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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCoulter: Blacks Die Too Young To Make It Worth Paying Into Social Security
http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2012/08/coulter-blacks-die-too-young-to-make-it.html
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,505 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Occulus
(20,599 posts)malaise
(269,200 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)WTF?? What a disgusting hag.
rocktivity
(44,580 posts)"DOWN!"
rocktivity
martin061360
(39 posts)Monk06
(7,675 posts)goclark
(30,404 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)Actually the one on the right is the better looking, so it must be Coulter on the left.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)lapfog_1
(29,227 posts)but I've always thought of her more as a good example of this breed.
bitchkitty
(7,349 posts)I think the first one is - what is this one?
kentuck
(111,110 posts)For those that die early, their survivor's get benefits. What the hell is she talking about??
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 11, 2012, 01:18 PM - Edit history (1)
I don't think she has the numbers to substantiate the bad deal claim based on the lower life expectancy stats for black males, but the difference is vastly diminished anyway for the 65 year olds. Individual savings might be a better deal for the survivors of somebody who dies early, as in they get to pocket the bank account, it certainly isn't a better deal for anyone else., in particular it isnt a shitty deal for retirees, which offhand was and is the whole point of SS - providing retirement security.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I have been collecting it for 8 years now and I am not bad off. My expenses are low and the social security covers them all and even leaves me some extra cash.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)CanonRay
(14,119 posts)that's why the Rethugs like her so much.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)helps them how? they're DEAD.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Smilo
(1,944 posts)from the adam's apple of the GOPT.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)...can't really see how saying that helped your side, Ann...
PatSeg
(47,625 posts)that might win some black votes for the GOP? What a freak!
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)anyone who dies "younger." But then, so are private accounts.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)of their race, have survived on SS survivors' benefits."
Coulter would have her audience believe that there's something intrinsic to black males -- their propensity to die at a younger age -- that somehow makes SS a 'bad deal' for them when, in fact, it's either a bad deal for all regardless of race or, as you suggest, it's a good deal for all regardless of race.
Put another way, ff SS is a 'bad deal' for black males because they die young, why then so are 'private accounts,' as black males would still die young, irrespective of whether they were eligble for SS or for private accounts. Thereby explaining why I labeled Coulter's comments 'unapologetically racist.'
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...is how Christopher Simpson out it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6369138&mesg_id=6369138
Occulus
(20,599 posts)Overseas
(12,121 posts)Thought about it after I saw No Dinosaurs in Heaven and Waiting for Armageddon. I sometimes try to forget about the millions of people being encouraged to follow faith-based politics, history and even science.
upi402
(16,854 posts)For those wondering, Sean Hannity really is a NAZI. For proof, look at what he does.
Here he supplies a forum for Ann Coulter to state: "Zeke Emanuel is on my Death List."
It's at the 50-second mark or so:
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200908120055
While the young Mr. Buchanan, er, Hannity has dark hair, both he and Mrs. Coulter belong to what Friedrich Nietzsche called, and Christopher Simpson indicts as, The Splendid Blond Beast.
What that phrase really means, there are people who are willing to kill for the sake of the race and nation capitalism or fascism or empire or whatever. Bettering the empire through genocide, the extermination of another people, for examples: NAZI Germany, the Jewish people; Ottoman Turkey, the Armenia people; the United States, the Native American people.
We see the remnants of this in the United States on the tee vee, in the people behind the protests at the Town Forums and whatnot. MotherJones has done an excellent job of reporting: Town Hall Protests: Astroturf 2.0?.
Lo and behold! Its the same class of frustrated group of GOPer white-power people. They should pose no real problem, provided the rest of We the People peg them for what they are.
The real problem isn't, believe it or not, that these misguided souls are the enemy. As we, those who want change in the form of national health insurance, for example, arent the enemy to them.
Heres the problem: Those who dont want change are the ones who dont want to pay for it. The very, very rich. Theyve employed a few bad characters in the past. We can see evidence theyre back, their hatred made visible, the mob.
It's not just paranoid propaganda, what the rightwingnutjobs believe. It's generated by professionals who brought us "It's not torture. It's 'waterboarding.'"
The Splendid Blond Beast
excerpted from the book
The Splendid Blond Beast
by Christopher Simpson
Common Courage Press, 1995
Friedrich Nietzsche called the aristocratic predators who write society's laws "the splendid blond beast" precisely because they so often behave as though they are beyond the reach of elementary morality. As he saw things, these elites have cut a path toward a certain sort of excellence consisting mainly of the exercise of power at the expense of others. When dealing with ordinary people, he said, they "revert to the innocence of wild animals.... We can imagine them returning from an orgy of murder, arson, rape and torture, jubilant and at peace with themselves as though they had committed a fraternity prank-convinced, moreover, that the poets for a long time to come will have something to sing about and to praise.'' Their brutality was true courage, Nietzsche thought, and the foundation of social order.
Today genocide-the deliberate destruction of a racial, cultural, or political group-is the paramount example of the institutionalized and sanctioned violence of which Nietzsche spoke. Genocide has been a basic mechanism of empire and the national state since their inception and remains widely practiced in "advanced" and "civilized" areas. Most genocides in this century have been perpetrated by nation-states upon ethnic minorities living within the state's own borders; most of the victims have been children. The people responsible for mass murder have by and large gotten away with what they have done. Most have succeeded in keeping wealth that they looted from their victims; most have never faced trial. Genocide is still difficult to eradicate because it is usually tolerated, at least by those who benefit from it.
The Splendid Blond Beast examines how the social mechanisms of genocide often encourage tacit international cooperation in the escape from justice of those who perpetrated the crime...
According to psychologist Ervin Staub, who has studied dozens of mass crimes, genocidal societies usually go through an evolution during which the different strata of society literally learn how to carry out group murder. In his book The Roots of Evil, Staub contends that genocidal atrocities most often take place in countries under great political, economic, and often military stress. They are usually led by authoritarian parties that wield great power yet are insecure in their rule, such as the Nazis in Germany or the Ittihad (Committee of Union and Progress) in Turkey. The ideologies of such parties can vary in important respects, but they are nonetheless often similar in that they create unity among "in-group" members through dehumanization of outsiders. Genocidal societies also show a marked tendency toward what psychologists call "justworld" thinking: Victims are believed to have brought their suffering upon themselves and, thus, to deserve what they get.
But the ideology of these authoritarian parties and even their seizure of state power are not necessarily enough to trigger a genocide. The leading perpetrators need mass mobilizations to actually implement their agenda. For example, the real spearheads of genocide in Germany-the Nazi party, SS, and similar groups- by themselves lacked the resources to disenfranchise and eventually murder millions of Jews. They succeeded in unleashing the Holocaust, however, by harnessing many of the otherwise ordinary elements of German life-of commerce, the courts, university scholarship, religious observance, routine government administration, and so on-to the specialized tasks necessary for mass murder. Not surprisingly, many of the leaders of these "ordinary" institutions were the existing notables in German society. The Nazi genocide probably would not have been possible without the active or tacit cooperation of many collaborators who did not consider themselves Nazis and, in some cases, even opposed aspects of Hitler's policies, yet nonetheless cooperated in mass murder. Put bluntly, the Nazis succeeded in genocide in part through offering bystanders money, property, status, and other rewards for their active or tacit complicity in the crime.
The actions of Nazi Germany's business elite illustrate how this works. Prior to 1933, German business leaders did not show a marked impulse toward genocide. Anti-Semitism was present in German commercial life, of course, but was often less pronounced there than in other European cultures of the day.4 Among the Nazis' first acts in power, however, was the introduction of incentives to encourage persecution of Jews. New Aryanization laws created a profitable business for banks, corporations, and merchants willing to enforce Nazi racial preferences. Tens of thousands of Germans seized businesses or real estate owned by Jews, paying a fraction of the property's true value, or drove Jewish competitors out of business. Jewish wealth, and later Jewish blood, provided an essential lubricant that kept Germany's ruling coalition intact throughout its first decade in power. By 1944 and 1945, leaders of major German companies such as automaker Daimler Benz, electrical manufacturers AEG and Siemens, and most of Germany's large mining, steelmaking, chemical, and construction companies found themselves deeply compromised by their exploitation of concentration camp labor, theft, and in some cases complicity in mass murder. They committed these crimes not so much out of ideological conviction but more often as a means of preserving their influence within Germany's economy and society. For much of the German economic elite, their cooperation in atrocities was offered to Hitler's government in exchange for its aid in maintaining their status.
CONTINUED...
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Genocide/SplendidBlon...
alp227
(32,064 posts)seanpencil
(168 posts)can't make this shit up. Or do they? Testing the limits of WTF?!
Johonny
(20,895 posts)Republicans think the problem is not enough people die young not that too few get to old age...
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)At 25 it's 4.1 years.
Black: 52.3 years (= average death at age 77.3)
White: 55.4 years (=average death at age 80.4)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr59/nvsr59_09.pdf
So that's 10.3 years of SS for blacks who live to 25 on average v. 13.4 for whites.
But black americans, because of higher poverty rates & lower earnings are more likely to be totally dependent on SS in their old age.
Ann coulter is a horse's ass.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)WillParkinson
(16,862 posts)The care just oozes from them.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Ann Coulter ---------->
sakabatou
(42,180 posts)GP6971
(31,222 posts)More like the 100 meter dash, all the time
gollygee
(22,336 posts)That's just fine. The only problem is social security. Nice.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)johnlucas
(1,250 posts)What the hell is wrong with J.J.?
He needs John Amos to put the James Evans belt to his behind one good time.
John Lucas
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)johnlucas
(1,250 posts)Jimmie Walker has been on this Black Conservative crap for awhile & he's been lovey-dovey with Ann Coulter for years.
Like I said John Amos needs to resurrect the James Evans character & put a belt to J.J.'s behind.
J.J. may not be as skinny as he used to be but nobody handles a leather belt better than James Evans.
Hahahahaha!
John Lucas
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)johnlucas
(1,250 posts)Try adding 'dating', 'dated', or 'date' between 'Ann Coulter' & 'Jimmie Walker' in the search.
John Lucas
kwassa
(23,340 posts)the Holiday Spa branch in Hollywood. Walker appeared to be working out with his significant other, a somewhat frumpy blonde, as a matter of fact.
I was struck at that time by how much Walker had aged.
The gym was later very badly damaged in the '94 Northridge earthquake.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 12, 2012, 04:45 AM - Edit history (1)
Monk06
(7,675 posts)In fact dead people have no use at all for retirement plans. They have moved on to the ultimate retirement, fully covered in heaven.
Kingofalldems
(38,489 posts)Claimed SS was racist.
Yes they did.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)That bitch would just dry up and blow away. She is a curse upon the earth.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Initech
(100,107 posts)vaberella
(24,634 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)young makes social security very important to them.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)some kind of light bulb.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Maybe we should put her in a prison for a day and see how long she lasts.
ananda
(28,879 posts).. far away from any tv monitors.
upi402
(16,854 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,534 posts)these outrageous statements so she can grab a little attention in the hopes of selling a few books.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)be haunting?
Generic Brad
(14,276 posts)I recall him saying something like this in his act: "The life expectancy of a black man in America is 62. Why the hell am I paying into Social Security?"
But as for private accounts? How would that help anyone who dies before they can collect?