Elizabeth Warren's Bill Would Insist All People In Gov. Must Release Tax Returns

[Me.]

along with other wonderful mandates

[hlthe2b]

1. All people in government? or did you mean all elected Federal officials?

Surely she's not implying Federal workers?

[Me.]

4. Yes, You're Quite Right About The Distinction

the only thing is, I don't know if she was limiting it to just federally elected officials but all those elected to any gov. position.

[MichMan]

6. Why not all Federal employees ?

Why is it a distinction only if they are elected?

[hlthe2b]

8. You do realize the extremes of Federal employees. Even professionals are

underpaid compared to private sector, but the lowest level civil service employees make very little. To give up their privacy (and be forced to employee accountants to review their taxes, even when filing fairly simply returns because they were forced to make them public?). Not to mention having everyone able to review their finances, debts, and financial downturns.

When one runs for public office and thus can be influenced by those special interests or bribes, it only makes sense that they release their returns.

By contrast individual public workers are no different than private sector workers. THere is a reason why tax returns are private as a "given" for most Americans. Would YOU want to have your returns made public?

I don't know why you would think this to be appropriate. It is not.

[MichMan]

9. I was thinking of Federal Judges, Cabinet level officials , agency directors,

and many others who are not elected

Why are they off limits, but the local township clerk is not?

[hlthe2b]

10. they are FEDERAL OFFICIALS, not Federal employees. Agency directors appointed at the

Senior Executive Level (SES) are not civil servants but political appointees. They can certainly be considered as elected and appointed officials (as can elected and appointed judges), but it is really important not to imply that the "Joe Schmoe" Federal employee just trying to get by should somehow get caught up in this. That's the bulk of Federal employees.

[MichMan]

12. You were the one who made a distinction with ELECTED Federal officials, not me n/t

I was just stating it should apply to a lot more people.

Why should a high level pentagon employee not have to disclose, but a Detroit City council member would have to merely because one is elected and one isn't ?

[hlthe2b]

15. Yes.. warren is targeting elected Federal officials, as she should, but the OP did not specify that

and you specifically ASKED wy Federal EMPLOYEES should not have to. I realize a lot of people have misconceptions about Federal employees and the RW has certainly done their best to make it seem like they are all overpaid and largely unnecessary. So, it IS important to make the distinction.

As to your other issue with local township clerks, etc., Federal law does not cover state and local employees, so you surely should recognize the issue with your other question. It is not covered nor could it be by any Warren legislation.

[MichMan]

17. The OP offered nothing other than a poorly written headline

The OP offered no link or information other than the headline, which stated "Elizabeth Warren's bill would insist all people in government must release tax returns"

Didn't say elected,non elected, federal, state or local. I took it as it was written

[hlthe2b]

18. Which, is why I asked for clarification in the very first response to the OP, which you then

responded to.

[Orangepeel]

16. Why? Should we make everyone's public?

Ripe for abuse by stalkers, etc.

[hlthe2b]

19. Exactly... i am trying to be calm in my response, but to suggest that lowly employees

give up all privacy rights just to work for Federal government as civil servants is just ludicrous (and frankly something I'd expect from Fox news or the RW). That's why I've been trying to gain some clarification as I suspected there might be confusion.

[sheshe2]

2. I like this...and my Senator!

[dameatball]

3. I have not read the bill, but there should be defined timelines for submission.

[NurseJackie]

5. Go Lizzy, Go Lizzy, Go Lizzy!

Damn gurl! I love this!

[NCTraveler]

7. Nope. Not ok with that. Nt

[dalton99a]

11. Elizabeth Warren Wants the IRS to Release Tax Returns for Presidential Candidates

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elizabeth-warren-wants-the-irs-to-release-tax-returns-for-presidential-candidates
Elizabeth Warren Wants the IRS to Release Tax Returns for Presidential Candidates

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) has an idea to keep political candidates honest: release their tax returns prior to being elected.

As part of a sweeping legislative package the Massachusetts Democrat dubbed the Anti-Corruption and Public Integrity Act, Warren on Tuesday proposed that the Internal Revenue Service be required to release tax returns from the previous eight years for any presidential or vice presidential candidates.

The IRS would also do so for each year these individuals are in federal office. For congressional candidates, it would cover the previous two years before serving in office.

While the broader bill focuses on corruption and lobbying at all levels, this specific stipulation seems to aim directly at President Trump, who infamously won the presidency without ever disclosing his tax returns to the American public.

To enforce some of the proposals she outlined—including the banning of individual stock ownership for elected officials, a life-time ban on lobbying for presidents, vice presidents, members of Congress, federal judges, and cabinet secretaries, and a ban on American lobbyists from

[gulliver]

13. That's a big mistake.

It plays to the Dem reputation for priggishness which is a key support of the (justified) Republican reputation for corruption. We need to beat Republicans by sheer force of numbers at the polls. They won't allow themselves to be disqualified based on corruption, regardless of the level it reaches.

[brooklynite]

14. ...and it won't pass.

Beyond which, I’m not sure it’s Constitutional, since we don’t have a national election for President.