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MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:14 AM Sep 2018

Does this farce of a hearing give Dems future grounds for impeaching Kavanaugh?

Hundreds of thousands of documents were dumped/shredded by Idiot without him exerting executive privilege. I say the whole process was clearly tainted.

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Does this farce of a hearing give Dems future grounds for impeaching Kavanaugh? (Original Post) MoonRiver Sep 2018 OP
I would think so. mainstreetonce Sep 2018 #1
Hope we are both correct. MoonRiver Sep 2018 #3
If he was decent , Kavanaugh would agree to a postponement until the Dems get Funtatlaguy Sep 2018 #9
That's what I said to my husband. He has no integrity. KewlKat Sep 2018 #11
He's a political hack with a law degree DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #22
Doubtful... Wounded Bear Sep 2018 #2
Nope FBaggins Sep 2018 #4
Highly, highly doubt it. He could only be impeached over his actions on the SCOTUS. tonyt53 Sep 2018 #5
Not so. He could be impeached for actions taken before or during his tenure on the Court onenote Sep 2018 #7
Only if those actions prior to his tenure were proven to be illegal, could he be impeached for them tonyt53 Sep 2018 #17
Well, there's a good chance he lied to Congress during DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #23
No nt hack89 Sep 2018 #6
a democratic congress willing to play constitutional hardball certainly could impeach unblock Sep 2018 #8
Dems will impeach Kavanaugh for lieing under oath vlyons Sep 2018 #10
They've got the sharp knives out today. MoonRiver Sep 2018 #13
not sharp enough! vlyons Sep 2018 #14
So tell me, what do you think the Democrats should do that they aren't already doing? KitSileya Sep 2018 #20
Tell Grassley that the hearing is a shameful disgrace vlyons Sep 2018 #21
I see what you did there malaise Sep 2018 #15
We don't impeach people over arguments of process... brooklynite Sep 2018 #12
Something they may be trying to hide docs for is Hortensis Sep 2018 #16
No. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #18
Grounds for impeaching Kavanaugh and Gorsuch should include traitors not getting to stack the MrsCoffee Sep 2018 #19

Funtatlaguy

(10,886 posts)
9. If he was decent , Kavanaugh would agree to a postponement until the Dems get
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:22 AM
Sep 2018

their requested materials and the time to read it.
Would make him look a little above the fray.
Of course, he isn’t and won’t.
Total farce, as always with the modern Trumpublican Party.

Wounded Bear

(58,706 posts)
2. Doubtful...
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:16 AM
Sep 2018

Unfortunately, Dems have to follow precedent and there is none for that kind of action that I know of.

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)
4. Nope
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:17 AM
Sep 2018

Better put... sure... an impeachable offense is anything that the majority of the House says is an impeachable offense. But then you have to get 2/3 of the Senate to agree to remove him.

Obviously, that means that you need bunches of Republicans to agree... and if they could get even a couple to agree that the hearings are a "farce"... there wouldn't be any hearings.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
5. Highly, highly doubt it. He could only be impeached over his actions on the SCOTUS.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:17 AM
Sep 2018

But then, I'm not a lawyer either, but I have watched some on TV shows and my neighbor is one.

onenote

(42,759 posts)
7. Not so. He could be impeached for actions taken before or during his tenure on the Court
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:19 AM
Sep 2018

and whether or not they related directly to his judicial activities.

However, he's not going to be impeached because of the process by which he is confirmed, which while unfair, is perfectly legal.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
17. Only if those actions prior to his tenure were proven to be illegal, could he be impeached for them
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:51 AM
Sep 2018

unblock

(52,317 posts)
8. a democratic congress willing to play constitutional hardball certainly could impeach
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:20 AM
Sep 2018

if we had 67 senators, that is, something not in the cards for a good while, unfortunately.

congress can largely determine what is a "high crime and misdemeanor" and getting to office through illegitimate means, insufficient candor, etc. could certainly be argued qualifies as a high crime and misdemeanor.

in practice, don't hold your breath.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
10. Dems will impeach Kavanaugh for lieing under oath
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:22 AM
Sep 2018

at his last judgeship hearing. Unless, of course, they continue to wield butter knives in a fight.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
20. So tell me, what do you think the Democrats should do that they aren't already doing?
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:56 AM
Sep 2018

What do you think would be "sharper knives"?

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
21. Tell Grassley that the hearing is a shameful disgrace
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:00 AM
Sep 2018

That under the hearing circumstances, a Kavanaugh Justice would illigitimate -- just like the current presidency.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Something they may be trying to hide docs for is
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:47 AM
Sep 2018

whether Kavanaugh lied to congress at a hearing in 2009. He denied being involved in the Bush II admin's planning right after 9/11 for illegal torture, secret overseas prisons, kidnapping of foreign citizens, etc.

After confirmation the...WaPo I think reported evidence that he was involved in one of the meetings (nothing to rule out others). A couple of our senators who are there in today's hearing requested the DoJ investigate, but the DoJ decided there was not enough evidence to proceed. Alberto Gonzales, the same one who formulated a supposed legal basis for torture, was the AG at the time.

Kavanaugh will undoubtedly be asked about that and many other things in this hearing. If he lied then or lies now, he could theoretically be removed for that.

Of course, removing a sitting justice by congress would not be easy, even for cause. It could only happen at a time when the electorate, in their wisdom, put enough Democrats and good Republicans in office to do it, and today's Republican running dogs know that.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,836 posts)
18. No.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:54 AM
Sep 2018

Only one Supreme Court justice has ever been impeached, and he was acquitted by the Senate. That was Samuel Chase, in 1805. Some federal court judges have been removed from office over the years but in all of those cases they had been personally involved in serious crimes, usually bribery or fraud. If the process is tainted because the WH won't release those documents, that's not Kavanaugh's crime.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
19. Grounds for impeaching Kavanaugh and Gorsuch should include traitors not getting to stack the
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:55 AM
Sep 2018

supreme court. When Dump is found guilty, there needs to be some major actions taken.

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