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No Southern candidate?....on either ticket ? ---but especially in "The Party of the South" (Original Post) underpants Aug 2012 OP
I don't see what's so shocking about this. cali Aug 2012 #1
I noticed that. No southerner? I heard on Joe Schnuck that that's a good thing.... Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #2
But, but, but, HockeyMom Aug 2012 #3
Ike won in '52 and '56 without the South. Kaleva Aug 2012 #15
Hm. Let's look at some of the previous Republican candidates and VP's... Panasonic Aug 2012 #4
Better watch it - there are Texan DUers who will snap if you call the Bush's 'Texan' LynneSin Aug 2012 #14
No Democrat can win the Deep South Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #5
One exception GaYellowDawg Aug 2012 #8
I don't count Virginia or North Carolina as the Deep South. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #9
What is the deep South? pstokely Aug 2012 #16
South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #18
But what about Missouri, Mizzou's now in the SEC? pstokely Aug 2012 #19
Missouri is a swing state. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #22
Texas was one of the original confederate states. Arkansas was not. bornskeptic Aug 2012 #25
Its Hispanic population is why I didn't include Texas. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #29
North Carolina took a bad lurch to the right in 2010 - elected a Republican state legislature yardwork Aug 2012 #13
If you'd seen the people at the polls in 2010 nc4bo Aug 2012 #20
I was at the polls in NC in 2010 voting Democratic. So were my friends. yardwork Aug 2012 #21
Yessssssssssss yardwork!! Yes. nc4bo Aug 2012 #24
Why would the GOP care ?.... RagAss Aug 2012 #6
Wasn't this Nixon's "Southern Strategy?" KansDem Aug 2012 #7
The only reason Florida wriggled into the blue column is because they turn down federal funds. yardwork Aug 2012 #11
Kansas went "Tea Party" last Tuesday... KansDem Aug 2012 #17
Delaware is South. Ish. Biden is from the south-ish region of the country. yardwork Aug 2012 #10
There wasn't in 2008 unless you consider Arizona as part of 'The Party of the South' LynneSin Aug 2012 #12
Yeah I got that wrong underpants Aug 2012 #27
It's ok! LynneSin Aug 2012 #30
And a couple of frat boys, at that Courtesy Flush Aug 2012 #23
Ryan - Delta Tau Delta underpants Aug 2012 #28
I'm from Connecticut, Delaware is south for me. Jennicut Aug 2012 #26

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
2. I noticed that. No southerner? I heard on Joe Schnuck that that's a good thing....
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 08:57 AM
Aug 2012

to get the Republican Party away from being thought of as a southern party.

I think it's a mistake, actually. The southern Republicans will still vote their party, but I imagine they'll have a hard time relating to both of those yankees.

Kaleva

(36,356 posts)
15. Ike won in '52 and '56 without the South.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:44 AM
Aug 2012

Adlai Stevenson won the South in both of those elections but back then, Southerners were so anti-Repub, they'd vote for a liberal egg head over a war hero.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
4. Hm. Let's look at some of the previous Republican candidates and VP's...
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:00 AM
Aug 2012

Romney (MI, CA, UT, NH, MA - do we even know where he is permanently living now?) and Ryan (WI)

Bush (TX), Cheney (TX, WY)

Dole (KS, SC), Kemp (NY)

Bush (TX), Quayle (IN)

Reagan (CA), Bush (TX)



Yeah, I'd say Romney is insulting the South. Repeatedly.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
14. Better watch it - there are Texan DUers who will snap if you call the Bush's 'Texan'
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:44 AM
Aug 2012

They were carpetbaggers from Connecticut

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
5. No Democrat can win the Deep South
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:15 AM
Aug 2012

and no Republican can lose the Deep South.

This isn't like 1992 when Clinton won down south; the seven original Confederate states are so radicalized that with the exception of Florida they will never turn blue.

Why pander to the South if you don't need them/can't have them?

GaYellowDawg

(4,449 posts)
8. One exception
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:34 AM
Aug 2012

North Carolina seems to be getting a little more progressive. But South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Louisiana are Republican locks no matter who's on the ticket.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
9. I don't count Virginia or North Carolina as the Deep South.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:38 AM
Aug 2012

Both of them were latecomers to the Confederacy, joining only after Fort Sumter.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
18. South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 10:01 AM
Aug 2012

Again, I don't count Florida since migration really changed the demographics there.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
22. Missouri is a swing state.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 10:25 AM
Aug 2012

Always has been, throughout its history. A northern slave state, a slave state that stayed in the Union, quintessentially a border state in every sense of the word.

bornskeptic

(1,330 posts)
25. Texas was one of the original confederate states. Arkansas was not.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:23 PM
Aug 2012

Texas, which already has a majority minority population, will be at least purple, if not blue, in a cycle or two. Georgia may get there first. Obama got 47% of the vote in Georgia in 2008.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
29. Its Hispanic population is why I didn't include Texas.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 03:00 PM
Aug 2012

Heck, Texas has always been a creation unto itself.

yardwork

(61,712 posts)
13. North Carolina took a bad lurch to the right in 2010 - elected a Republican state legislature
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:43 AM
Aug 2012

for the first time in over 100 years. Will probably elect a Republican governor this fall. North Carolina is under enemy control.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
20. If you'd seen the people at the polls in 2010
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 10:05 AM
Aug 2012

you'd known that we did not come out but they did, in spades.

I really believe 2010, at least here, was all about voter turn out or lack of it.




yardwork

(61,712 posts)
21. I was at the polls in NC in 2010 voting Democratic. So were my friends.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 10:13 AM
Aug 2012

I blame the white conservative Christian churches in North Carolina who told their congregations to go vote against abortion and gay people. Oh and vote against Obamacare. You know, go vote against that black guy in the White House, he's a Muslim. That's what got the right-wingers riled up.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
24. Yessssssssssss yardwork!! Yes.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:30 AM
Aug 2012

The chik fil a thing reminded of the turnout for our district's 2010 election. They got those white fundies out there and they did their Xian "duty" as if they were martyrs.

But still - I think if we had a strong GOTV for 2010 like we did for 08, things may have turned out differently....I did say maybe

( I find myself hating the people here because they vote for their god values over human values when they should be nearly similar)



RagAss

(13,832 posts)
6. Why would the GOP care ?....
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:18 AM
Aug 2012

A carboard cut-out of Mussolini would win the southern states against President Obama.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
7. Wasn't this Nixon's "Southern Strategy?"
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:31 AM
Aug 2012

And yet, after 40 years of "Southern Strategy," the South still is financially dependent on Northern states:



Hey, "Welfare Queens!" Get to work!

yardwork

(61,712 posts)
11. The only reason Florida wriggled into the blue column is because they turn down federal funds.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:41 AM
Aug 2012

Florida's conscience-less Republican leaders are happy to turn down federal funds for poor people and education, so they just barely make it into the "we pay 97 cents for every federal dollar category."

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
17. Kansas went "Tea Party" last Tuesday...
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:53 AM
Aug 2012

The governor, both Congressional senators and all four representatives--all Tea Party. State legislature moved toward Tea Party extremism.

Gov. Brownback has already turned down Federal funds--

Brownback: Kansas to Return $31.5 Million Health Exchange Grant

Kansas will return a $31.5 million grant to the federal government that aimed to help the state set up a health-insurance exchange, state officials announced on Tuesday.

GOP Gov. Sam Brownback said the state would return the money because of doubts surrounding the federal government’s ability to pay for the grant in the future. Kansas was one of six states to receive extra funding in February.


http://www.nationaljournal.com/healthcare/brownback-kansas-to-return-31-5-million-health-exchange-grant-20110809

Welcome to Teahawker Heaven!

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
12. There wasn't in 2008 unless you consider Arizona as part of 'The Party of the South'
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:42 AM
Aug 2012

Although there are many folks in Delaware that swear our state was part of the Confederacy but those people live down in Southern Delaware not up north like Biden.

Courtesy Flush

(4,558 posts)
23. And a couple of frat boys, at that
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 10:29 AM
Aug 2012

I don't know if they were really frat boys, but that's how they come off. They cannot relate to us in The South, and we can't relate to them. It will be a hard sell.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
26. I'm from Connecticut, Delaware is south for me.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:39 PM
Aug 2012

Seriously, not a big deal at all. The Repubs will keep the deep South anyway, as others have said.

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