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kpete

(72,022 posts)
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 03:21 PM Sep 2018

Stephen King: IF Susan Collins votes to confirm Kavanaugh & IF she runs for re-election-2 bigs ifs..

@StephenKing

IF Susan Collins votes to confirm Kavanaugh, and IF she runs for re-election—two bigs ifs—she will be defeated. It would be unwise for anyone to mistake how angry most Americans are at the way this is being railroaded through.



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Stephen King: IF Susan Collins votes to confirm Kavanaugh & IF she runs for re-election-2 bigs ifs.. (Original Post) kpete Sep 2018 OP
Agreed. Nt BootinUp Sep 2018 #1
Stephen is right. roamer65 Sep 2018 #2
Perhaps Mr. King will run? maveric Sep 2018 #17
KR Me. Sep 2018 #3
K&R sheshe2 Sep 2018 #4
I'll bet he'd put some money behind that wryter2000 Sep 2018 #5
And since when are constituent voices synonymous with bribery? lunatica Sep 2018 #6
Didn't she just marry a fellow a few years ago luvtheGWN Sep 2018 #8
Yep... IthinkThereforeIAM Sep 2018 #11
I'm sure it wasn't for the sex. Meadowoak Sep 2018 #27
Stephen is Bayard Sep 2018 #7
He could always write a book about... IthinkThereforeIAM Sep 2018 #9
The other senator in Maine just said he is voting NO. BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #10
LOL ! n/t jaysunb Sep 2018 #26
wonder if that would work with Rafael Cubanadian and Cornyn here in TX? yellowdogintexas Sep 2018 #38
Call the two Senators in Texas. BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #39
I suspect she realizes qazplm135 Sep 2018 #12
This is just a hunch DFW Sep 2018 #13
That would be my bet elmac Sep 2018 #15
there is a 99.99999% chance that Kavanaugh will be confirmed elmac Sep 2018 #14
It the steady drip of nasty information about Kavanaugh becomes a steady flow, maybe not DFW Sep 2018 #16
ain't over 'til it's over Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2018 #30
Unless that steady drip has something earth shattering fallout87 Sep 2018 #32
K&R... spanone Sep 2018 #18
Any Senators who votes him in will see duforsure Sep 2018 #19
Senator Collins and Lisa Murkowski INdemo Sep 2018 #20
What leverage do we have against a red state Dem? RiverStone Sep 2018 #22
The Red State Democrats were responsible for voting to INdemo Sep 2018 #31
Not if Putin promised her a win in the election. C Moon Sep 2018 #21
Hasn't Maine been embarrassed by their politicians enough ? Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2018 #23
This is going to be the GOP's ACA. We paid dearly for the way that was ultimately passed... MadDAsHell Sep 2018 #24
We lost becasue Democrats shied away from Obama in 2010 INdemo Sep 2018 #33
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2018 #37
but I don't think we rammed this through, at all.. There were 100's of town hall meetings all that secondwind Sep 2018 #35
America's Bitter Pill has a lot of great insight into how it was passed. MadDAsHell Sep 2018 #40
K&R Scurrilous Sep 2018 #25
Which is irrelevant quakerboy Sep 2018 #28
If she doesn't vote for him, that means she's leaving politics or the Repub Party. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #29
She's a coward so won't run for Senate again. lark Sep 2018 #34
republican enablers of Dirty Donny & KGOP cronies will... Achilleaze Sep 2018 #36

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
8. Didn't she just marry a fellow a few years ago
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 03:50 PM
Sep 2018

who is quite wealthy, and with dubious connections that would basically mean she has to abide by Dolt's wishes? I'm betting she has no intention of running again.

BigmanPigman

(51,636 posts)
10. The other senator in Maine just said he is voting NO.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 03:55 PM
Sep 2018

Sen. King is an Indep. and announced this last week. I called him to thank him on Thurs. and have called Collins several times. Next week I am calling RW deep red, pseudo Christian senators and pretend I am a die hard Evangelical who believes "Kavanaugh is a sinner in God's eyes and my fellow Christians in my community are in agreement that he does not belong on the court due so his un-Christian behavior". I know many of them are hypocrites who "really don't care" so I need to play that card for them.

yellowdogintexas

(22,274 posts)
38. wonder if that would work with Rafael Cubanadian and Cornyn here in TX?
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 03:45 PM
Sep 2018

Probably not since I have written and called many times only to receive a generic thank you email.

BigmanPigman

(51,636 posts)
39. Call the two Senators in Texas.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:37 PM
Sep 2018

They both will get to vote. I call reps in all the states and both parties all the time. Call the members on the Judiciary Comm. too. Especially Grassely and Hatch. With midterms coming up they need to be concerned about reelections for the GOP. Here is their contact info...
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/about/members

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
12. I suspect she realizes
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 04:04 PM
Sep 2018

the jig is up and she isn't running again...or will maybe try and run for governor after laying low for a couple of years.

DFW

(54,445 posts)
13. This is just a hunch
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 04:08 PM
Sep 2018

But my guess is that if Collins votes to confirm, instead of running for another term in 2020, once the noise starts to fade, she retires with a whole bunch of money thrown at her from some fictitious "job" that keeps her living in a style she would like to get accustomed to.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
14. there is a 99.99999% chance that Kavanaugh will be confirmed
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 04:14 PM
Sep 2018

and it wouldn't surprise me if one or two Dems vote with the fascists. Its just the way it is. We were warned years ago that the fascists would load the court with rightwing nutjobs just as soon as the could, and they will. Elections have consequences.

DFW

(54,445 posts)
16. It the steady drip of nasty information about Kavanaugh becomes a steady flow, maybe not
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 04:20 PM
Sep 2018

It ain't over 'til it's over.............

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,447 posts)
30. ain't over 'til it's over
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:51 AM
Sep 2018

Thanks for pointing that out.

It surprises me that so many on DU consider Kavanaugh a done deal before it's a done deal, even as the drip of information continues and as the disfavor by citizens increases. And then there are DU'ers like BigmanPigman above -- gives me hope!

The biggest weapon we have is noise. Not all GOPers are scurrying off to retirement. They need to understand how pissed off so many people are about this process.

Also:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211102387
Senate DC phone directory (202)224-3121.

 

fallout87

(819 posts)
32. Unless that steady drip has something earth shattering
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 11:32 AM
Sep 2018

in the next 4 days, he will be confirmed. The vote is on the 20th.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
19. Any Senators who votes him in will see
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 05:53 PM
Sep 2018

The 75% of the American people against his nomination will react harshly against them in Nov..

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
20. Senator Collins and Lisa Murkowski
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 06:05 PM
Sep 2018

are not the only Senators we have to be concerned with.

There are Senators Donnelly, Doug Jones and Manchin.
I called Senator Donnelly's office voiced my no opinion and got a reply (email) with a long drawn out explanation of his interview with the nominee and I took his explanation as a Yes...Hope I am wrong

Red State Democrats are more or less Republican Lites but we still need them to count toward a majority.
But its too damn bad a Senator will put politics before the good of our Country.
That is not what our Constitution is all about.
We all know They are Voices for the people. If their constituents as a Majority want a NO votes than they are committed to vote NO.

RiverStone

(7,228 posts)
22. What leverage do we have against a red state Dem?
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 07:51 PM
Sep 2018

If any of them vote for Kav and flip the court rjghtie crazy for a generation, I say they are gutless sellouts of their party and values.

Yet, besides being judged by history, what can we the people use as leverage other than shaming them as idiots?

I'd rather preserve integrity on the SCOTUS even if it costs them their election.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
31. The Red State Democrats were responsible for voting to
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 11:27 AM
Sep 2018

weaken the Dodd-Frank bill,voted no to allow much less expensive pharmaceuticals to be purchased from Canada and the list goes on.

They care about Republican votes in their State because they need them to win re-election..and don't care about losing the Democratic vote because they know Democrats will still vote for them because they want a majority.

C Moon

(12,221 posts)
21. Not if Putin promised her a win in the election.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 07:44 PM
Sep 2018

'Cuz we haven't done a DAMN thing about election irregularities, and how Trump was appointed president.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
24. This is going to be the GOP's ACA. We paid dearly for the way that was ultimately passed...
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 09:32 PM
Sep 2018

losing thousands of seats across the country, and then the Presidency, over the following 6-7 years.

If they ran this through, this will burn them even more.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
33. We lost becasue Democrats shied away from Obama in 2010
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 11:41 AM
Sep 2018

We lost because Democrats allowed the Republicans to blame the high deficits on them that was fueled by W's actions and was necessary for recovery.
Democrats have this thing about being bullied by Republicans and don't say a damn thing. They got the shit kicked out of them during 2010* with false accusations and they wanted to maintain the nice guy approach...
With this Kavanagh nomination though I see a lot of fight by some and others are just going through the motions
Republicans tells the same lie over and over and soon even some Democrats start believing them.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
35. but I don't think we rammed this through, at all.. There were 100's of town hall meetings all that
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 11:46 AM
Sep 2018

summer. And a lot of debate back and forth.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
40. America's Bitter Pill has a lot of great insight into how it was passed.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 06:12 PM
Sep 2018

Candidate Obama promised something like 8 times that all negotiations on the bill with the major players (pharma, hospitals, medical device makers, etc.) would be televised on CSPAN. In reality, the bill was formulated like every other bill: in closed door meetings with lobbyists. America’s Bitter Pill provides incredible insight into what giveaways were promised, what tit-tat arrangements were made, etc.

I’m not knocking the bill itself, but from a perspective of how it was formulated and who was promised what, the record shows that it’s not really up for argument that it was one of the least transparent bills of all time. And that burned us big time, especially after all the promises of “this bill will be different.”

quakerboy

(13,921 posts)
28. Which is irrelevant
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 03:18 AM
Sep 2018

The right is not planning to play fair by democratic rules or process

If they hold power, they will consolidate that power in any way necessary. Elections are already skewed about as far right as mathematical tricks will allow. Think what happens when the Supremes are unaccountably hard right.

Or in other words, they are betting on ending the rule of law and democracy, not on continuing to manage to game the system.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
29. If she doesn't vote for him, that means she's leaving politics or the Repub Party.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:13 AM
Sep 2018

Because she can't stay and not vote for him. There is no doubt the Republican Party has made this quite clear to its senators. You either vote for this chance-in-a-lifetime, or plan to leave the Party.

The Democratic leadership SHOULD likewise be that tough.

That's how important this is.

lark

(23,158 posts)
34. She's a coward so won't run for Senate again.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 11:44 AM
Sep 2018

She was expected to run for governor, but since she's getting paid off by Koch (or some other oligarch) she may not need to now. I hope she runs and gets defeated. I hope a relative or friend needs an abortion and can't get it because of Kavanaugh, she needs to feel the pain she's causing others with her repug party before country attitude.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
36. republican enablers of Dirty Donny & KGOP cronies will...
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 11:46 AM
Sep 2018

pay the price for their betrayal of American democracy...

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