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So does anyone believe Woodward made it all up? (Original Post) Kingofalldems Sep 2018 OP
I believe it is 99.8% factual ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #1
He has tapes and he has transcripts. Woodward has no need to make things up. Hekate Sep 2018 #2
The same people who believe Hillary ran a sex ring in a basement of a building w no basement NightWatcher Sep 2018 #3
Mattis is a lapdog samir.g Sep 2018 #4
Oh, Woodward has tapes... Totally Tunsie Sep 2018 #5
He DOES have tapes. BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #6
The moron still does attack tapes. He now claims the Access Holly tapes are not really him, tblue37 Sep 2018 #13
Yet Wawannabe Sep 2018 #14
And since he claims the network illegally taped him and leaked the Access Hollywood tape, it is tblue37 Sep 2018 #15
That's because he is a malignant narcissist, a sociopath and BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #18
No, I don't believe he made it all up radical noodle Sep 2018 #7
Woodward is known as a meticulous journalist who doesn't make stuff up. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #8
Did Bob Woodward lie? HumblePi Sep 2018 #9
welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2018 #29
The people who think Woodward "made it all up" ... NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #10
No critical thinker could believe Woodward made it all up. Freethinker65 Sep 2018 #11
Trump saying its lies makes it even more believable ooky Sep 2018 #12
Trump is going off the rails, Welcome to Crazytown! BootinUp Sep 2018 #25
Woodward doesn't make things up period. CatMor Sep 2018 #16
Have you read "The Agenda" ? oberliner Sep 2018 #22
Excerpts from the Washington Post HumblePi Sep 2018 #17
Is breitbart still around? Gothmog Sep 2018 #19
Still around, still foaming, still vandalizing public discourse. JHB Sep 2018 #21
Without Bannon, does anyone listen to this site? Gothmog Sep 2018 #23
His foam-club, who then push stories into the rest of conservative media JHB Sep 2018 #24
Yeah... MFM008 Sep 2018 #20
I believe Woodward gives credence to Michael Wolff and others FakeNoose Sep 2018 #26
His credibility was established I think w/ the Watergate stuff...and he has history of ... SWBTATTReg Sep 2018 #27
Expect heads to roll...Matis, Kelly, and those in the WH on recorded tapes..... ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2018 #28
the only head bdamomma Sep 2018 #30

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
1. I believe it is 99.8% factual
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:46 PM
Sep 2018

0.2% is hyberbole introduced by the people he interviewed in describing the Rump.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
3. The same people who believe Hillary ran a sex ring in a basement of a building w no basement
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:48 PM
Sep 2018

trump talks exclusively to his base via tweets and fox and that base will deny all reality.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
5. Oh, Woodward has tapes...
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:50 PM
Sep 2018

lots and lots of tapes. From what I'm hearing in all these TV interviews. tapes are his trademark. Tape the person speaking; tape the person spoken to; tape any witnesses in the room. He has tapes all right.

Personally, I'm finding the title interesting. It's "Fear: Trump in the White House", but you can leave out the colon and it reads as correctly, if not more so..."Fear Trump in the White House". This will be a bestie, for sure.

BigmanPigman

(51,615 posts)
6. He DOES have tapes.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:50 PM
Sep 2018

He said so himself and so have everyone else on the news today. Carl Bernstein said that is how he works. It is all legit and documented. The moron can NOT attack tapes! Proof and evidence all on tapes...seems like Watergate, only far worse.

tblue37

(65,457 posts)
13. The moron still does attack tapes. He now claims the Access Holly tapes are not really him,
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 12:12 AM
Sep 2018

even as he claims it was illegal to tape him and leak the tapes.

tblue37

(65,457 posts)
15. And since he claims the network illegally taped him and leaked the Access Hollywood tape, it is
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 12:24 AM
Sep 2018

self-contradictory to claim it isn't him on the tape. Yet he has done so. My point is that even incontrovertible evidence like tapes--or like his earlier admission and locker room talk claim--doesn't prevent him from denying what happened.

BigmanPigman

(51,615 posts)
18. That's because he is a malignant narcissist, a sociopath and
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 12:52 AM
Sep 2018

a pathological liar. The only ones who believe his bullshit about that Access Hollywood tape still are the cult which is 35% of the population. Even all of his GOP supporters don't buy that ridiculous garbage anymore, it's only his kool-aid drinking base that does.

radical noodle

(8,008 posts)
7. No, I don't believe he made it all up
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:53 PM
Sep 2018

I always thought of Woodward as Republican-leaning. I also think he has tapes and lots of backup with detailed notes.

Since I suspected things were this bad in the WH, I don't find the book unreasonable at all. I doubt I'll buy it, too depressing.

HumblePi

(46 posts)
9. Did Bob Woodward lie?
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:57 PM
Sep 2018

I seriously doubt that Bob Woodward would blatantly lie about statements that he said came from Kelly, Cohn, Dowd, Mattis and who knows whoever else. Bob Woodward doesn't need to destroy his sterling reputation at this stage of his life. Trump has already posted two tweets with links to two website articles that debunk and deny these allegations. One article came from Breitbart and the other from the Daily Caller which is an extremely right-leaning conservative site.

NanceGreggs

(27,816 posts)
10. The people who think Woodward "made it all up" ...
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:58 PM
Sep 2018

... are the same people who believe Trump has never told a lie.

HumblePi

(46 posts)
17. Excerpts from the Washington Post
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 12:30 AM
Sep 2018

"The usual pushback to unflattering books, one White House official said, is to discredit the author — a tactic the White House deployed with mixed success following the publication of Michael Wolff’s “Fire and Fury” and Manigault Newman’s “Unhinged.” But that playbook is unlikely to work with Woodward, a veteran chronicler of presidencies and a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter, the official added.

Conway, for instance, told others in the White House before Tuesday that Woodward was credible and that his book could be damaging.

A number of current and former White House aides said the book’s depiction rang true, even if they were not sure of every detail. “I’m not sure why everyone is acting so shocked,” one former senior administration official said.

Ari Fleischer, a White House press secretary under President George W. Bush, defended Woodward in a tweet, saying that as someone who has been on the “receiving end” of one of Woodward’s books, and not always favorably, he had no reason to doubt the journalist’s reporting and methods.

“Never once — never — did I think Woodward made it up,” Fleischer wrote. “Anonymous sources have looser lips and may take liberties. But Woodward always plays [it] straight.”

FakeNoose

(32,681 posts)
26. I believe Woodward gives credence to Michael Wolff and others
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 10:10 AM
Sep 2018

Woodward is certainly not the first, but he's maybe got the best street-cred.

A lot of people scoffed at Wolff's book "Fire and Fury" that came out in January, but the evidence of Trump's craziness has just piled up since then.

SWBTATTReg

(22,154 posts)
27. His credibility was established I think w/ the Watergate stuff...and he has history of ...
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 10:13 AM
Sep 2018

dealing w/ rogue administrations calling him out (Nixon's, and now rump) after he's written stuff (Woodward)...

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
28. Expect heads to roll...Matis, Kelly, and those in the WH on recorded tapes.....
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 10:24 AM
Sep 2018

Who supllied Bob Woodward information of the chaotic White House.

Robert Mueller is quietly lurking in the shadows.

bdamomma

(63,913 posts)
30. the only head
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 12:51 PM
Sep 2018

I would like to see roll as you commented would be trump's. And Mueller is diligent in his work.

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