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edhopper

(33,629 posts)
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 09:35 AM Sep 2018

Kavinaugh went to an All Boys High School

yet within hours of the allegations, they get 65 women who knew him 35 years ago to vouch for him.

Is anybody going to look at who these women are and how they knew him.

I doubt I could find that many women from high school that fast. And we had 2000 students.

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Kavinaugh went to an All Boys High School (Original Post) edhopper Sep 2018 OP
There was an all girls school down the road john657 Sep 2018 #1
still sounds like bs JI7 Sep 2018 #4
I went to an all boys Catholic high school wasupaloopa Sep 2018 #26
I'm saying the 65 women is bs JI7 Sep 2018 #30
This isn't just any Catholic Boy's School... Adrahil Sep 2018 #34
And 65 of them edhopper Sep 2018 #6
I have no idea, john657 Sep 2018 #7
Sorry John edhopper Sep 2018 #8
No problem. john657 Sep 2018 #10
Allow Me to Summarize... Roy Rolling Sep 2018 #23
It Suggests That Republicans Have Known About this Incident Before His Nomination Stallion Sep 2018 #24
They didn't get the 65 names "instantly"... ewagner Sep 2018 #25
Because they've had Schumer's and Leahy's and Feinstein's emails since who knows when! rgbecker Sep 2018 #32
...or... ewagner Sep 2018 #36
I went to an all boys HS with an all girls HS right next door. CincyDem Sep 2018 #13
I went to an all girls HS Sunsky Sep 2018 #19
+1 malthaussen Sep 2018 #29
Same, and I agree 100% nt DesertRat Sep 2018 #31
Hah! I went to an all girls school and we "mingled" too. I'm not believing this story at all. nt pnwmom Sep 2018 #44
Alternative Math? FM123 Sep 2018 #2
Maybe they could send the women and easy quiz. greymattermom Sep 2018 #3
Even if it's legit, they had the letter prepared long ago. Garrett78 Sep 2018 #5
Seriously MaryMagdaline Sep 2018 #9
very good point NJCher Sep 2018 #14
Ted Bundy Has Been Discribed as Charming, Articulate, and Intelligent erpowers Sep 2018 #43
Couple of things. lancelyons Sep 2018 #11
Sounds to me like they had this prepped and ready to go CanonRay Sep 2018 #12
Probably his Facebook friends like Olga, Tatianna,... Lucky Luciano Sep 2018 #15
Lyuba ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #46
bots spanone Sep 2018 #16
I went to an all boys Catholic high school in the '70's. A local all girls Catholic High was our mulsh Sep 2018 #17
I went to an all girls catholic school and hardly knew any boys at the all-boys school. pnwmom Sep 2018 #45
I'm the same age tom_kelly Sep 2018 #18
The RepubliCONS also have letters waiting saying what a great little girls' coach he is Farmer-Rick Sep 2018 #20
the timing is the issue.. AZ8theist Sep 2018 #21
Yeah, everyone keeps a list of 65 people they didn't try to rape leftstreet Sep 2018 #22
So let's get these 65 women to Washington and subject them to Congressional scrutiny Mr. Ected Sep 2018 #27
Their testimony would all be the same: rusty fender Sep 2018 #41
I'm Part of the "Private High School Socially Isolated Club" too Stallion Sep 2018 #28
Hey everyone edhopper Sep 2018 #33
Ted Bundy was a likeable guy too. nolabear Sep 2018 #35
Good point, edhopper! pazzyanne Sep 2018 #37
Well, with any luck there's a women's prison PCIntern Sep 2018 #38
Before I left for Spain, my school was down the road from Georgetown Prep DFW Sep 2018 #39
Crisis actors. gibraltar72 Sep 2018 #40
Could Not Get 65 People To Vouch For Me erpowers Sep 2018 #42
Has anyone bothered to do background checks on these women? ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #47
One thing I heard is that these 65 had been gathered over time... LAS14 Sep 2018 #48
There's some very pleasant woman featured in Kavanaugh ads around here Rhiannon12866 Sep 2018 #49
 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
26. I went to an all boys Catholic high school
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 11:34 AM
Sep 2018

we had two all girl Catholic high schools in town. Other than going to class all dances, sports events, plays etc. were mixed.

JI7

(89,276 posts)
30. I'm saying the 65 women is bs
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 11:43 AM
Sep 2018

i would question someone who went to a coed bringing up that many to defend them also .

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
34. This isn't just any Catholic Boy's School...
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 12:04 PM
Sep 2018

This Georgetown Prep. It's very, VERY exclusive.

I knew a guy who went there with Kavanagh (said he's a dick). And they did not do intermixing except for dances.

edhopper

(33,629 posts)
6. And 65 of them
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 09:44 AM
Sep 2018

remembered him enough from these "socials" to vouch for his character?

Strains credibility.

Let's see how many of these women are related to GOP partisans.

edhopper

(33,629 posts)
8. Sorry John
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 09:48 AM
Sep 2018

I wasn't attacking what you said.
I was just expanding further on it.
It was a question in general, I didn't think you had an answer to it.

Roy Rolling

(6,941 posts)
23. Allow Me to Summarize...
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 11:23 AM
Sep 2018

The Kavanaugh defense relies on an all-girls high school nearby.

It smells, and for another reason. Are the only people acquainted with Kavanaugh from his highschool days women from that ONE all-girls school?

What Kavanaugh handlers view as a lock-tight defense--- "girls at another highschool say he isn't a rapist"---leaves two giant openings for the Kavanaugh accuser:

1. (The obvious) how the fuck did team Kavanaugh instantly locate 65 women from an adjacent highschool decades ago to testify he never raped him? (Methinks thou doth protest too much)
2. Does this mean that all other highschool girls in the area who DIDN'T sign the letter think he's a rapist and refused to sign?

Subtle logic is a powerful thing and often undermines the very argument being made by Kavanaugh political bosses.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
25. They didn't get the 65 names "instantly"...
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 11:30 AM
Sep 2018

The Repubs knew this allegation was out there and planned their counter-attack (probably) weeks ago...

They've know this for a long time.

rgbecker

(4,834 posts)
32. Because they've had Schumer's and Leahy's and Feinstein's emails since who knows when!
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 11:58 AM
Sep 2018

Just saying.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
36. ...or...
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 12:24 PM
Sep 2018

perhaps this allegation isn't new to Kavenaugh and his family and they decided on a strategy to kill it before the nomination was even announced..

or...

you could be right

CincyDem

(6,396 posts)
13. I went to an all boys HS with an all girls HS right next door.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 10:13 AM
Sep 2018


Close enough that the two athletic fields shared a fence and our HS Band had 3-4 girls who walked over during the day for band practice.

Agree that it strains credibility for 65 women to know this guy well enough from HS to be willing to jump into a national level fray at the drop of a hat.

I haven't checked the list but I'll bet Meredith McIver's name will be on it.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
19. I went to an all girls HS
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 10:56 AM
Sep 2018

An all boys HS was in very close proximity and let's just say, the well-known boys were not the ones known for their good character.

pnwmom

(108,997 posts)
44. Hah! I went to an all girls school and we "mingled" too. I'm not believing this story at all. nt
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 05:43 PM
Sep 2018

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
3. Maybe they could send the women and easy quiz.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 09:39 AM
Sep 2018

What sport did he play?
Did he have a nickname?
Did he play a musical instrument, and if so which one?

Things you might know if you actually knew the guy well enough to know about his sex life.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
5. Even if it's legit, they had the letter prepared long ago.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 09:41 AM
Sep 2018

They knew this allegation might be made, which means they're lying when they suggest this is a last second allegation that's completely out of the blue.

And women saying nice things doesn't cancel out an attempted rape allegation. Imagine if Ted Bundy's defense was that he hadn't killed 99.9% of the women in the world.

NJCher

(35,750 posts)
14. very good point
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 10:30 AM
Sep 2018

there is no way in the world that number of names could be gathered in such short time.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
43. Ted Bundy Has Been Discribed as Charming, Articulate, and Intelligent
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 05:39 PM
Sep 2018

You are right about Ted Bundy. There is a chance that Ted Bundy could have gotten a few people to stand up in court and claim that he was a nice guy. That would not take away from what he confessed to doing. As you said, just because you can get people to claim you were nice to them does not mean you did not hurt anyone else. Bad people do not always seem, or act like bad people.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
11. Couple of things.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 09:51 AM
Sep 2018

How in the world did the GOP know DiFi has this info and was going to release it..

They must have known months ago where they had time to get these signatures.

Why didnt DiFi release this info sooner? It seems like she might have error-ed on this.

Lucky Luciano

(11,261 posts)
15. Probably his Facebook friends like Olga, Tatianna,...
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 10:40 AM
Sep 2018

...Natalya, Alina, Alexandrina, Valentina, Viktoriya, Galina...

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
17. I went to an all boys Catholic high school in the '70's. A local all girls Catholic High was our
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 10:55 AM
Sep 2018

"sister" school. Of course I also had a lot of friends in co-ed public schools back then.

AS Charlie Pierce points out in his column on the subject from yesterday:

"I, for example, went to an all-boys Catholic high school, just as Kavanaugh did. I can say with perfect honesty that I didn't know 65 girls while I was in high school, let alone 65 who would know me enough to vouch for my gentlemanliness four decades later. "

ON facebook I'm a member of a couple of large groups of locals who grew up together. I'm constantly surprised who remembers who and what happened long ago but I'm never surprised at the corrections.

pnwmom

(108,997 posts)
45. I went to an all girls catholic school and hardly knew any boys at the all-boys school.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 05:45 PM
Sep 2018

None of my friends did either.

tom_kelly

(962 posts)
18. I'm the same age
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 10:55 AM
Sep 2018

as him and was very social in HS and continue to be in life. There’s no way I’d be able to get near 65 women to accurately speak to my character.

Farmer-Rick

(10,216 posts)
20. The RepubliCONS also have letters waiting saying what a great little girls' coach he is
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 11:10 AM
Sep 2018

And how much those parents trust him to play with, I mean coach, their young daughters on not just 1 but 2 basketball teams. Because he has so much time on his hands.

AZ8theist

(5,506 posts)
21. the timing is the issue..
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 11:17 AM
Sep 2018

To produce 65 women from his high school years to vouch for his character IMMEDIATELY after the sexual misconduct became news demonstrates that Grassley and the rest of the Repukes HAD FOREKNOWLEDGE of the issue.

And they tried to keep it hidden.

Treasonous pigs, every single one of them. (my apologies to swine..)

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
27. So let's get these 65 women to Washington and subject them to Congressional scrutiny
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 11:34 AM
Sep 2018

If Kavanaugh's veracity is hinging on these women's endorsements of his character, let's hear it in person, and let's find out how and when they were approached, and by whom, and how they came to know him then, and how, 40 years later, they continue to carry such clear details about him, and how 65 women may have obliquely believed him to be upstanding when it only takes one woman to disprove the statements of casual acquaintances.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
41. Their testimony would all be the same:
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 02:15 PM
Sep 2018

Brett Kavanaugh was the kindest, bravest, most honorable man I’ve ever known.”

From The Manchurian Candidate, for those who might not have seen the movie

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
28. I'm Part of the "Private High School Socially Isolated Club" too
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 11:36 AM
Sep 2018

couldn't concentrate my first semester of College because there were GIRLS in my classroom!!!

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
35. Ted Bundy was a likeable guy too.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 12:10 PM
Sep 2018

I smell, at best, a bunch of women who were asked long ago if they had words of support for a guy who was up for SCOTUS and they found a bunch who said “Oh yeah! I knew him! Great guy!” because now they’re important. They can play the best game of Six Degrees ever.

DFW

(54,445 posts)
39. Before I left for Spain, my school was down the road from Georgetown Prep
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 12:38 PM
Sep 2018

Sixty five different women in four years of high school harassed?

No sweat.

Sixty-five women met him and liked him enough to have a positive memory of him? Less likely. Those were not nice guys to be around.

Georgetown Prep was where all the Catholic elite of our (D.C. in those days) area went, and it was a day school as well as a boarding school. Kavanaugh, being a local, was probably a day student, which meant he had plenty of time in four years to harass a hundred women. Charm was not their strong suit. Those guys concentrated on macho athletic teams at least as much as academics, and the ones we actually met fit the stereotype perfectly. Of course, back then, it wasn't called "harassment." It was called "just missed scoring," and of course the stories got passed around. They had plenty of "socials," as well as private parties around NW D.C. and suburban Maryland.

Now, Kavanaugh would have been between ten and fifteen years after me, but I doubt attitudes changed much. If you went to that school, you were protected. Rich and influential alumni made sure their students could do no wrong, at least in the public eye. They valued appearance and discipline. Whatever you did under the radar was your own business, as long as it stayed that way.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
42. Could Not Get 65 People To Vouch For Me
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 05:24 PM
Sep 2018

I too probably could not find 65 people to vouch for me during my high school years. The only chance I would have would be the fact that I was a part of a high school organization. So, maybe someone could find 65 people from that group who would claim I was a good person. I am not sure I could find 65 people to vouch for me even if people I met after high school were counted.

Also, if he went to an all boys high school how much interaction did he have with these 65 women? Just because he did not mistreat them does not mean he did not mistreat any other woman. I imagine that many of the worse members of the KKK were really nice to other white people and their friends and family. That does not mean they did not do great harm to black people. Furthermore, how many times has a serial killer been caught and the people around him have claimed that he was the nicest person on the planet and no one would have suspected him of hurting people? That does not mean he did not hurt people. Even if a person could get 65 people to claim that that person treated them with respect that does not mean the person in question did not treat others in a disrespectful manner.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
47. Has anyone bothered to do background checks on these women?
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 05:51 PM
Sep 2018

I would think some investigative reporter would try to contact some of them and dig a little deeper.

Are they fake?
If they are not fake, how well did they know Kavanaugh?
How long did they know him?
Did anyone wearing a red tie bribe them to say wonderful things?

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
48. One thing I heard is that these 65 had been gathered over time...
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 06:03 PM
Sep 2018

...because he's been through so many confirmation hearings. Just info. Not meant to argue a point.

Rhiannon12866

(206,157 posts)
49. There's some very pleasant woman featured in Kavanaugh ads around here
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 08:39 PM
Sep 2018

She claims to have known him for 35 years and goes on about his virtues. I really don't understand the point unless they expect upstate New Yorkers to give our senators a call in support of him based on her word.

And I went to an all girls school, though we had a "brother" school with some coed classes. But I couldn't name 65 boys I knew even back then, let alone years later.

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