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(9,897 posts)Congrats on the volume, longevity and timely use of a great graphic!
MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)This is just excellent. And congrats on the milestone of 70,000!
JohnnyRingo
(18,641 posts)It's a bit more simple:
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DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)Instead of government of the people, by the people, it's government by a cigar-chomping backroom kabal with a greasy, liquor-stained map.
JohnnyRingo
(18,641 posts)Indeed, my own Ohio district was gerrymandered as well, but we retain Democrat Tim Ryan. However, next door is the sixth which includes Youngstown. The district now snakes down along the Ohio River on the West Virginia border all the way to Cincinnati. in places it's only five miles wide, but those living in that narrow appendage outnumber the voting public in Y-Town. That asshole Bill Johnson represents there having replaced the great Charlie Wilson during the "Operation Red State 2010" redistricting.
It's stacked against a democrat, but if more people in Youngstown proper would vote, they'd do themselves a tremendous favor.
Stuart G
(38,445 posts)It is exactly what the Republican Party does, every chance it gets. It is simple, easy to understand, clearly shows in 4 diagrams, that 60 per cent are blue, and if done unfairly, and with malice, (as the Republicans do) that 60 percent would be represented by a party that only holds 40 percent of vote..that is 3 red districts when there should be just two.
.........This is a brilliant diagram of what Republicans do, and what we could do, but don't do.
and.....CONGRATULATIONS ON 70,000 POSTS
...................we are.... VERY GRATEFUL THAT YOU ARE HERE !!!!!!!
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)So here we are.
Time to teach social science in an interdisciplinary format that mixes in math, media, maps and ethics.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)We need district boundaries to be determined by an impartial computer/robot.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I've pointed out before that the democrats at times were guilty of #2. The GOP is basically always doing #3. The democrats were padding existing majorities. The GOP creates majorities where there are none.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Stuart G
(38,445 posts)I
moondust
(20,006 posts)who writes Яepublican computer algorithms? Some Яussians?
Computers would seem to make it a lot easier and more precise. Was gerrymandering a serious concern back when it all had to be done manually with pencils and paper, piles of voter registration lists and old maps? It probably wasn't an issue when the Constitution was adopted just as automatic weapons weren't a red flag to stop passage of the 2nd Amendment.
Update: After minimal investigation apparently some gerrymandering was done as early as 1812, but no doubt it was pretty crude. Today's technology has made it an art form.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Very helpful! Bookmarked.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)to create an independent citizens committee to draw the lines. Vote yes on proposal 2.
malthaussen
(17,216 posts)... back in the days when the US was still a bunch of colonies, many states used a variation to bias their legislatures, juggling the number of counties (where representation was by county) to give certain areas (Tidewater Carolina, eg) greater representation than the interior of the colony. Some of the same idea can be seen in assigning two Senators to every state, regardless of size or population. The effect is to make representation less representative.
-- Mal
TomVilmer
(1,832 posts)... is very normal in most representative democracies. To assign two Senators to every state, regardless of size or population, gives every State equal possibilities. The effect is to make representation more representative. Representation only by size of population would give the big coastal States too much power. You might want this to be different, but then it would not really be a representative democracy!