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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 11:32 PM Sep 2018

The timing of Woodward's book & the anonymous op-ed

I'm thinking the timing of the Woodward book release and the anonymous op-ed in the NYT was timed to hit like a one-two punch. What do you think?

That op-ed wasn't written on a napkin at lunch. It was well prepared. Then the Woodward book saying much the same things, written by a well respected Pulitzer Prize winner. It couldn't have been planned better. So I'm thinking it was planned to be a one-two punch.

I'm not sure if it was also timed to coincide with the Kavanaugh hearing. Probably not.

Thoughts?

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The timing of Woodward's book & the anonymous op-ed (Original Post) Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 OP
I have a feeling that you're right True Dough Sep 2018 #1
The NYT was operating in secret GusBob Sep 2018 #5
I didn't mention the Wash. Post. It was the book and the NYT op-ed. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #7
The Woosward book was released in a Wash Post splash eom GusBob Sep 2018 #12
Oh, maybe so. But the release of the book itself is what matters. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #13
According to the NYT GusBob Sep 2018 #2
Interesting. I don't know him. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #8
Perfect Timing Grassy Knoll Sep 2018 #3
Woodward was in Naval Intelligence before he went to the Post underpants Sep 2018 #4
I did not know he was Naval Intel. Very interesting. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #14
IMO both are timed to divert attn from Kavanaugh hearing. Shiny objects for M$M bobbieinok Sep 2018 #6
Why would Bob Woodward want to divert attention from Kavanaugh? Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #9
I'm tempted not to trust any of this. The gop has known this day was coming for wiggs Sep 2018 #10
And they covered up the Link to Putin malaise Sep 2018 #16
I don't think they knew the reaper would come a callin'. I think they thought there were be Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #17
I'm Deep Throat Brother Buzz Sep 2018 #11
I think the timing is linked to the McCain funeral n/t malaise Sep 2018 #15
You're probably right about that. The person speaks solemnly & respectfully about "Sen. McCain." Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #18
It is more frightening than that malaise Sep 2018 #19
Ah...but a sane, rational President couldn't be fooled like that. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #20
They put him in the White House malaise Sep 2018 #21
I believe the opposite. I think it was brave that SOMEONE did the op-ed & reported that Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #22
It was well prepared. ? kentuck Sep 2018 #23

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
5. The NYT was operating in secret
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 11:43 PM
Sep 2018

Only a few people knew. Beyond that, how is the NYT going to know when the Washington Post is gonna run their big story? And or vice verse

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. I didn't mention the Wash. Post. It was the book and the NYT op-ed.
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 12:01 AM
Sep 2018

Is that what you mean?

Woodward would of course know the author of the op-ed, since he interviewed many officials & staffers in the admin. It would have been easy to time it.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
13. Oh, maybe so. But the release of the book itself is what matters.
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 08:56 AM
Sep 2018

It was advertised in a number of places. Book releases are done that way. Woodward's tape with Trump was released and played across the nation on tv. Excerpts were talked about in various places. It was a big hoopla.

Trump is not happy. He's shaking his rattler extra hard.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
2. According to the NYT
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 11:36 PM
Sep 2018

It's a coincidence. The writer approached the paper a few days ago well before the Woodward release

If it is who I think it is Hassett, he has written op eds before

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. Interesting. I don't know him.
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 12:03 AM
Sep 2018

Some news org named four possibles. Dan Coats was the main one. But I think Hassett was in the list.

underpants

(182,872 posts)
4. Woodward was in Naval Intelligence before he went to the Post
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 11:41 PM
Sep 2018

and the Post was basically a local paper at that point. Just keep that in mind.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. Why would Bob Woodward want to divert attention from Kavanaugh?
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 12:04 AM
Sep 2018

I think book releases are timed well in advance, as well.

wiggs

(7,817 posts)
10. I'm tempted not to trust any of this. The gop has known this day was coming for
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 12:08 AM
Sep 2018

a year and a half. Maybe longer. They know what the campaign did. They know who trump is. There had to have been multiple plans in place.

I continue to think there's a plan to rehabilitate the gop, elevate Pence, get Trump rich, and continue on. Is this part of it? Don't know...but skeptical.

McConnell knew he would get two scotus picks by denying Obama a pick.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
17. I don't think they knew the reaper would come a callin'. I think they thought there were be
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 09:05 AM
Sep 2018

no accountability at all, and they'd get away with it scot free. Those who are involved, like Nunes and Ryan.

I think they don't care a bit what happens to Trump. If he's indicted, they have Pence to take his place. If not, Trump is easily manipulated and controlled like a child, now. ESPECIALLY now that Trump feels the heat. Trump will do anything to keep the Repubs in Congress from impeaching him. He is alone and powerless w/o them.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
18. You're probably right about that. The person speaks solemnly & respectfully about "Sen. McCain."
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 09:09 AM
Sep 2018

And refers to his Farewell Address.

So .... it's safe to assume that McCain knew what some of the Sr. Officials were doing...like keeping Trump away from the nuke button?

This is no way to run a country. Imagine. It's a group of unknown people who are deciding what should be done or not done, by tricking the deranged President and counting on his forgetfulness. No one elected them. (No one elected Trump, but that's anothe matter.)

malaise

(269,157 posts)
19. It is more frightening than that
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 09:37 AM
Sep 2018

What if there is a sane, rational, progressive President and military folks decide to ignore his commands?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. Ah...but a sane, rational President couldn't be fooled like that.
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 09:47 AM
Sep 2018

For instance, Cohn "removed" the EO on Trump's desk for signature, to withdraw from S Korea or the trade deal w/SK. Trump never realized it. He forgot he asked for it. A sane, rational President would NEVER forget that he wanted to do something so big, so noteworthy.

It also would be very unlikely that there would a whole group of SENIOR officials who were in agreement that they would run the country to a certain extent, instead of the President. And if some did, it's likely that others would blow the whistle on it.

In other words, they can do it, and DO do it, precisely because he is such an idiot.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
21. They put him in the White House
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 09:51 AM
Sep 2018

They must remove him. This timid shit weeks before elections does not pass the smell test and sets a dangerous precedent.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
22. I believe the opposite. I think it was brave that SOMEONE did the op-ed & reported that
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 06:44 PM
Sep 2018

& reported that Trump is wacko and dangerous.

He did more than anyone else to alert the country. It's the alerting that's important.

Let's say he resigned, then reported that. He'd make the talk show circuit, people would say he's a disgruntled official & was going to be fired, anyway. Or he was asked to resign. Then something else outrageous would happen, and everyone's attention would go to that, the resignee's statements forgotten. Nothing would come of it.

This way...he's IN the administration. He hasn't been asked to resign. He's not quitting. He's letting the country know what hte situation is...and to do something, if they can.

I heard Repubs' statements today. They were ho-hum...so the admin. people are helping Trump out...that's good!

The op-ed official knows that the Republicans in Congress aren't going to do anything. So there's no point in resigning, and leaving the position open or to a newbie who might not be able to prevent Trump from doing something bad. He's waiting for the mid-terms, knowing that if the Blue Wave happens, something might be able to be done.

He played it right.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
23. It was well prepared. ?
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 07:41 PM
Sep 2018

Is someone trying to get him to resign?

Or just trying to get him?

Paranoia strikes deep...

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