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Joe Biden vs. Paul Ryan VP debate? (Original Post) TeamPooka Aug 2012 OP
Biden will fry him with eggs and eat him alive !!! RagAss Aug 2012 #1
Ryan is the side of toast TeamPooka Aug 2012 #9
Start popping the popcorn now! AnnieBW Aug 2012 #2
I'm going to need a drink bigger than Bloomberg for this. TeamPooka Aug 2012 #12
I drink his milkshake. I drink it all up. Brother Buzz Aug 2012 #3
+1 StrictlyRockers Aug 2012 #23
I know, that Ryan budget is going to get a good going over in that debate. Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #4
Everyone thinks Biden is just a folksy cat, but he knows budgets backwards and forwards alcibiades_mystery Aug 2012 #5
This should be extra revealing, because Ryan's budgets are usually just a bunch of hot air... midnight Aug 2012 #18
My favorite Bidenism ashling Aug 2012 #6
hahaha - I bet we are going to hear that alot more over the next 2 1/2 months. jillan Aug 2012 #7
tagline of the election TeamPooka Aug 2012 #14
The Ryan budget lovemydog Aug 2012 #28
So true particularly with this GOP ticket. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #35
This is gonna be good---- Grammy23 Aug 2012 #8
Welcome to DU Grammy23! jillan Aug 2012 #10
Joey will eat his lunch. Lugnut Aug 2012 #15
Welcome to DU Grammy 23 goclark Aug 2012 #30
I think of it as a Death Voucher. :) TeamPooka Aug 2012 #34
Oh. My. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #11
"anything to get the focus off Mitt?" TeamPooka Aug 2012 #16
Considering Mitt's polling... Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #21
Pretty confident Biden will destroy him in the debate standingtall Aug 2012 #13
Rmoney and Ryan goclark Aug 2012 #17
So it sounds like the pain is spread out among the 99% more and the 1% skate by again... Tikki Aug 2012 #19
Wingnuts on Twitter think Ryan will destroy Biden. NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #20
Bring. It. On. TeamPooka Aug 2012 #22
I've always felt Joe let her off easy Floyd_Gondolli Aug 2012 #26
Palin, in seriousness, was in a basic way a tougher assignment BeyondGeography Aug 2012 #29
Joe treated her the way a trial attorney treats a completely wrong but mildly sympathetic witness alcibiades_mystery Aug 2012 #31
and he did it perfectly TeamPooka Aug 2012 #32
Biden has always been Obama's pit bull LynneSin Aug 2012 #24
Ryan struggles to string sentences together. ellisonz Aug 2012 #25
Biden wins by not losing Obama any points graham4anything Aug 2012 #27
show him the values! TeamPooka Aug 2012 #33
 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
4. I know, that Ryan budget is going to get a good going over in that debate.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:22 AM
Aug 2012

Now I wish there were more than one.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
5. Everyone thinks Biden is just a folksy cat, but he knows budgets backwards and forwards
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:24 AM
Aug 2012

It's going to be embarrassing...for Ryan.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
18. This should be extra revealing, because Ryan's budgets are usually just a bunch of hot air...
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 01:41 AM
Aug 2012

Charts with bold colors, and lots of columns and he stands in the front of the room like the Wizard of Oz and says nothing that makes any sense...

ashling

(25,771 posts)
6. My favorite Bidenism
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:35 AM
Aug 2012

"Don't tell me what your values are.

Show me your budget --

and I'll tell you what your values are."

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
28. The Ryan budget
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 04:19 AM
Aug 2012

shows he cares about making the ultra rich richer, and minimum wage jobs with no health care or pensions for the 99% lucky enough to have a job. For those without work - screw you, or pray.

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
8. This is gonna be good----
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:42 AM
Aug 2012

Fingers crossed that it's Ryan. Biden should be able to have that whippersnapper
begging for mercy. I know that Ryan thinks he is all that and a bag of chips, but
Biden has been around a long time. He is no pushover. I will be sitting on the
edge of my seat. Once details of that budget get parsed and rehashed, Ryan
might not be able to run for dog catcher. LOL All of us golden oldies will
come after him with canes and walkers. Medicare vouchers, indeed!

goclark

(30,404 posts)
30. Welcome to DU Grammy 23
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 08:01 AM
Aug 2012

I'm a Golden Oldie and he better not try to mess with our Medicare.

Video here at DU

Check out .....Paul Ryan Booed by Seniors at Townhall meeting 4/11

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
11. Oh. My.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 01:15 AM
Aug 2012

I'd not thought it out that far yet.

To be fair I'm behind a bit. After all, it's the bloody weekend. I was waxing my legs when this came down the pike!

What's his campaign thinking?!

standingtall

(2,787 posts)
13. Pretty confident Biden will destroy him in the debate
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 01:36 AM
Aug 2012

However still a little concerned no matter how bad Biden makes him look. The media will still say Ryan won the debate just, because he didn't trip and fall off the stage. Chris Matthews has promoted the fallacy several times that Palin won the debate against Biden. Although Biden made her look like a complete idiot.

Tikki

(14,560 posts)
19. So it sounds like the pain is spread out among the 99% more and the 1% skate by again...
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 01:51 AM
Aug 2012

How is that anything different than trickle down not trickling down?


Tikki

NYC Liberal

(20,137 posts)
20. Wingnuts on Twitter think Ryan will destroy Biden.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 01:51 AM
Aug 2012

Keep in mind, these are the very same people who thought in 2008 that Sarah Palin was a masterstroke of genius. She was also going to mop the floor with Biden.

 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
26. I've always felt Joe let her off easy
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 03:57 AM
Aug 2012

I think he could tell how helpless she was and was a good sport. Plus the race was basically over at that point. It'll be different with this nudnik.

BeyondGeography

(39,384 posts)
29. Palin, in seriousness, was in a basic way a tougher assignment
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 07:45 AM
Aug 2012

Joe's old school and he couldn't/wouldn't be seen as beating up the girl. He was slightly off balance in that debate.

This time, the gloves will be off. Tougher matchup intellectually, where Joe is no slouch, but very favorable in terms of emotion, where he shines.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
31. Joe treated her the way a trial attorney treats a completely wrong but mildly sympathetic witness
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:26 AM
Aug 2012

He didn't have to beat up on her. He just let her expose herself and kept the kid gloves on.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
27. Biden wins by not losing Obama any points
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 04:14 AM
Aug 2012

Biden IMHO will win by not losing or by a TKO.

Irony is that age is indeed important in Ryan's plans, and Biden will have the demographic punch behind him.

the rightwing spin will attempt to side with Ryan, but Biden is a suprisingly great debater and should not lose Obama any sleep.

For all the silly rightwing talk of Biden making mistakes, that in actuality is a good thing, because it humanized him and people watching love that trait and the honesty Biden speaks day to day for his entire career.

Remember, Obama is the incumbent, and leading the race, so Romney needs more than Obama needs to win.

And I don't see any blue state moving red, and in fact, Florida should be easily attainable(if it wasn't already) with the seniors being scared of Ryan.

Picking Ryan must mean that the repubs are privately already conceeding the loss of Florida
(and without Florida, Obama will get way over 325 electoral votes, so really, Romney/Ryan is going down to defeat and Ryan's purpose probably will be to attempt to hold the house.
(Too bad Ryan can still run for house at same time).

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