OMG. I just saw a woman being interviewed on CNN who is staying put with her 6 dogs

[catbyte]

even though she lives in an evacuation zone. She "feels safer" at home, even though relatives have offered to take in her and her dogs. She said that one of her dogs is afraid of men, so she doesn't want to "stress him out." Well, lady, what the fuck do you think hours and hours of hurricane force winds and possible drowning will do to him? And two of her rescue dogs are hurricane dogs.

She started out the interview lying, saying she didn't have the "resources" to evacuate, then two minutes later she said she had offers from relatives and friends to evacuate her and her dogs. She can risk her life if she wants, but it infuriates me that she's risking the lives of those helpless, innocent dogs because she doesn't want to evacuate.

I hate willful ignorance.

[JustAnotherGen]

1. I'll probably get hit with a wall of bricks for this

But she's an asshole for doing this to her dogs. I have ONE dog. ONE. A Maltese. They are going to be terrified in this situation. What she's doing is cruel to them.

At least send them off with people she knows.

And yes - if I was on the Titanic and was able to smuggle my dog on a boat - I would. Uncle Ruckus would be safe and I'd float on a door.

[catbyte]

2. +1000

[lagomorph777]

3. Having a lot of dogs in that situation is scary; if she has offers of help she's lucky.

And a fool to turn them down.

[JustAnotherGen]

8. Yep

Doesn't matter their weight - it's a lot to manage. I have one little 10 pound dog (okay 12 - but he's got a good treat face game) - I can hold him and calm him. There's no way she is going to soothe that dog.


Understand - when we got hit by the N'oreaster this year and lost power for a week - our painted back turtle had this crazy lady boiling water on the gas stove and mixing it with tank water (in and out for several days) to keep him warm.

Rescued turtle or Autocratic Little Monster -doesn't matter. They don't ask us to live with them - we make them live with us. We owe them.

[MissB]

13. No

You aren’t going to get hit by a wall of bricks for this stance. You are right.

[Solly Mack]

17. I agree.

Our storm preparations were made around our dogs. What their needs would be and how best to do it all quickly and safely.

[PJMcK]

39. She is an asshole for another reason

If she gets into real trouble, is she going to call for help? Are first responders supposed to risk their lives and equipment because she was too stupid to clear out? She's an idiot.

Unrelated thought: I wonder who she voted for...

[nolabear]

43. They won't. Winds over 50 mph they won't go out.

They make that well known. She and her dogs are on their own. If she doesn’t tie or trap the dogs they might have a chance. Her? Who knows.

[catbyte]

58. Even after the storm passes, first responders risk their lives rescuing people.

And how will she get 6 big dogs to safety? They all looked like big Labs & at least one GSD.

[JustAnotherGen]

47. Ditto nolabear

They won't. She's on her own.

[YessirAtsaFact]

4. I don't recommend anyone living in an evacuation zone not heeding that warning

The storm surge is going to wipe out a lot of homes on or near the water in NC and SC.

[gratuitous]

5. Everybody has a story or an excuse

I don't know all the stories or all the excuses. Some people may be crippled by agoraphobia, and leaving home is more terrifying to them than a massive Cat-3 hurricane. The devil one knows and all that. Others may be physically impaired and moving just isn't in the cards. They may be financially impaired - no car or other ready transport out of the danger zone - and too embarrassed to acknowledge that publicly. They'd rather take their chances with the storm than admit to everyone that they're broke.

As I said, I don't know anyone's particular individual circumstances.

What I do know, though, is that some folks with the ability to evacuate but who are on the fence about evacuating or staying may be persuaded to stay by watching others who are staying. "Maybe it's not that bad, after all." I'd prefer the news people not publicize the stories of people who are staying put.

[Elwood P Dowd]

6. Just watch that dog after this guy hits them....

[ADX]

9. Is that screen grab for real?

[Elwood P Dowd]

29. Don't know.

I saw it here on DU early this morning or last night and saved it.

[MiniMe]

14. That pic is just wrong

And a bit pornographic

[WhiteTara]

51. a bit? I'd say a lot

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

54. That is KELO in Sioux Falls...

... weather boy (he has a baby face) Brian Karstens. His profile page is down for some reason, ha... [link:https://www.keloland.com/|

[ADX]

7. Yeah, I saw that story...

...the dogs looked they were mad as fuck at her...

[Polly Hennessey]

10. My dog is terrified of thunder

and loud bangs. I would have evacuated three days ago. I feel for the dogs. I wish her luck, and lots of it.

[OnDoutside]

11. I'd imagine things are only going to get ruff.....

[PJMcK]

40. Grrr...

Quit yapping!

[world wide wally]

12. She has no fucking clue what an 83 foot wave is

[RhodeIslandOne]

22. Okay enough with the hyperbole

A 20 foot wave is bad enough to wipe out coastal areas, and those will occur at the shore.

83 foot waves are deep sea waves.

[world wide wally]

25. a 20 foot shore wave is no slouch

Check this out:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/wentloog/14865657388

[RhodeIslandOne]

27. Which is exactly my point

Some dope is going to say “hey it’s not 80 feet like those eggheads said!” and think they’re good.

[PJMcK]

41. Yep, the dopes didn't pay attention in high school physics

The part of the wave that you see is only the top half. The lower half is under water which is why the wave collapses when it encounters shallower water.

Still, a ten-foot to twenty-foot wave crashing into your beach house is going to leave a mark.

[MiniMe]

15. Not to mention that she is risking the lives of the first responders

I hope she writes her name and other information on her with waterproof marker.

[eppur_se_muova]

20. First responders will not be there. State and local officials have made that clear.

They will not go into the danger areas to rescue people who change their minds. No help until the storm is safely past.

[Grammy23]

26. It is true.

First Responders go in FIRST after it is safe for them to go out. They do not rescue during the storm. If you are trapped or in trouble that is on you until the weather improves enough for them to safely venture out. Even then the danger is enormous from things like downed power lines and unstable structures.

There is a reason for early evacuation. Heed the warnings or you could get trapped or worse.

[PearliePoo2]

16. This makes me sick with worry and anger.

I HATE seeing stories like this. I feel SO bad for those beautiful dogs. Is this animal cruelty? I think so.

If any or all of those dogs perish, if she's still alive, I hope she is arrested. fucker.

[Pachamama]

18. The Stupid is strong in so many....

While I understand the stress of trying to figure out what to do in evacuation with 6 dogs, I watched an interview this morning on MSNBC of a mom in NC with her three daughters under age 10 and they are staying put and she said there were "strength in numbers" and her little girls said they were going to draw and do things as normal....

I screamed when I heard that....

I hate willful ignorance too....especially when it involves animals and children who will be harmed as a result....

[phylny]

19. Practically speaking, my dogs won't go out to pee or poop in the rain

let alone during hurricane-force winds. Did she think of THAT?

[RhodeIslandOne]

21. Oh well

Nature has ways of thinning the herd.

[catbyte]

30. I don't give a damn about her, it's her dogs I'm worried about. They have no choice.

[RhodeIslandOne]

32. That's is sad

Unfortunately it’s fate those poor animals were paired with an idiot human.

[spinbaby]

23. My sister's neighbors are staying

A mile from the shore in Wilmington.

[Paladin]

24. It never fails, regardless of location.

Some people are going to stay and rough it out. Are there any youngsters down at the beaches with their surf boards, awaiting the biggest waves of their lifetimes? That's the other reliable cliche' activity in these circumstances. People.....

[Funtatlaguy]

28. I would risk my own life before I risked my dogs life. She looks to me to protect her.

Just like a child would.

[zipplewrath]

31. Moral hazard

This is the unfortunate reality of risk and what is often described as the "moral hazard". Truth is, if you were betting, the odds are "with" her. Remember, that just means better than 50/50. People play black jack where the odds are closer to 40/60 but they play anyway. The majority of idiots that choose to stay will survive. Ultimately, they may never choose to do so again. But people live through a Cat 2 or 3 and that's where the hazard starts. They don't understand how much worse this storm is. This is a 4. Worse, it is a 4 that will linger. Even if it falls to a 3 at landfall, it will dump ALOT of rain on the area. It could literally be a couple of days before crews can get in. They won't sent them in until the winds fall to about 40 mph. A cat 3 that lingers is still WELL above that.

The 3000 that died in Puerto Rico from Maria were mostly well after the storm passed. This woman's danger is as much AFTER the storm as during. And honestly, people should leave not because they are in danger. They should leave because, after the storm, mostly they are a burden. A burden on the infrastructure and the workers that will have to move in and restore things.

[Zambero]

33. Could this be part of the evolutionary process?

Natural selection with "stupid" or "stubborn" as a negative survival factors? I believe Darwin Awards take this into consideration. It's tragic that her dogs, if not evacuated, will suffer the same fate as ultra-stubborn (Mount St. Helens) Harry Truman's cats.

[Fritz Walter]

49. I was going to nominate her for a Darwin Award

But — without watching the news story — I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that she’s beyond child-bearing years. So that factor may have already given the chlorine shock to that corner of the gene pool.

So now, I’ll hope that the dogs’ instinct for self-preservation kicks in and they survive. Even if they end up gnawing on her bones to survive the aftermath. They don’t deserve this!

[trueblue2007]

34. this makes me cry. she is killing her dogs for her own stupid reasons. DOG MURDERER

[LanternWaste]

35. This is an example of why "but we must respect their decisions"

comes across to me as abject absurdity, second only in idiocy to the decision itself.

[neohippie]

36. There are a lot of people who refuse to evacuate

There's a lady in Carolina Beach, NC who has three little girls who refuses to leave because it will be inconvenient trying to get back to her house after the storm has passed

I don't care if she wants to be an idiot but she shouldn't subject her young children to that kind of reasoning


https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/woman-nc-coast-tells-msnbc-shes-not-evacuating-kids-theres-strength-numbers/


Katie explained that she was refusing to evacuate and instead was planning to “just try to stay safe during the hurricane.”

“I think we are going to do everything normally,” she said.

“Why the decision to stay and not fall back further inland?” Sanders asked.

“From my experience, getting back into town after the storms is very difficult,” the Carolina Beach resident insisted. “Knowing that our family and friends and our home are all here, we didn’t want to leave them unprotected for a prolonged amount of time. We are going to try to stay put.”

“We have several neighbors saying put,” she added. “We feel there is strength in numbers. We checked in with one another. We are going band together and make it through.”

It was not immediately clear from Katie’s remarks how “strength in numbers” would protect her family from a Category Four hurricane.

[radical noodle]

46. I saw that one on TV this morning

Safety in numbers. Good grief.

[rustysgurl]

37. Cousins in Wilmington ...

... left yesterday headed here for KC. They packed up 2 dogs, 3 cats, a cockatiel and a hamster. Were they inconvenienced? Hell, yeah. But they love their animals like family and if they're evacuating, the critters are coming, too ... ALL of them.

[StevieM]

48. I hope they keep the dogs and cats separate from the smaller animals.

And I am glad that your cousins are getting out.

[rustysgurl]

52. Smaller animals are safely segregated ...

They made a plan years ago in case of such an event, so they were prepared with traveling cages, crates, bedding, pet toys, etc. They're basically a big traveling circus right now ... lol.

[maltzmax]

38. Mental illness

My guess is that this woman has mental illness. Severe enough to significantly cloud her judgement, but not severe enough to take her rights away. There are many people out there like this-unable to make sound decisions, but there is no way to force them to do anything.

[dewsgirl]

60. I live on the east coast of Florida (the Treasure Coast) we are evacuated at least once every couple

years(twice in the last 2 years). I've done this my whole life, it is a huge PIA. Most people would likely be shocked, by the amount of people that refuse to leave. I imagine right about now, they are informing those that are staying to write their personal information on their arm with a sharpie. (The thought has always chilled me).
Everyone I have known of that stayed and faced the storm (especially above a Cat.1) immediately regreted it and never pulled that crap again.

[Liberalagogo]

42. Reminds me of Harry Truman (not the President)

and his refusing to leave his lodge and staying there with all his cats, as he wasn't afraid of no volcano.

That volcano was Mt. St. Helens, and Harry, his lodge, and his cats are all dust now.

[MarvinGardens]

44. If she survives, she'll never do it again.

My ex father-in-law rode out Hugo, 30 miles inland from Charleston. He told me he was frightened by the experience, and would never do it again.

[iluvtennis]

45. In principle, I know we all feel safer in our homes, but she has to face the reality. I hope she

decides to leave. Sending positive karma her way.

[SHRED]

50. Poor dogs.

[spanone]

55. Earlier there was a woman with three young children vowing to stay....

...because getting back into your house is so difficult

She said some neighbors were also staying and she mentioned 'safety in numbers'...the poor kids

[appleannie1943]

56. There is a lady with 3 young daughters living near a beach in southern N. Car. She is staying

because she is more comfortable at home and there is strength in numbers. You have to wonder what these people use for brains. And of course her daughters don't get a say.

[3catwoman3]

57. If I were in an evacuation area, we and our 3 cats...

...would be outta there. Were there time enough, I would also take precious family photos, and a couple items of heirloom jewelry that I treasure.

I most definitely do not have the risk taking gene.

[Kilgore]

59. Obvious 2018 Darwin Award candidate

https://darwinawards.com