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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKavinaugh went to an All Boys High School
yet within hours of the allegations, they get 65 women who knew him 35 years ago to vouch for him.
Is anybody going to look at who these women are and how they knew him.
I doubt I could find that many women from high school that fast. And we had 2000 students.
john657
(1,058 posts)they used to intermingle during social events.
JI7
(89,276 posts)wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)we had two all girl Catholic high schools in town. Other than going to class all dances, sports events, plays etc. were mixed.
JI7
(89,276 posts)i would question someone who went to a coed bringing up that many to defend them also .
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)This Georgetown Prep. It's very, VERY exclusive.
I knew a guy who went there with Kavanagh (said he's a dick). And they did not do intermixing except for dances.
edhopper
(33,629 posts)remembered him enough from these "socials" to vouch for his character?
Strains credibility.
Let's see how many of these women are related to GOP partisans.
john657
(1,058 posts)I'm just answering your original post.
edhopper
(33,629 posts)I wasn't attacking what you said.
I was just expanding further on it.
It was a question in general, I didn't think you had an answer to it.
john657
(1,058 posts)I didn't take your post as an attack on me at all.
Have a wonderful weekend.
Roy Rolling
(6,941 posts)The Kavanaugh defense relies on an all-girls high school nearby.
It smells, and for another reason. Are the only people acquainted with Kavanaugh from his highschool days women from that ONE all-girls school?
What Kavanaugh handlers view as a lock-tight defense--- "girls at another highschool say he isn't a rapist"---leaves two giant openings for the Kavanaugh accuser:
1. (The obvious) how the fuck did team Kavanaugh instantly locate 65 women from an adjacent highschool decades ago to testify he never raped him? (Methinks thou doth protest too much)
2. Does this mean that all other highschool girls in the area who DIDN'T sign the letter think he's a rapist and refused to sign?
Subtle logic is a powerful thing and often undermines the very argument being made by Kavanaugh political bosses.
Stallion
(6,476 posts)ewagner
(18,964 posts)The Repubs knew this allegation was out there and planned their counter-attack (probably) weeks ago...
They've know this for a long time.
rgbecker
(4,834 posts)Just saying.
ewagner
(18,964 posts)perhaps this allegation isn't new to Kavenaugh and his family and they decided on a strategy to kill it before the nomination was even announced..
or...
you could be right
CincyDem
(6,396 posts)Close enough that the two athletic fields shared a fence and our HS Band had 3-4 girls who walked over during the day for band practice.
Agree that it strains credibility for 65 women to know this guy well enough from HS to be willing to jump into a national level fray at the drop of a hat.
I haven't checked the list but I'll bet Meredith McIver's name will be on it.
Sunsky
(1,737 posts)An all boys HS was in very close proximity and let's just say, the well-known boys were not the ones known for their good character.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)pnwmom
(108,997 posts)FM123
(10,054 posts)greymattermom
(5,754 posts)What sport did he play?
Did he have a nickname?
Did he play a musical instrument, and if so which one?
Things you might know if you actually knew the guy well enough to know about his sex life.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)They knew this allegation might be made, which means they're lying when they suggest this is a last second allegation that's completely out of the blue.
And women saying nice things doesn't cancel out an attempted rape allegation. Imagine if Ted Bundy's defense was that he hadn't killed 99.9% of the women in the world.
MaryMagdaline
(6,856 posts)Way to make the woman feel like a lone freak.
NJCher
(35,750 posts)there is no way in the world that number of names could be gathered in such short time.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)You are right about Ted Bundy. There is a chance that Ted Bundy could have gotten a few people to stand up in court and claim that he was a nice guy. That would not take away from what he confessed to doing. As you said, just because you can get people to claim you were nice to them does not mean you did not hurt anyone else. Bad people do not always seem, or act like bad people.
lancelyons
(988 posts)How in the world did the GOP know DiFi has this info and was going to release it..
They must have known months ago where they had time to get these signatures.
Why didnt DiFi release this info sooner? It seems like she might have error-ed on this.
CanonRay
(14,119 posts)knowing this shit was out there.
Lucky Luciano
(11,261 posts)...Natalya, Alina, Alexandrina, Valentina, Viktoriya, Galina...
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)spanone
(135,888 posts)mulsh
(2,959 posts)"sister" school. Of course I also had a lot of friends in co-ed public schools back then.
AS Charlie Pierce points out in his column on the subject from yesterday:
"I, for example, went to an all-boys Catholic high school, just as Kavanaugh did. I can say with perfect honesty that I didn't know 65 girls while I was in high school, let alone 65 who would know me enough to vouch for my gentlemanliness four decades later. "
ON facebook I'm a member of a couple of large groups of locals who grew up together. I'm constantly surprised who remembers who and what happened long ago but I'm never surprised at the corrections.
pnwmom
(108,997 posts)None of my friends did either.
tom_kelly
(962 posts)as him and was very social in HS and continue to be in life. Theres no way Id be able to get near 65 women to accurately speak to my character.
Farmer-Rick
(10,216 posts)And how much those parents trust him to play with, I mean coach, their young daughters on not just 1 but 2 basketball teams. Because he has so much time on his hands.
AZ8theist
(5,506 posts)To produce 65 women from his high school years to vouch for his character IMMEDIATELY after the sexual misconduct became news demonstrates that Grassley and the rest of the Repukes HAD FOREKNOWLEDGE of the issue.
And they tried to keep it hidden.
Treasonous pigs, every single one of them. (my apologies to swine..)
leftstreet
(36,116 posts)They knew
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)If Kavanaugh's veracity is hinging on these women's endorsements of his character, let's hear it in person, and let's find out how and when they were approached, and by whom, and how they came to know him then, and how, 40 years later, they continue to carry such clear details about him, and how 65 women may have obliquely believed him to be upstanding when it only takes one woman to disprove the statements of casual acquaintances.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)Brett Kavanaugh was the kindest, bravest, most honorable man Ive ever known.
From The Manchurian Candidate, for those who might not have seen the movie
Stallion
(6,476 posts)couldn't concentrate my first semester of College because there were GIRLS in my classroom!!!
edhopper
(33,629 posts)thanks for the Recs. Made it to "Trending Now".
nolabear
(41,991 posts)I smell, at best, a bunch of women who were asked long ago if they had words of support for a guy who was up for SCOTUS and they found a bunch who said Oh yeah! I knew him! Great guy! because now theyre important. They can play the best game of Six Degrees ever.
pazzyanne
(6,558 posts)I was thinking the same thing.
PCIntern
(25,595 posts)down the road from where these guys will all wind up.
DFW
(54,445 posts)Sixty five different women in four years of high school harassed?
No sweat.
Sixty-five women met him and liked him enough to have a positive memory of him? Less likely. Those were not nice guys to be around.
Georgetown Prep was where all the Catholic elite of our (D.C. in those days) area went, and it was a day school as well as a boarding school. Kavanaugh, being a local, was probably a day student, which meant he had plenty of time in four years to harass a hundred women. Charm was not their strong suit. Those guys concentrated on macho athletic teams at least as much as academics, and the ones we actually met fit the stereotype perfectly. Of course, back then, it wasn't called "harassment." It was called "just missed scoring," and of course the stories got passed around. They had plenty of "socials," as well as private parties around NW D.C. and suburban Maryland.
Now, Kavanaugh would have been between ten and fifteen years after me, but I doubt attitudes changed much. If you went to that school, you were protected. Rich and influential alumni made sure their students could do no wrong, at least in the public eye. They valued appearance and discipline. Whatever you did under the radar was your own business, as long as it stayed that way.
gibraltar72
(7,512 posts)erpowers
(9,350 posts)I too probably could not find 65 people to vouch for me during my high school years. The only chance I would have would be the fact that I was a part of a high school organization. So, maybe someone could find 65 people from that group who would claim I was a good person. I am not sure I could find 65 people to vouch for me even if people I met after high school were counted.
Also, if he went to an all boys high school how much interaction did he have with these 65 women? Just because he did not mistreat them does not mean he did not mistreat any other woman. I imagine that many of the worse members of the KKK were really nice to other white people and their friends and family. That does not mean they did not do great harm to black people. Furthermore, how many times has a serial killer been caught and the people around him have claimed that he was the nicest person on the planet and no one would have suspected him of hurting people? That does not mean he did not hurt people. Even if a person could get 65 people to claim that that person treated them with respect that does not mean the person in question did not treat others in a disrespectful manner.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I would think some investigative reporter would try to contact some of them and dig a little deeper.
Are they fake?
If they are not fake, how well did they know Kavanaugh?
How long did they know him?
Did anyone wearing a red tie bribe them to say wonderful things?
LAS14
(13,783 posts)...because he's been through so many confirmation hearings. Just info. Not meant to argue a point.
Rhiannon12866
(206,157 posts)She claims to have known him for 35 years and goes on about his virtues. I really don't understand the point unless they expect upstate New Yorkers to give our senators a call in support of him based on her word.
And I went to an all girls school, though we had a "brother" school with some coed classes. But I couldn't name 65 boys I knew even back then, let alone years later.