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malaise

(269,157 posts)
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 11:57 AM Sep 2018

Sobering - Life, Death and Benefits

A good friend died on Monday morning. She, her husband and I started our undergrad degrees together decades ago. She and I worked at the same institution. One of our benefits is three years pay for your spouse, children or whoever you choose if you die while employed. Her retirement date was Friday August 31. That made Monday September 3 the first working day of her retirement. That was seriously bad timing.
Life is a bitch and then we all die.

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Sobering - Life, Death and Benefits (Original Post) malaise Sep 2018 OP
This is terrible! MontanaMama Sep 2018 #1
Sorry to hear this...had a colleague pass first week of retirement.. HipChick Sep 2018 #2
Funny that you say that malaise Sep 2018 #6
Labor Day Mollyann Sep 2018 #3
Not our Labor Day malaise Sep 2018 #4
Life. So brutal. So short. Old old saying. Roman / latin version originally. BSdetect Sep 2018 #5
Profound malaise Sep 2018 #7
So sorry.... spanone Sep 2018 #8
So sorry Meowmee Sep 2018 #9
Her company or institution is going to deny her life insurance lapfog_1 Sep 2018 #10
We figure the insurance company will be the problem malaise Sep 2018 #12
what I am suggesting is that the institution find a reason for her to still have been an employee lapfog_1 Sep 2018 #15
I don't see how malaise Sep 2018 #18
Depends on how her premiums were paid. If they're in advance, and she paid during August, haele Sep 2018 #20
I'll tell her hubby to check that malaise Sep 2018 #21
That really sucks MissB Sep 2018 #11
Before or father the retirement date? n/t malaise Sep 2018 #14
Before. You have to make the decision on the way out the door MissB Sep 2018 #16
We have other benefits plus our pensions malaise Sep 2018 #17
So sorry mal..... panader0 Sep 2018 #13
Yep malaise Sep 2018 #19

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
1. This is terrible!
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 12:13 PM
Sep 2018

Had she been ill or was her death unexpected?

Either way, please accept my condolences.

lapfog_1

(29,219 posts)
10. Her company or institution is going to deny her life insurance
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 12:42 PM
Sep 2018

because she was "retired" for less than a day when she passed away?

can the institution simply change the date of her retirement to be a day later due to some paperwork issue or other?

malaise

(269,157 posts)
12. We figure the insurance company will be the problem
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 12:48 PM
Sep 2018

not our former institution.
Truth be told, it's not even a full day. If she had died three hours earlier, there would be no issue.

lapfog_1

(29,219 posts)
15. what I am suggesting is that the institution find a reason for her to still have been an employee
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 12:56 PM
Sep 2018

at the time of her death. The insurance company will likely be dicks about this.

So IF the institution can find any loophole that allows them to legally state that she was still employed... they have to pay up.

The very least that everyone can do in this situation is look for some reason. Even engage legal help to establish this for the insurance company.

Anyway, sorry for your loss.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
18. I don't see how
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:20 PM
Sep 2018

Our retirement age is 65 and we are notified of the date one year in advance. It's usually two months before you turn 66'. We're hoping they work something out, but I doubt that the insurance company will deliver.

haele

(12,674 posts)
20. Depends on how her premiums were paid. If they're in advance, and she paid during August,
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:48 PM
Sep 2018

She might still be covered for anywhere between two weeks to a full 30 days after the official retirement date. It all depends on how the insurance plan is set up.
My current employer's life insurance plan ends 30 days after the last week of paid work or accrued final leave, no matter if it's due to retirement or quitting/layoff/firing. The same situation happened during the first five years the company was in business, which hit the owners so hard, they wanted to make sure all employees still had complete coverage while they were "in transition" in terms of their benefits packages.

Over the years, I've known several people who have died soon (days or weeks) after they retired; mostly older (nearing 70 or older) "hard-chargers" with high stress careers - and a high-stress turn-over prior to retirement - with no "work" or hobby jobs planned after they actually left their last job.

For those people, it seemed that it's just that shock of not having to get up and go to work ever again - that there's no "meaning" for one to be anywhere - that hurts so much it kills.

I'm so sorry for you and your friend's family.

Haele

MissB

(15,812 posts)
11. That really sucks
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 12:48 PM
Sep 2018

Where I work, you can choose to either take the full benefit or a slightly reduced one that would pass on to your spouse if you die before they do.

As a woman, I’m not sure if I’d choose the lower benefit because statistically speaking, women live longer than men.

Very sad about your friend- sorry for your loss.

MissB

(15,812 posts)
16. Before. You have to make the decision on the way out the door
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 12:57 PM
Sep 2018

not after it closes.

I’ll just see where we are both at in terms of health when we get to that point. When we sit down with the financial advisor, the simulation is always me outliving DH.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
13. So sorry mal.....
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 12:52 PM
Sep 2018

My oldest friend of over 40 years died in October of 2012.
I still think of him every day.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
19. Yep
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:30 PM
Sep 2018

Losing family and friend hurt although we just wanted her pain to stop. Pancreatic cancer is horrific.

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