Gillum...I'm A Democrat of The Democratic Party Variety

[Me.]

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on MTP when asked about his ties to socialism

Edited to add...Yikes...Didn't even notice I did that and so dislike when others, especially Cons, do it. He said it correctly, I wrote it incorrectly

[lpbk2713]

1. I like this guy.

[Cha]

2. Mahalo Me for the report from Andrew on MTP.

[Me.]

12. ...

[RockaFowler]

3. Love him more and more

He's the real deal. I'll say it again - so glad I voted for him yesterday

[mcar]

37. Me too!

[aikoaiko]

5. Go Gillum Go!

Ack. Auto correct wanted Gollum.

[lunamagica]

6. A true, life-long Democrat

[scarytomcat]

8. of the Democratic Party

[tazkcmo]

25. Thank you

I never let that "Democrat Party" slur go unchallenged, no matter who says it.

[proglib217]

69. Same here

Few things rankle my feathers more than when the DEMOCRATIC party is referred to as the "Democrat" party.

[JI7]

7. he is mayor isn't he ? he has an actual record they could look at

but instead that prefer empty shit.

[Me.]

11. I'll Tell You What I Liked

he owned who he is and where he stands. His mother told him (paraphrasing) that if you tell the truth and don't lie you'll never get in trouble.

[Cha]

21. Yeah, typical M$$M lazy empty shite.

[guillaumeb]

9. Which tells one nothing about his actual beliefs.

Joe Manchin is also a Democrat, as is Elizabeth Warren. But a label does not reveal the voting record.

[Honeycombe8]

26. I think people think he's progressive, since Sanders endorsed him.

Sanders doesn't normally endorse moderates or establishment politicians.

[guillaumeb]

56. Agreed. eom

[gratuitous]

10. Isn't it nice when chucktodd asks the spurious question?

Saves the smear merchants the trouble of having to show up for a panel discussion. If he has DeSantis on, will chucktodd run down the list of racist things DeSantis has said and endorsed and ask him about his ties to racists? Or would that be impolite?

Gillum just has to endorse the party platform, and come out in favor of any number of very popular Democratic positions on the issues. But you wouldn't know that by listening to the political geniuses who dominate our public discourse. Instead, we're treated to questions about ties to socialism (which actually polls pretty well among the younger voters). How about some questions on climate change or worker pay and their right to organize, chucktodd?

[ehrnst]

18. Yep.(nt)

[malaise]

19. Great post but Dems must learn to pivot to their issues. They must not let the Fuckie's

of M$Greedia define the agenda.

[recentevents]

87. I watched the interview

looked like he did a really good job. He was plain spoken enough that even the knuckleheads could agree with what he was saying. I really liked when he said Florida has to stop being a cheap date and making big business pay. (when asked if he would create an income tax) That's going to be a big one for the Cons, claiming he's going to tax people, when that's not his plan. His plan is to stop giving the state away to big moneyed business

[Me.]

98. Knuckleheads

It's been a long time since I heard that term

[Honeycombe8]

31. Yes, he probably will.

Chuck Todd is an excellent interviewer. People slide things by him sometimes, but for the most part, he doesn't let evasive answers or weirdness get by him. Like his response to Ghouliani's "truth is not truth" answer to a question. Ghouliani moved on, but Todd stopped him in mid-sentence with "wait..wait..truth is truth.."

I like Meet the Press to be balanced. The purpose of that show is different from the MSNBC prime time lineup, which is also excellent. And I do want Todd to ask controversial or hard questions to all guests.

[uponit7771]

34. +1, no he won't

[JHan]

64. ++++++++

[brer cat]

13. From what I am learning about him,

he seems to be a very comfortable Democrat and obviously his own man. I don't think he needs anyone else to tell him what to think or how to prioritize the needs of Floridians.

[Me.]

14. It Was A Very Smart, Confident Interview

[pnwmom]

15. And he was a Hillary Clinton delegate.

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2016/05/22/gillum-delegate-hillary-clinton/84740118/

Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum will be on Team Hillary when Democrats meet this summer to pick their presidential nominee.

Gillum was selected during a party gathering Saturday in Orlando as one of Hillary Clinton's delegates to the Democratic National Convention, set for July 25-28 in Philadelphia.

The former secretary of state got nearly two-thirds of the vote — and a corresponding chunk of delegates — when she scored a decisive victory over rival Bernie Sanders in Florida's March primary. The mayor campaigned for her in Tallahassee and elsewhere, including South Carolina, an important early primary state.

"It is a real honor to be selected as a delegate to the Democratic National Convention for Secretary Clinton," Gillum said. "I am looking forward to enthusiastically casting a vote for the candidate that is the most qualified to be president and the one who has a concrete plan to continue the progress of President Obama's administration."

[Me.]

16. Not Surprised

[hay rick]

28. He was a Hillary supporter and then Bernie Sanders endorsed him for governor.

The differences between Hillary Democrats and Bernie Democrats are vastly exaggerated. The media and people who would rather complain than work for change cling to the Bernie/Hillary split story.

[mac2766]

54. Bingo

A spot on statement.

[Lisa0825]

78. BAM!

Well said!

[ehrnst]

17. Yep. That's the Hillary-style inclusivity there. (nt)

[betsuni]

20. K&R

[Az_lefty]

22. I like the guy, wish I could vote for him

[Bernardo de La Paz]

23. Did you misspell Democratic Party or did Gillum misspeak?

[Me.]

72. I Didn't Even Notice I Did That

In fact get annoyed when others, especially Cons, do it

[Honeycombe8]

24. Someone needs to tell him it's the "Democratic Party," not "DemocRAT Party."

If that's what he said. The latter is a sarcastic slang the Repubs started using a few years ago.

We have a "Democratic Party Platform."
Nancy Pelosi is the "Democratic Leader" in the House of Rep (see her twitter acct)

I hate to see the Republicans succeed in changing our party name to their sarcastic slur (what they intended as a slur). They don't like that our party uses the word "Democratic."

[Ccarmona]

29. A Person Is A Democrat; The Party He or She Belongs to is the Democratic Party

Nuff said.

[Honeycombe8]

33. Yes. That's what I said. nt

[maddiemom]

50. Democrat: proper noun; Democratic: adjective/ predicate adjective...a modifier.

I cringe when it seems the Repugs have slyly converted a Democrat to this usage.

[sl8]

40. Link to video, "I'm a Democrat. I ran as a Democrat. ..."

...
I'm a Democrat. I ran as a Democrat. I am a Democrat. And, frankly, the values that I hold are consistent with the values of the Democratic Party.
...

Video:
https://www.msnbc.com/mtp-daily/watch/full-andrew-gillum-i-have-been-unapologetic-in-my-beliefs-1309249603595?v=railb
Or,
http://www.msnbc.com/mtp-daily/episodes#!#full-episodes

(starting ~ 7:45)

[Honeycombe8]

44. I said in my post..."If he said that...."

Glad to hear Gillum got the party name right! But the OP should take note. I've seen the incorrect slur of the name being used more often on tv these days. We can't let it slide, so that the Republicans end up taking the party's correct name away.

[Me.]

83. Thank You

[sl8]

86. De nada. n/t

[MrsCoffee]

68. Indeed.

[Me.]

74. Not Him

me...see edited OP

[Cha]

81. I didn't even notice..

[Me.]

82. Too Cool For School Cha

[Cha]

84. :)

[Honeycombe8]

88. Yes, someone told me. Glad to hear it!

Not that you made a boo boo. That he used the correct party name!

[David__77]

27. I'm glad that so many are supporting him!

...

[David__77]

30. I like his style of addressing this.

Gillum’s support from Bernie Sanders, a “Democratic socialist,” was questioned.

“These labels are insignificant when it comes to everyday life of people in the state … I’m a Democrat and an individual who believes people have had a rough ride in this state … these labels are easy to throw on folks,” Gillum said, “but mean nothing.”

Gillum also described himself as “the most qualified candidate” in the race, given his tenure in Tallahassee, noting that “business experience” doesn’t equate to governing aptitude.

Gillum went on to invoke a Koch Brothers study that said Medicare for All would save the health care system money, saying that Medicaid expansion would be an immediate priority, were he to be elected.

http://floridapolitics.com/archives/271377-jax-dem-forum

“No, I’m a Democrat. I ran as a Democrat, I am a Democrat. And frankly, the values that I hold are consistent with the values of the Democratic Party.”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/andrew-gillum-responds-to-trump-calling-him-failed-socialist-its-no-surprise-hes-creating-fairy-tales/


I'm glad he expressed no defensiveness on the issues.

[mcar]

38. He is down to Earth and doesn't get caught up in the media's labels

I really like the way he responds - he gives holistic policies to solve problems.

[onetexan]

43. love how matter-of-fact and absolute his response was

i like this guy

[lapucelle]

51. Did Gillum talk about the Mercatus study in today's interview? N/T

[David__77]

52. I don't know.

The quote I posted that referenced that wasn’t from today.

[neurochaos]

32. I live in Miami...

… and hadn’t heard of (noticed) Gullim before last night; and was initially happy with the whole underdog winning the nomination. But as they talked about some of his stances on some issues, and the history of Democrats winning the Governorship here I felt like he would probably lose. And I’m the same Black guy who voted for Hillary in the 2008 primaries because I didn’t think a Black guy had a chance in Hell of becoming President. But then this morning when I was making a delivery to someone who I’ve never talked politics with came at me all excited and getty about Gillim winning. She asked me if I voted yesterday (I didn’t) and then said she couldn’t wait until November. She said he would win. So now I’m looking at how he could galvanize so many to come out like Obama did.

[Honeycombe8]

45. You didn't vote? Yikes! Why not? nt

[rzemanfl]

59. I have to wash my socks. n/t

[MaryMagdaline]

93. I'm feeling the excitement here in Broward as well

I voted for Levine but there is something great about a 39 year old candidate. He is the future. We’ve needed new blood and it’s great to have it.

I really really like how he does not mince words. He doesn’t kowtow to gun owners and he says certain guns should be off the streets. He’s for expanding Medicaid and plainly tells everyone that the state loses money because Florida did not expand Medicaid. He has a sharp, to the point message. Like an accountant with charisma. He will be great at the top of the ticket.

[Me.]

96. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[mcar]

35. Perfect!

[NurseJackie]

36. ...

Excellent.

[Eliot Rosewater]

39. He did that, used the wrong word TWICE?

[Honeycombe8]

47. Are you referring to the "Democrat" reference?

I and someone else noticed, too.

It looks like Gillum used the correct party name "Democratic Party." It's the OP who used the wrong word. (But a member of the Democratic Party is a "Democrat.)

[Ms. Toad]

53. And that's why I find this fixation on Democratic v. Democrat annoying.

A Democratic candidate for office (,ay have) got(ten) it wrong.
And at least one person on DU knows there's something wrong with "Democrat," but not actually what is wrong.
Perhaps another quoted Gillum incorrectly - either in an attempt to correct him, or because they don't understand which is correct, or that it makes a difference.

I grew up with good Democrats, 5 decades ago, who called the party they belonged to the Democrat Party. To be grammatically correct, it should be the Democratic Party - but the meaning is clear, even if the party is referred to as the Democrat party. There are lots of people on our side who grew up using the wrong word for decades, (long before the current hypersensitivity because Republican jerks discovered how easy it was to yank our chain).

[SidDithers]

41. DU rec...

Go Democrats.

Sid

[NurseJackie]

42. Very smart of him to know whom to embrace and whom not to.

[mac2766]

55. who did he NOT embrace?

[NurseJackie]

57. You figure it out.

[mac2766]

60. Say the name...

Say Bernie.

If Bernie Sanders hadn't endorsed him, he would have been vilified for not having endorsed him. But since he did endorse Andrew Gillum, a man that I voted for in the primaries - early - before Bernie endorsed him and when he was an extreme underdog, Bernie is somehow being vilified. Not sure why.

Both Andrew Gillum and Bernie Sanders support an agenda that makes sense for this country, and the state that I live in. How is that a bad thing? I'm not going to argue anything else. Just that point.

[NurseJackie]

61. ...

[mac2766]

63. I don't know you and certainly have no disdain for you.

But I believe the anti-Bernie opinions do far more harm than good. Bernie Sanders promotes an agenda that makes sense for our country. What made America great were the laws that were passed after WWII and the great depression by a great Democrat. If we all took a hard look at just what FDR did for our country, and compared the agenda being promoted by Bernie Sanders, and by candidates like Andrew Gillum, we'd see that the two agendas are very similar. The separation that is being generated by the anti-Bernie folks just makes me sad.

Just for the record. I proudly voted for Bernie Sanders in the primaries. I proudly cast my vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election. I will again vote for Bernie - proudly - if he runs again in 2020, but if he loses the nomination, I'll cast my vote for whomever is nominated as a Democrat.

Go Andrew Gillum!!!

[NurseJackie]

66. ...

[mac2766]

67. Nothing?

I guess we're finished.

[NurseJackie]

70. Six messages ago.

[mac2766]

71. I give up.

You are superior.

Can't engage in an intelligent conversation, but superior non-the-less. You win.

[recentevents]

85. Indeed

[link:|

[NurseJackie]

90. Oh... you thought I meant it LITERALLY?

Welcome back!

[recentevents]

99. I knew exactly what you meant

So does everyone else.

Just wondering, where did you think I went? Welcome back?

[MBS]

46. He was really good on MTP Daily tonight. n/t

[oberliner]

48. "Democrat Party" ??

It's Democratic Party.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

49. Let it go

You are right, but this guy has to speak to folks north of I-4.

[LAS14]

75. Gillum was right. The OP misquoted. nt

[mac2766]

58. Is what Andrew Gillum stands for less important than

the fact that you are taking offense to the fact that he mis-used a word?

I'm really sorry that I have to ask this question. It blows me away what people are offended by today.

Can't we just enjoy the fact that a candidate has been nominated that we can all agree to be a perfect example of one that we want to have running as a Democrat? And he is.

Unless I die before the election. I will vote for him. A second time.

Oh yes. I need to mention... If Bernie runs again in 2020, I will proudly vote for him. Again.

[R B Garr]

62. Re: socialism--a post I saw earlier but can't find now....Gillum was just on Cuomo's show

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and Cuomo was asking him about the cost of Medicare 4 All. This is what I was thinking would happen, where the other supporters will be forced to answer questions about the cost of Medicare for All while others get a total pass for years without having to answer the hard questions. Gillum was asked why Vermont passed on it and he had to answer that it was too expensive. Gillum stated that it is too expensive even for his state and it would have to be a coalition of states. This is the kind of thing that someone else should be taking the heat for and answering for so that other supporters don't get left holding the bag with these questions.

[JHan]

65. Well according to the logic of some .... him saying those things...

means he's against single payer and Universal Health Care. /sarcasm.

[R B Garr]

73. Yes, I've seen that, too. Any talk of costs means you are

a RWer. Only applause lines allowed and then leave the hard stuff for the Democrats.

[peggysue2]

76. Gillum's answer as to where he . . .

stood politically was clear, definitive and unapologetic. He's a Democrat with governing experience and has expressed his eagerness to expand Medicaid as a first step, begin improving Florida's growing environmental problems and improve educational opportunities for Florida's kids. He's also taken a strong stance on gun regulation.

As with O'Rourke in Texas, he sounds like a man who will not back down from his positions--state the positions clearly, defend them calmly with respect and carry on. We need more of this because it explodes the Republican framing strategy--defining our candidates before they can define themselves.

Sounds like a sound Democrat to me who has energized the race with an unexpected win. I'm not a Floridian so I can't cast a vote. But I certainly would if I could.

[Me.]

77. Excellent Analysis

[Cha]

80. "... a strong stance on gun regulation.." Thank You, PeggySue!

Great Analysis!

[herding cats]

79. I like him.

When Julian Castro endorsed him I took a closer look, even though he's not in my state, which makes it not my race to butt into but I wanted to know what one of my favorite Castro brothers saw in him. It was obvious to me he had potential to grow in the Democratic Party and his policy and manner could work in the complicated electorate of Florida. I'm happy to see he won.

After his win I've been listening to him more and he reminds me a lot of Beto. Who is in my state and also amazing, articulate and another rising star, unless I miss my bet. It'll be a happy day if they both can manage to flip their seats in November!

[Gothmog]

89. K&R

Link to tweet

[yardwork]

91. Thank you for correcting!

[MaryMagdaline]

92. Gillum was 21 years old and youngest person ever on Tallahassee city commission

He’s only 39 but he’s been at this a long time. Knows what he is doing. Handles press very easily.

[Gothmog]

94. From Lawrence O'Donnel

Link to tweet

[Me.]

95. Brilliant

[honest.abe]

97. Good.

That was the right answer. Too bad Bernie can't respond the same way.