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bigtree

(86,005 posts)
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 11:06 PM Sep 2018

Storm the size of North Carolina when it arrives

Eric Holthaus @EricHolthaus
OK you guys, my intention is not to scare anyone with this message.

But Hurricane #Florence—the storm bound for North Carolina—is going to be about the size of North Carolina when it arrives.

This is what it will look like, according to the latest high-res model prediction:






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Storm the size of North Carolina when it arrives (Original Post) bigtree Sep 2018 OP
went through Fran here in Raleigh 22 years ago - lost over 100 trees....watching this very NRaleighLiberal Sep 2018 #1
It seems to be heading right for you... Scurrilous Sep 2018 #2
Good bye OBX underpants Sep 2018 #26
Yeah PJMcK Sep 2018 #35
Good luck underpants Sep 2018 #36
Oy - take cover and be careful! Got your supplies just in case? calimary Sep 2018 #4
you had that smaller one hit right before that bigtree Sep 2018 #7
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but... KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #14
Water is always what kills you in a Hurricane. You can survive the wind, but not the water. Lochloosa Sep 2018 #39
OMG, I can remember some of the evacuations out of Florida and KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #42
Take care malaise Sep 2018 #23
Ouch. Between weakened trees from climate change Hortensis Sep 2018 #34
survive, then sell the lumber Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2018 #38
That looks a lot bigger than NC. pangaia Sep 2018 #3
That's one model out of many. B2G Sep 2018 #5
My husband's family and a lot of friends are in NC. nolabear Sep 2018 #6
South Carolina bigtree Sep 2018 #8
I wish her and hers the best. I went through some corkers. nolabear Sep 2018 #12
I remember Betsy well. Croney Sep 2018 #32
Camille? You have my respect... Lochloosa Sep 2018 #40
Yeah. I was fourteen. It wasn't something to go through. nolabear Sep 2018 #43
Interactive weather map OxQQme Sep 2018 #9
comes right ashore (NC) on that model bigtree Sep 2018 #16
The stall scenario is the worst case. joshcryer Sep 2018 #18
Thanks for posting Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #21
I'm in Richmond. My wife flies home from Nashville on Friday. rusty quoin Sep 2018 #10
Fuck. That's massive. JHan Sep 2018 #11
I'm about 50 miles east of Raleigh Jersey Devil Sep 2018 #13
Hurricane Andrew destroyed Homestead AFB in '92. Scurrilous Sep 2018 #17
same here dsc Sep 2018 #22
This will be far worse than Matthew malaise Sep 2018 #24
Trump had aids buy paper towels, so the government is ready. sfwriter Sep 2018 #15
Florence could be combo of Fran and Floyd unc70 Sep 2018 #19
Fran was widely predicted to hit land and then skirt up the coast, Petosky Stone Sep 2018 #20
Hi, Neighbor... OneGrassRoot Sep 2018 #37
Bet they get power restored faster than Puerto Rico dembotoz Sep 2018 #25
Faster than PR, but not fast unc70 Sep 2018 #31
More than a year and still counting dembotoz Sep 2018 #33
Three weeks is very fast compared to eleven months. LanternWaste Sep 2018 #41
No way I would ride this monster out. If the winds don't get you the massive flooding will. PearliePoo2 Sep 2018 #27
I hope Charleston, SC is still there in December DFW Sep 2018 #28
Hope so too liberal N proud Sep 2018 #30
Be safe and aware of what's going on duforsure Sep 2018 #29
it just gets worse ... dweller Sep 2018 #44
I saw the lines there bigtree Sep 2018 #45
scored water this morning dweller Sep 2018 #46
Interactive Barometric Pressure map OxQQme Sep 2018 #47
Very cool. Thanks for posting! Tipperary Sep 2018 #48

NRaleighLiberal

(60,018 posts)
1. went through Fran here in Raleigh 22 years ago - lost over 100 trees....watching this very
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 11:15 PM
Sep 2018

closely. Hoping it decides to take a detour, somehow, away from land.

PJMcK

(22,041 posts)
35. Yeah
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 08:18 AM
Sep 2018

We have a vacation house on Ocracoke Island. It's rented for the week but we'll see if they evacuate the island.

Sadly, there's not much we can do about it. The house is 8 feet above the ground and it was solidly built by our neighbor, a local who knows how bad the storms can be. We'll just have to hope for the best.

calimary

(81,425 posts)
4. Oy - take cover and be careful! Got your supplies just in case?
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 11:43 PM
Sep 2018

Stay safe, and please report in about it from time to time, so we know you’re okay. Otherwise, we’re gonna worry.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
7. you had that smaller one hit right before that
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 12:35 AM
Sep 2018

...and Fran came ashore as a 3.

I think Edouard messed with it a bit before it came in.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
14. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but...
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 01:05 AM
Sep 2018

Isn't flooding in the low country the greatest danger to life in east NC and SC? I stayed near Georgetown, SC for a spell around 1980 and the land is very flat with rivers all over. They spoke a lot about a big one, I think Hurricane Hugo. One hit in the years after I left and rearranged my beloved Pawley's Island south of Myrtle.

Those areas in general are very poor after one goes inland a few miles and little attention is paid to those folks in a disaster. In the area where I stayed, I would guess 80% of the people lived in house trailers on private land.

Best wishes to you from KY through this trying time and please keep us posted......

Lochloosa

(16,067 posts)
39. Water is always what kills you in a Hurricane. You can survive the wind, but not the water.
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 04:03 PM
Sep 2018

Native Floridian. I wouldn't be any where near this one.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
42. OMG, I can remember some of the evacuations out of Florida and
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 04:16 PM
Sep 2018

the trauma of that traffic.

Still feel the most sorrow for those who can't afford to or are not physically able to evacuate, and there will be many of those with Florence.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. Ouch. Between weakened trees from climate change
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 08:17 AM
Sep 2018

and last big one 22 years ago, guessing you could possibly lose a bunch again.

When Irma reached north Georgia as a glancing tropical storm around this time last year, the damage was rather amazing, with thousands of trees down and tens of thousands without power in our county alone. Including us. Three trees from our woods fell on the road, a few others lost. The county had to do triage so merely cut a gap through a large oak blocking the road into our little neighborhood and moved on. But we knew it would have to be that way and we and our neighbors had already been out with chainsaws clearing the other trees blocking our roads and driveways.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,400 posts)
38. survive, then sell the lumber
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 09:25 AM
Sep 2018

Hang on.

After it's over, resist the temptation to just cut those trees up into firewood chunks. There are portable sawmill operators all over that area. You may recover some of your loss. (see forestryforum.com ).

Things get crazy and scary around here when we get 60 - 70 mph straight line winds. I'd be -elsewhere- in the face of a storm like that one is predicted to be.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
5. That's one model out of many.
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 11:46 PM
Sep 2018

Prepare for sure but look to the NHC for the latest info. We currently currently don't know exact path or intensity at landfall.

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
6. My husband's family and a lot of friends are in NC.
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 11:52 PM
Sep 2018

Only a couple are on the coast and I’m sure they’ll go inland, but it sounds like they’re all in for a ride. I love those barrier islands. I don’t know which of us is going to go first but I wouldn’t give either of us more than thirty.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
8. South Carolina
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 12:37 AM
Sep 2018

...is where my sister-in law and her daughter lives.

Right near Myrtle Beach. She's worried about flooding (among other things).

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
12. I wish her and hers the best. I went through some corkers.
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 12:56 AM
Sep 2018

Camille and Betsy, and myboeople suffered Katrina. They will make philosophers of you for sure.

Croney

(4,662 posts)
32. I remember Betsy well.
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 07:11 AM
Sep 2018

I had a new baby and we'd bought a new house in Terrytown, a cookie-cutter low-end bungalow. In a week without power, my husband and his friends went out fishing and brought home giant redfish that they laid out on the lawn, so neighbors could take and grill. We had it easy. Once power was restored, the TV showed cars during the storm, floating with people inside.

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
43. Yeah. I was fourteen. It wasn't something to go through.
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 04:32 PM
Sep 2018

We actually got out just ahead of it but my grandfather stayed and was lucky to survive. We were without power for weeks. Talk about living cheek by jowl and being afraid of the snakes that were EVERYWHERE. Oof. We were lucky really. Didn’t lose much. Lots lost everything.

OxQQme

(2,550 posts)
9. Interactive weather map
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 12:38 AM
Sep 2018
https://www.windy.com/?32.361,-82.881,4

In windy, choose 'wind' from the upper right vertical menu bar.
In the lower menu, sequentially choose Monday/Tues/Wed/etc and that twister's moving fast.

'Grab' and 'zoom' if you choose.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
18. The stall scenario is the worst case.
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 01:45 AM
Sep 2018

While the full push scenario would be devastating to structures, 30+ inches of rain would completely flood out entire towns, many many towns.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
13. I'm about 50 miles east of Raleigh
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 12:57 AM
Sep 2018

in Goldsboro, NC, home of Seymour Johnson Air Force Base. My daughter and her AF hubby live here also. Whenever there is the threat of a hurricane or tropical storm the Air Force flies all of its F-15 fighters out of the area and the families are left behind in what they call "Operation Abandon Your Family." Just an interesting anecdote about the lives of military families.

 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
15. Trump had aids buy paper towels, so the government is ready.
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 01:07 AM
Sep 2018

I shouldn't joke. I have a feeling this will not go well.

unc70

(6,117 posts)
19. Florence could be combo of Fran and Floyd
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 02:00 AM
Sep 2018

Fran brought hurricane winds inland past Raleigh, Durham, Greensboro; Floyd flooded everything east of Raleigh -- east of I-95 was unreachable by road for days, many major roads flooded for weeks. I-40 closed inland from Wilmington, US-70 closed at Goldsboro and Kinston, ...

 

Petosky Stone

(52 posts)
20. Fran was widely predicted to hit land and then skirt up the coast,
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 02:45 AM
Sep 2018

but she didn't read the forecasts!

It hit us (in Cary) as a Cat 1. Most weren't prepared.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
37. Hi, Neighbor...
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 08:25 AM
Sep 2018

I'm in that same area. Lived through Fran too. Reeeeally hoping Florence jogs north against all odds.

unc70

(6,117 posts)
31. Faster than PR, but not fast
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 07:02 AM
Sep 2018

It took a long time to restore power in N.C. after Fran (and Floyd). 10-20 days in areas far inland like Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill areas, months for some areas near and along the coast. Lots of little tornadoes and straight line winds brought trees down across nearly every power line, flooding took out much of the rest and maybe washed it away.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
27. No way I would ride this monster out. If the winds don't get you the massive flooding will.
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 06:29 AM
Sep 2018

They are predicting it is going to stall out and dump huge amounts of rain. The rivers and streams won't be able to cope.

I would load up my animals, make sure my insurance is paid up and head west! Even if I had to borrow money to do it.

This thing is going to be a killer.


liberal N proud

(60,339 posts)
30. Hope so too
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 06:55 AM
Sep 2018

We love Charleston too just spent Sunday there

We are outside the come here in Hilton Head as of last night.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
29. Be safe and aware of what's going on
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 06:34 AM
Sep 2018

After seeing what Harvey did to us , we left, we was thankful we got out , and early.

dweller

(23,650 posts)
44. it just gets worse ...
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 09:32 PM
Sep 2018

it's raining already and predicted to everyday this week before florence gets here, saturating the ground and when the winds hit 😩 the trees will come down, latest projection shows it right over my area (chapel hill) by Friday nite, and dumping 7-10" + rain over the weekend resulting in widespread flooding...

does not look good ☹️ ... and all area stores already out of water, they say more is coming but I can't camp out waiting, it will be grabbed quickly I'm sure

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
45. I saw the lines there
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 06:43 AM
Sep 2018

...essentially the parking lot full of shoppers with carts.

SiL says SC is almost impossible to buy water too.

Stay safe! Good luck with supplies.

dweller

(23,650 posts)
46. scored water this morning
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 07:41 AM
Sep 2018

got up at 430, and hit the local grocery, picked up plenty and it was going fast... every shopper had a cart full
so I'm set, I hope ...

OxQQme

(2,550 posts)
47. Interactive Barometric Pressure map
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 08:53 AM
Sep 2018
https://www.windy.com/-Show-add-more-layers/overlays?pressure,12.983,-55.371,3

While in 'windy', one can even choose to see real-time lightning strikes.
Quite amazing, to these 78 year old eyes, to look down upon the world in this optional fashion.

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