I was drunk, smoking a joint, I am a teetotaler in all aspects to, so my threshold to getting wasted fast is tiny.

[at140]

76. Wait until you get older

You will hate the cold weather. Once I crossed 55 candles, never could like Chicago winters. One year it was so cold, water pipes in garage burst. Escaped to Seattle area, and threw away all heavy winter gear. I will take rain over snow, it does not need shoveling the driveway!

[john657]

78. If you look at my avatar, you'll get an idea of how old I am.

I have no problem with the cold weather, as a native of Wyoming, I know what to expect and how to dress to stay warm.

We plan to live and die in our beloved WY.

[at140]

86. Ahhh sure...

I am loving the beaches in Florida, shorts & tee shirts year round, baby!
But I have driven through Wyoming many times, and it is pretty with mountains and greenery. I am pleasantly surprised how green Florida is. I could not live on desert of Arizona.

[john657]

89. Loved FL when I was stationed there for a year,

the only bad thing was the damn humidity.

I too, couldn't live in AZ, or NV, too fucking hot, especially So. AZ and So. NV.

I hear people say, but it's a dry heat, yeah, you just burn up that much faster. LOL.

[Blue_true]

92. The Alabama Coast is awesome. Northern Alabama isn't bad.

Do you realize that the people in Northern Alabama wanted to join the Union and had to be put down by force?

[at140]

124. Agreed on any coast! I love the oceans.

I would love to live in a high rise ocean front condo, where one can listen to the waves breaking, and the sea breezes beginning in evening are wonderful.

[Blue_true]

127. Those types of condos are nice. I love the ocean too.

But prefer swimming in swimming pools for safety reasons.

[TomSlick]

123. Oh, I don't know.....

Arkansas has very mild winters. From watching national weather reports, it is not particularly hotter here in the summer - it's just that the summers last longer. Besides, you can always retreat inside with the air conditioning.

Little Rock is a blue enclave so you won't stick out.

Ya'll come.

[john657]

69. No thanks.

I'll stay in my beloved Wyoming, where my wife and I are getting ready to retire and leave our kids in charge.

[Blue_true]

96. Do you have a covenant for your kids concerning your construction business.

I have seen successful businesses torn to shreds due to fights among the kids. A covenant can set things like buyout/consolidation rules, so that if kids don't agree, there are rules for how they resolve that as far as company ownership and operation goes. Maybe you have decided that you and your wife don't need one, but I tell you, I have not seen that yet.

[john657]

98. No, we will still hold the controlling interest in the business,

and our 2 sons and 1 daughter are all on board with how the business is to be run.

Thanks for your concern, it's something to think about.

[MANative]

10. Sure, I'd do it. One condition, though...

All the current residents must be relocated to the surface of Mars. Then, I'm all in!

SMH

[Initech]

11. Have you seen the movie "My Cousin Vinny"?

Northerners don't exactly play nice with southerners.

[JonLP24]

12. Kick I think it's a good idea

I'd be willing to do it if I'm not alone otherwise I'd be stuck in a rural red state by myself.

[sarah FAILIN]

40. Come to Alabama

We've got good football..

[JonLP24]

45. I don't know if I could root for a team expecting a championship every year

More fun and heartbreak rooting for Arizona State Sun Devils who came close to winning a National Chamionship in 1996

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Arizona_State_Sun_Devils_football_team

Probably won't be anytime soon we have another shot especially with recruiting so far only 3 star prospects. Our only 5 star is Neal Harry.

[Awsi Dooger]

79. Bizarre ending to that Sun Devils game Saturday night

Like 2:30 AM here in Miami. I concede I was rooting for San Diego State. But that's garbage an illegal hit can cause an incomplete pass.

My favorite part of that game was when Sportscenter showed Phil Mickelson standing on the sideline. Neil Everett asked, "Do you think Phil has action on this game?...You bet your ass he does."

[sarah FAILIN]

110. No title this year

We have decided we need to take a break from all the winning.

[Blue_true]

99. Come to Florida.

We don't cheat as well at football, but we have better weather and much better food.

[sarah FAILIN]

109. Really??

Cheating?? Sorry but that is uncalled for.

Friendly banter inviting people to help flip a state doesn't require accusations of cheating. There are things I could say about Florida football too.

[Blue_true]

118. Ok, I apologize about the football.

Maybe I am envious, Florida has sucked at football for a few years now since "I don't remember" Urban Mayer left.

But we definitely have better weather and far, far better food, I won't take that back.

[sarah FAILIN]

134. That is true

Many things put Florida over the top,

[jayschool2013]

129. Come to Iowa City

I moved here from Boulder last year, and Iowa City is much more diverse than Boulder could ever hope to be.

[wryter2000]

13. I'm not moving

Leave Oakland? No thanks

[world wide wally]

14. What if we just make representation proportionate?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

20. Exactly. The problem is that the number of representatives in the House was set

by statute at 435 in 1913, and capped at that number in 1923. Attempts at reapportionment or increasing the total number of districts and representatives have not been successful, and the result is that some congresscritters represent more citizens than others do.

[MarvinGardens]

62. That number could be increased by statute as well.

Something to think about when we are back in power. This would also decrease our disadvantage in the EC.

Regarding reapportionment, house seats are reapportioned every 10 years.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

68. Although reapportionment is done every 10 years, the limits on the number

of representatives make it pretty much impossible to reapportion fairly. I hope the statute setting the cap does get changed; it definitely needs revisiting after some 100 years.

[Freddie]

15. Actually what we need to do

Is change things so people matter more than empty land.

[malthaussen]

18. Depends on the pay, I imagine.

If some liberal multi-billionaire wanted to drop a few billion setting people up, I'd be glad to take the cash. Doubt even a mega-rich person could finance enough people to make any substantive change in a district.

-- Mal

[Aristus]

22. No way. I live in a nominally blue state.

But if I cross the Cascades, suddenly I'm in Trump Country, with Trump signs blighting farm fields as far as the eye can see.

Still, we're blue because most of the voters in my state live in just three counties west of the mountains. No way in the world I would want to live in a state that's dark red. I can't talk to Trumpsters because it gives me a headache trying to think down to their level.

I'm staying put in lovely, liberal Western Washington.

[Desert grandma]

23. Actually we could solve this problem

if we got rid of the electoral college and installed a "one person, one vote" system, and made certain all citizens were registered to vote.

[Codeine]

24. There's a reason nobody lives in those states.

I’ll stay right here in California, thanks. Let’s make representation fairer instead of attempting political resettlement of flyover country.

[lunasun]

25. With 24 hr security force, gates and lots of cash ? Can people who look like me stop by to visit ?

What do you mean by recruit?
My price would be maybe 750k /yr and contract of < or total of 3 yrs * covering 1 election cycle and 1 midterm only
and not until kids are out of high school would I be available , then use some of the money to send them to a nice university (not nearby ) or to do whatever on thier own, and visit them and friends family etc so I'd have to be by an airport and live security needs are paid for by recruiter

Not taking family there even at 750k a yr and I probably only need to be there a % of the year to vote in those states so price includes maybe keeping another location to get away from wingers and freezing cold as frequently as voting law allows, hmmm so maybe it needs to be a higher price to recruit me to Wyoming or other states mentioned.
I would really have to think about 750 now that I think about it even a little


My thought is some liberals that move there would become republican eventually too or thier young children have a high probability of ending up RW

*Contract would include not being forced to live around rich assholes house district area also...

The average annual income of the wealthiest one percent of the residents of Teton County, Wyoming — a group that includes Dick Cheney and Wal-Mart heiress Christy Walton — is more than $28 million.

The county's top-earning residents, on average, earn more than those of any other county in the U.S. The top-earning residents of New York, No. 2 on the list, earn more than two-thirds less.
Seems like DU Lounge material

[bearsfootball516]

26. Technically it work work, but it's horrendously impractical and would never happen.

[ploppy]

27. The Rajneesh tried something similar in Oregon.

It didn't work out as expected.

[lunasun]

48. +++

[awesomerwb1]

28. I'm game

It'll take a 100-200 acre ranch and $1m.

[greatauntoftriplets]

29. I'll be happy to move to Hawaii!

[eleny]

30. Utah is gorgeous

And Wyoming sure wouldn't take as many people as other states. Lots of room and a low population. You just have to like wide open spaces and not mind the wind.

[Calculating]

34. Only problem with Utah is the church which runs everything there

....

[eleny]

42. Any deep red state has prohibitive drawbacks

Once Dems take the majority of a red state it would become a place with plenty enough people to associate with and becomes even more appealing for liberals.

Once you tip over the halfway mark it would be as comfortable to live in Utah as it would be in a state originally dominated by fire & brimstone xtians, imo.

[WhiteTara]

31. I already did this.

I've been in blood red Arkansas for 9 years and I'm seeing changes.

[The Figment]

36. Oh lordy do I wish I could...

Move to California, Oregon or Washington!!!!!!!

I live in one of those red states you speak of and there is a reason us "libtards" call it Afkansastan.

IT SUCKS!!!

The weather...15 below to 105 above and muggy enough to mold everything and thunderstorms and tornadoes that wipe out entire cities.

The political scene here..."What's the matter with Kansas" says it all

The only reason I don't leave tomorrow is it would be a real pain in the ass to transfer my SSI and Doctors,plus I would be totally homeless on what I get monthly, living in my van with an O2 generator and my stuff just would not work.

Congestive heart failure and COPD suck also!

[onenote]

37. "Recruit them" how?

Offer cash inducements to move? Who is coming up with the cash? How much? Jobs, housing, all that other fun stuff?

By the way, a natural "migration" to red states is occurring. Take a look at the population growth rate list. The top of it is very red.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population_growth_rate

[Power 2 the People]

38. You would need a company like Amazon to do it.

Move the campus to an area bordering two red districts an hire millennials,minorities and new immigrants to live and work in the area. Make election day a paid day off only for those who bring proof they voted.

A task for progressive billionaires.

[Blue_true]

100. Amazon having a massive operation in Florida, my area of it would be nice.

And it could well happen one day. Bezos has the space operation southeast of us. A big natural products Amazon owned company in my area would tip the area to solid blue (it's getting close, I think Hillary got 43% in my county, and beat Trump well in Alachua County)

[DBoon]

43. I would hate to find bullet holes in my prius

Especially before I'd had time to change out the California plates.

[MineralMan]

44. Are you a potential candidate for this proposal?

Personally, I would not move to any solid red state, due to the existing politics, laws, and conditions in them. Nope. Not a chance.

So, do you live in a populous blue state? If so, when do you plan to move?

[0rganism]

46. dunno, that's a pretty big ask

gotta uproot the family, migrate into hostile territory, try to find a decent job to replace whatever you're leaving behind, find a school that doesn't teach creationism in biology class, and these states are low population for reasons anyway.

would you do it?

[redstatebluegirl]

47. I would NEVER tell my friends up north to move here to Oklahoma.

Misery does not want company.

[Chickensoup]

51. I like ur thinking ...when do I move?

[LisaM]

53. The tech companies should be doing just this.

I live in Amazonia, fka Seattle, and frankly, I don't know why all the people moving here even want to be here. With the urban blight that's been created (empty storefronts, only one bookstore that sells new books, even fewer coffee shops than there used to be....), the tech workforce which, to their credit, tends to vote blue, could be anywhere. They may as well be in Laramie or Nashville or Boise as here, and they could make the government far more reflective of the population.

Heck, I was in Detroit over the weekend, and it was devastating to come back here. I'm older now, but given the right circumstances, I'd move to Detroit in a heartbeat.

[Blue_true]

102. The second term Mayor in democratic Detroit seem to have it moving.

After years of so-so leadership, it got a guy who was ethical and knows how to improve that city.

Detroit and Cleveland are beautiful cities, not eastcoast or WestCoast or Chicago big, but has plenty for an urban environment loving person.

[LisaM]

126. Yes.

Detroit was hopping on Friday night.

[Bettie]

54. Most truly red states

are not pleasant to live in.

[maveric]

55. I'm staying here in CA.

Sanity.

[greymattermom]

56. Build a retirement community in warm region of Florida, Georgia or Arizona

Like the villages but for us. Call it “The Community”

[marlakay]

57. Thats what would bring people on the left

A whole community, with shared gardens, great library, classes for enrichment like Olli classes, swim center, huge gym, concert area for music and plays. And good medical and healthy food stores. Great coffee shops, restaurants, etc.

[onenote]

95. There already are all kinds of retirement communities in Florida and Arizona.

[MountCleaners]

58. Indiana is one state I'd like to turn blue

I live in the Chicago area, one mile from the state line. I grew up here and always liked Indiana better, even though it is more conservative. Northwest Indiana is less conservative than the rest of the state. I really like it over there, the houses are cheaper and the food is good. I like the people and their sense of humor. I'm always trying to convince people to think about moving down to Indiana, you can be a half an hour from downtown Chicago and live in a big house for next to nothing. Everything is cheaper. You're closer to the beach than you are in the Chicago suburbs. If we can get enough people to move to northern Indiana maybe we can grow our economy and turn Indiana blue.

[msongs]

60. entirely doable for low pop states like ND, SD, WY. a few 100K voters moved would get

us 6 senate seats

[muriel_volestrangler]

88. Back in the 90s, I heard it was estimated you had to spend $100k to create a job

so after inflation, we'll call it $200k now, and 200,000 jobs needed. That's $40 billion to flip one state. Who's paying? Do you think people would notice and get a bit pissed off an oligarch was purchasing their state?

[Ligyron]

64. Better yet, move to Florida and turn it blue.

More pull politically if we did. More electoral votes, no income tax, still nice beaches and the winters are beautiful. Fishing, scuba, boating. could do worse...

[Codeine]

75. I'm willing to bet displaced Puerto Ricans

have already tipped that purple state blue.

[Ligyron]

111. Sure hope so!

We'll find out in Nov.

[Blue_true]

104. Florida is headed blue. My county is pale red, but the trend is purple soon.

What we need is one or two tech businesses here. I think that will happen within the next 1-4 years. I know one small tech startup here that has a good product plan and realistic goals, and it's run by progressives.

[Ligyron]

114. They just ran Scott out of a eatery in Venice.

Red Tide Scott.

[Blue_true]

116. Red Tide Scott. We need to pin that on his ass.

The sugar industry is significant in Florida, but he allowed it to ignore environmental rule, over use fertilizer.

[Vinca]

66. Okay, but anyone moving to Mississippi or Alabama needs to get a million dollar bonus.

[treestar]

67. would be better to move them to swing states

Maybe blue-ize some of those.

[SMC22307]

97. That's the answer. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan...

the big three we lost in 2016. Throw in beautiful North Carolina, too.

[Blue_true]

106. Florida, 20+ electoral vote, now purple. nt

[Ilsa]

80. A lot of people who work in Denver live in Wyoming,

from what I've heard. They have long commutes, but prefer Wyoming because there is no state income tax. Of course, maybe they are republicans anyway.

Honestly, I don't see how anyone can make this happen.

[vi5]

81. For years, young people and liberals I know have been moving.....

.....to places like NC and Colorado, and while those places aren't what I would call DEEP red, they are still despite at this point decades of migration very much Republican run and dominated.

[Awsi Dooger]

83. This would be hilarious...like a ponzi scheme in reverse

First people get screwed.

I can just imagine let's say the early wave of 100 new settlers per red state. They get registered, extremely motivated, dressed in blue, cast their votes, and wait in excitement for the early returns.

And here comes the avalanche.

What happened?

Our great plan

We left Palo Alto for this

[JI7]

87. stupid idea. People live where they do for reasons like work, family, school and many other things

the ones who could afford to just move to a red state to try to turn it blue live are not going to give up what they have in the more expensive parts of the blue states they live in to live in red states.

[Blue_true]

90. You couldn't pay me enough.

Plus, I have a business in Florida, and we have a long way to go to take it back from repugs.

[The Genealogist]

91. It is bad enough living in a relatively higher population red state

I don't think I could stomach an even more back-assward state. When I would drive between Florida and Missouri, when I lived down there, it literally gave me the creeps driving through Mississippi and Alabama. Arkansas's not much better, neither is Oklahoma or Kansas.

No, Missouri's bad enough for me, thanks.

[trixie2]

101. No way!

I'm sorry but the south scares the hell out of me.

[tirebiter]

103. Name a red state with good surf

I've got priorities.

[Codeine]

112. Or a vegan taco truck in Wyoming!

Shit, one doubts there’s even a decent salad bar.

[Blue_true]

117. Southern Alabama, Georgia, Texas. nt

[Hekate]

105. Not just no, but hell no. Just get the DNC to follow Dean's 50 State Strategy. nt

[Tommy_Carcetti]

108. Okay, um...how?

I hope you’re not thinking for 2018 because many states have already had a cutoff on registration.

Hell, even for 2020 it’s a crazy task.

You would need jobs, housing, moving expenses.

Chalk this up with a redo election for 2016 as to things that will never, ever, ever happen. At least not as a planned operation.

[Codeine]

115. States where people still smoke indoors

and the only store is Walmart! What a delightful future lies ahead for our intrepid Red State colonists.

[Generic Brad]

119. Hell, I'm doing my part

After a lifetime in blue states (Minnesota, Hawaii, California) I was registered in Kansas for the last election. This year I moved to Tennessee.

I am doing my best to assist.

[ecstatic]

122. You'd probably have to pay people.

There's no way in hell I would voluntarily move to any of those states.

[jayschool2013]

128. Last year I moved from Boulder to Iowa City

Living like a king in the bluest part of Iowa. State is slowly returning to purple. Come join us!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

130. You could not pay me enough money to move to a deep red state.

I chose to move to New Mexico ten years ago and hope to remain here the rest of my life. Clear skies. Do any of you know that right now, just after sunset you can see FOUR planets in the night sky? Venus, Jupiter, Saturn, and Mars. Very visible. At least they are here at 7,000 feet and with consistently clear skies.

I hate humidity, so I won't voluntarily move to any state in the deep south, or most of the midwest. Snow and winter doesn't scare me at all. But the kind of heat they get in southern Arizona, no thank you. I have lived in both Phoenix and Tucson at different times, and I would never voluntarily return.

So where are you planning to relocate to?