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underpants

(182,922 posts)
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 04:45 PM Sep 2018

Espionage? No word on why a solar observatory in New Mexico was closed.

Remote solar observatory remains closed after mysterious evacuation

Nobody is quite sure what’s going on at the Sunspot Solar Observatory in New Mexico, which was quickly and mysteriously evacuated on 6 September amid reports of a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) probe, and has remained closed. The manager of the mountaintop site, the Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy (AURA), today released a statement saying the observatory “will remain closed until further notice due to an ongoing security concern.”

In the wake of the shutdown, Otero County Sheriff Benny House told the Alamogordo Daily News: “The FBI were up there. What their purpose was nobody will say.” Facility employees are similarly in the dark. “We have absolutely no idea what is going on,” says Alisdair Davey, a data center scientist at the National Solar Observatory (NSO). “As in truly nothing, which in itself is just weird.” Messages left with the FBI field office in Albuquerque were not returned.

All buildings on the site have been shut down and the staff of approximately 12 have been sent home, says James McAteer, Sunspot director and an NMSU astronomer in Las Cruces. He says shutdown events are not unusual, because remote mountaintop facilities can be closed due to sewage leaks, downed power lines, or snowstorms. But the Apache Point Observatory, located slightly lower down on the same mountain, remains open.

The U.S. Postal Service (USPS), which has a small office on the same site as Sunspot that mostly handles mail deliveries for the observatory, has also been shut down, though spokespeople for the office say the post office being closed is incidental. “Whatever’s occurring there has nothing to do with us,” says Rod Spurgeon, the USPS spokesperson for the New Mexico area. Spurgeon downplayed the idea that the incident could involve any sort of mailed biohazard or bioterror. “I haven’t heard of anything like that going on,” he says. Liz Davis, a public information officer at the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, which handles law enforcement for the USPS, confirms there is “no criminal activity, which is what Postal Inspection Service would be dealing with.”

The Sunspot observatory on Sacramento Peak overlooks Holloman Air Force Base and an observer could potentially see out to the U.S. Army’s White Sands Missile Test range. That has raised questions about possible espionage. “New Mexico is a center of national-security-related science, and for that reason it has also been a prominent venue for foreign espionage,” says Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists’ Project on Government Secrecy. “Spies go where the secrets are, and there are plenty of secrets in New Mexico.”


http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/09/remote-solar-observatory-remains-closed-after-mysterious-evacuation

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Espionage? No word on why a solar observatory in New Mexico was closed. (Original Post) underpants Sep 2018 OP
Bed bugs blogslut Sep 2018 #1
Live feeds of the sun from others shut down too! There's something they don't want us to see! Baclava Sep 2018 #2
LOL, fake news! Nt USALiberal Sep 2018 #8
Moon transit video, alien moon base they edited out we weren't supposed to see? Baclava Sep 2018 #9
Those sites go down all the time. Nt USALiberal Sep 2018 #10
Soho is up CabalPowered Sep 2018 #12
They're coming for our wimmin! Baclava Sep 2018 #13
I just put my wacky hat on. yonder Sep 2018 #3
. Separation Sep 2018 #4
Back around the beginning of the year PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2018 #5
Just spoke with astronomer son. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2018 #6
Special Agent Mulder was seen exiting the building... KWR65 Sep 2018 #7
Homer is no Papadopoulos underpants Sep 2018 #14
There are 100s of scientists who would have figured a critical issue by now.... USALiberal Sep 2018 #11
 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
2. Live feeds of the sun from others shut down too! There's something they don't want us to see!
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 05:17 PM
Sep 2018

The Very Latest SOHO Images

ANNOUNCEMENT: We are updating the code infrastructure that provides access to SOHO data, images and movies. We expect the work to take several weeks.

https://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data...me-images.html

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Webcam located at Mauna Kea observatory at the University of Hawaii Hilo - offline

Webcam from the Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope observatory in Hawaii - offline

Webcam at JAT OBservatory in Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania - offline

BRT Tenerife Telescope Webcam located in Spain - "router failure"

CabalPowered

(12,690 posts)
12. Soho is up
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:32 AM
Sep 2018
https://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/newsite/images.html

Those other sites go down all the time. There's no coincidence. Thats actually a Q-nut post that's been copied and pasted everywhere.

yonder

(9,679 posts)
3. I just put my wacky hat on.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 06:56 PM
Sep 2018

Planet X (Nibiru) has just emerged from the opposite side of the sun, will be visible in a few weeks and its highly elliptical orbit, made unstable by its proximity to the sun, is calculated to intersect the Earth's orbit resulting in cataclysm. Our solar system, not to mention our Earth will be forever changed and, impact or not, life as we've known it, will not be possible.

In order to protect civilized order for as long as possible, governments worldwide are attempting to keep this event top secret, until our fate ultimately becomes obvious.

more here:
https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/hypothetical-planet-x/in-depth/

wacky hat off.

I'm going with the potential espionage angle.

But you never know.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,902 posts)
5. Back around the beginning of the year
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 07:07 PM
Sep 2018

the visitor's center at Sunspot was closed. No reason seems to have been given. When I learned about that I assumed it was probably a funding issue, but closing the observatory itself seems strange.

I'll have to see if My Son the Astronomer knows about this. Back when he was an undergrad he did use some date from Sunspot in his research.

Oh, and the Solar Observatory at Kitt Peak outside of Tucson is also closed temporarily, according to the website.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,902 posts)
6. Just spoke with astronomer son.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 11:52 PM
Sep 2018

He said that the only thing he's heard that seems remotely credible is some sort of threat.

Which strikes me as only remotely credible, because if one was threatened, why close them all? And it strikes me as beyond weird that someone would threaten solar observatories.

Although I don't think like a terrorist, so what do I know?

underpants

(182,922 posts)
14. Homer is no Papadopoulos
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 03:22 PM
Sep 2018



Mulder: All right, Homer. We want you to re-create your every move the night you saw this alien.
Homer: Well, the evening began at the gentleman’s club, where we were discussing Wittgenstein over a game of backgammon.
Scully: Mr. Simpson, it’s a felony to lie to the F.B.I.
Homer: We were sitting in Barney’s car eating packets of mustard. You happy?

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
11. There are 100s of scientists who would have figured a critical issue by now....
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:02 AM
Sep 2018

And would of released it.

Nothing to seemhere.

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