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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy Ryan was a smart pick.
The "Villagers" love him. He is a "serious" thinker who makes the "hard choices". No matter how many economist like Krugman or Dean Baker show his budget to be a fraud, the journalist and pundits in the Beltway Village love that he wants the 99% to suffer.
As Atrios wrote today:
I will amplify his point that the centrists who comprise the Beltway media love Ryan's desire to inflict pain on the 99%. Like Dancin' Dave on Meet The Press with Axelrod:
But if you look at how dire the fiscal situation is in the country, we just came off a debt debacle this past summer. Alan Simpson responding to the State of the Union said where's the guts? Where's the hard stuff? Where's the beef? Where are the hard choices that Americans are going to have to make? What are Americans have--going to have to do with less of if this president gets re-election?
Or during the GOP primaries:
To Jon Huntsman:
This is, by all accounts, an age of austerity for this country. A jobs crisis. Also a pending crisis in Washington. I wonder what specifically you would do to say to Americans, "These are cuts I'm going to make in federal spending that cause pain, that will require sacrifice?"
They are reading and willing to make the budget debate about how much the lower classes will suffer, and NEVER about the wealthy paying their share of taxes. Romney has ensured the MSM will keep the dialog in his favor.
And frankly I don't trust Obama to call them on this bullshit. I think we will end up with competing austerity plans.
More pain for us, Yea.
cali
(114,904 posts)And you don't need to trust Obama, but yeah, he'll call them on the bullshit no end. He wants to win. He'll keep doing what he's been successfully doing.
plus, Ryan makes it exceedingly difficult for rMoney to win FL.
woodsprite
(11,931 posts)edhopper
(33,639 posts)LonePirate
(13,431 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)This pick is part of the pre-concession speech Willard gave when he pleaded for Team Obama to lay off the taxes already. They are going to go on the record as being the party that wants to abolish medicare and social security, move the stakes even further right, and wait for 2016.
edhopper
(33,639 posts)I remember the media vehemently defending Ryan when the Dems accused him of wanting to abolish Medicare.The kept saying he was just changing it. I believe Polifact said that the Dems claim was one of the biggest lies. Romney has just gotten the media on his side for Economics.
rocktivity
(44,580 posts)because now we can threaten voters with the replay of the Bush administration, garnished with the loss of our "trifecta."
rocktivity
edhopper
(33,639 posts)have the exact same policies doesn't seem to bother the majority of voters who still give him higher marks for economics than Obama.
Marsala
(2,090 posts)They're all just talking heads. They'll be reduced to sputtering, "But doesn't Medicare NEED to be dismantled completely?"
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)ala Sarah Palin. Yeah Ryan is smarter, but that makes him a lot more dangerous in the eyes of the sane majority.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)But most Americans aren't rich.
edhopper
(33,639 posts)believe this crap. They trust Romney more on the Economy.
cali
(114,904 posts)and most Americans don't want to see Medicare diminished, remade or eliminated.
but they keep voting in the Party that wants to do it anyway.
cali
(114,904 posts)and he had a dem congress until a couple of years ago. you make it sound like no dem ever gets elected.
edhopper
(33,639 posts)almost destroyed our economy, the good voters gave them a grand victory.
We could easily lose the Senate this time. And I am not discounting Romney, as so many here are. Don't underestimate him, the GIOP, or the voters' stupidity.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)He isn't very convincing.
edhopper
(33,639 posts)"By more than 2-1, 63%-29%, those surveyed say Romney's background in business, including his tenure at the private equity firm Bain Capital, would cause him to make good decisions, not bad ones, in dealing with the nation's economic problems over the next four years."
sibelian
(7,804 posts)thank you
edhopper
(33,639 posts)but i think the celebration here of the Ryan pick is mistaken.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)the US isn't just doomed, it's damned.
edhopper
(33,639 posts)is that the Media already has.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)I say this from a very insulated socialist country. It won't be for much longer if Romney gets in. What happens in the States eventually happens everywhere else.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)upi402
(16,854 posts)His Congressional record will be fun. The doughy middle of the road voters will choke on his extremism. Just hope they vote.
edhopper
(33,639 posts)"What Ryan is good at is exploiting the willful gullibility of the Beltway media, using a soft-focus style to play into their desire to have a conservative wonk they can say nice things about. And apparently the trick still works."