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My heart goes out to Meghan who is grieving so hard. (Original Post) mfcorey1 Aug 2018 OP
Mine too... HipChick Aug 2018 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #2
Please explain. CurtEastPoint Aug 2018 #3
Likely this is/was on TV... moriah Aug 2018 #4
Who is Megha and why is he/she grieving? fleur-de-lisa Aug 2018 #5
That is my question. Megha? CurtEastPoint Aug 2018 #13
IDK!! mfcorey1 Aug 2018 #15
I remember when my dad died..it goes to the heart...that was twenty years ago - asiliveandbreathe Aug 2018 #6
She's a bit over the top IMO, even Cindy was giving her "the look." She needs to pull herself monmouth4 Aug 2018 #7
She clearly can't. Tucker08087 Aug 2018 #8
I've always said I could walk off the street into a stranger's funeral and cry. Frustratedlady Aug 2018 #30
Right. It's important we instruct people how to act in case of family death. LanternWaste Aug 2018 #9
Exactly. Do not reveal the level of profound grief you feel from loss of a loved one. MoonRiver Aug 2018 #26
IKR? Grieving is so beta. John Fante Aug 2018 #29
Really? Docreed2003 Aug 2018 #40
I think LanternWaste forgot the sarcasm smilie. N//t john657 Aug 2018 #45
I think you're probably correct Docreed2003 Aug 2018 #46
Meh. john657 Aug 2018 #57
Jesus. We're grief patrolling now? nolabear Aug 2018 #10
JFC...yes...Let her be...I attended a funeral..4 sons HipChick Aug 2018 #11
I had a friend who attended someone's wake where the family was very stoic nolabear Aug 2018 #12
When my father in law died I was the only one who cried at his funeral. GreenEyedLefty Aug 2018 #20
I agree! What is decorum for grief supposed to be? It is better to release it than holding mfcorey1 Aug 2018 #16
She needs to be left to grieve. Norbert Aug 2018 #47
Yep. She'll go back to being her regularly scheduled asshole self next week. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #55
I saw a picture with arteries in her neck swelling. Blue_true Aug 2018 #22
You can't be fucking serious... ADX Aug 2018 #31
What you said. john657 Aug 2018 #34
Why? wasupaloopa Aug 2018 #38
How can you judge that someone else's grief is "over the top?" EffieBlack Aug 2018 #56
Yes, she's taking it very hard. jalan48 Aug 2018 #14
I don't like her at all but I'm not going to judge her Mosby Aug 2018 #18
I think she was just overwhelmed in the moment. It happened to me at a friend's funeral. jalan48 Aug 2018 #19
Planning the funeral is a big distraction Rorey Aug 2018 #53
What about Bridget? oberliner Aug 2018 #17
She seemed kind of lost. That's how some respond too. nolabear Aug 2018 #21
You know, that first death of a parent... yallerdawg Aug 2018 #23
Hit me hardest the second time around. WillowTree Aug 2018 #37
it happened to me when I was 7 gopiscrap Aug 2018 #44
Oh geez. MontanaMama Aug 2018 #51
Thanks it's was pretty dramatic gopiscrap Aug 2018 #59
The video I watched of the family was . . . peggysue2 Aug 2018 #24
Yes, I saw her crying at the funeral. MoonRiver Aug 2018 #25
From all appearances, she loved him very much Bettie Aug 2018 #27
I don't care how wealthy the McCains are, traveling for a funeral sucks. RandySF Aug 2018 #28
My heart goes out too the whole family. Soxfan58 Aug 2018 #32
Grieving the death of a loved one, knowing they are gone, day after day... nocoincidences Aug 2018 #33
So true. Tucker08087 Aug 2018 #35
and yet pigs like dotard still live demtenjeep Aug 2018 #49
My issue with her is that Trump treated her father like dirt helpisontheway Aug 2018 #36
My feelings exactly blueinredohio Aug 2018 #39
I watch the view marlakay Aug 2018 #41
Yes, the father-daughter bond can be a strong one. tosh Aug 2018 #50
Mine, too - to her and the entire family. highplainsdem Aug 2018 #42
... Evergreen Emerald Aug 2018 #43
I lost my daddy when I was 30. He died on his official retirement day of leukemia demtenjeep Aug 2018 #48
It was pretty heartbreaking Rorey Aug 2018 #52
Her raw grief really touched my heart. EffieBlack Aug 2018 #54
My heart goes out to the whole family and Meghan...... Upthevibe Aug 2018 #58

Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
6. I remember when my dad died..it goes to the heart...that was twenty years ago -
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 02:11 PM
Aug 2018

Today I remember my dad for his calmness - his strong work ethic - I can appreciate how Meghan feels today...

monmouth4

(9,708 posts)
7. She's a bit over the top IMO, even Cindy was giving her "the look." She needs to pull herself
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 02:24 PM
Aug 2018

together like adults do.

Tucker08087

(621 posts)
8. She clearly can't.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 03:22 PM
Aug 2018

She probably had been until something kicked in today. MANY people are medicated before services. And the whole world isn’t watching. I’m thinking that if they realized her level of hysteria (and I don’t mean any negative connotation there-simply a loss of emotional control), they would have medicated her beforehand. Or she turned it down, trying to be brave, and simply couldn’t do it. I have a relative who can’t do funerals. The overwhelming grief of others breaks her every time. I’m the stiff upper lip sort, which is why I’m often asked to speak. Then I’ll be sick for days later. One way or another, you can’t hide from grief. She’s young. It may be her first great loss.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
30. I've always said I could walk off the street into a stranger's funeral and cry.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 07:56 PM
Aug 2018

Same with most weddings. Otherwise, I have total control. Go figure.

Meghan was pretty close to her dad. Even if you know death is close, you are never truly prepared. Give her some space and let her grieve in her own way. She is an emotional person and I'm sure her thoughts are other places than public appearance. She is still "with her dad" and will be for a while. We all handle grief in different ways and in different timeframes. Let her handle it in her own way.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. Right. It's important we instruct people how to act in case of family death.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 03:24 PM
Aug 2018

It must be done professionally and without passion.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
26. Exactly. Do not reveal the level of profound grief you feel from loss of a loved one.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 07:51 PM
Aug 2018

After all, there's a time and a place....oh, wait.

Docreed2003

(16,864 posts)
40. Really?
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 08:35 PM
Aug 2018

I was 30 and a physician and I cried like a damn baby when my father, my best friend, died. I certainly showed "passion" when I delivered his eulogy!

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
10. Jesus. We're grief patrolling now?
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 03:30 PM
Aug 2018

You have a very limited view of “acceptable” displays of grief. I feel sad for her. She’s lost someone she clearly loved very much. Let her be.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
11. JFC...yes...Let her be...I attended a funeral..4 sons
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 04:17 PM
Aug 2018

over 6ft tall, built like rugby players, were crying and heaving ....all I could do is supply them tissues...Let her be for gawdness sake

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
12. I had a friend who attended someone's wake where the family was very stoic
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 04:33 PM
Aug 2018

but the next door neighbor and good friend of the deceased, an African immigrant, showed up and collapsed in a heap, crying out his name and wailing about his agony that his friend was gone. She said some of the guests were very uncomfortable, but the family and other guests felt he reflected what they were feeling even if they’d had it trained out of them.

I was incensed at the minister at my father’s funeral (and he was an officiate-my father didn’t go to church) complimenting the family on not “carrying on the way some people do.” Bastard. That’s a lousy misuse of his profession and role.

“Rage, rage against the dying of the light’”

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
20. When my father in law died I was the only one who cried at his funeral.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 07:05 PM
Aug 2018

My husband and the rest of the family were stoic. I was going through the tissues. What can I say, I loved the guy.

That said, DH went to bed after work for a couple of weeks. Grief takes all forms.

Norbert

(6,040 posts)
47. She needs to be left to grieve.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 11:04 PM
Aug 2018

People grieve in different ways. I'm not so sure she isn't better off letting it out.

And yes. My heart goes out to her as well. It isn't easy losing a parent. I, for one, know what she is going through.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
55. Yep. She'll go back to being her regularly scheduled asshole self next week.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 11:58 PM
Aug 2018

I can wait till then to still hate her.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. I saw a picture with arteries in her neck swelling.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 07:10 PM
Aug 2018

She is grieving big. It looks very real to me and only she has her reasons.

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
31. You can't be fucking serious...
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 07:57 PM
Aug 2018

...This woman is obviously distraught over the death of her beloved father; who are you to suggest how she should or should not express her grief?

For fucks sake...

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
56. How can you judge that someone else's grief is "over the top?"
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 12:00 AM
Aug 2018

And since I don’t think you’re an intimate of Cindy McCain and her family, I doubt any of us is any position to interpret her expression vis a vis her daughter.

Good Lord - Meghan McCain’s beloved father just died, her heart is obviously broken and she must grieve in front of the world. It’s not her responsibility to “pull herself together.” If that child wants to fall out on the floor and wail at the top of her lungs for her beloved father, that’s her own damned business and it’s not up to any of us to judge or criticize her.

Mosby

(16,319 posts)
18. I don't like her at all but I'm not going to judge her
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 05:34 PM
Aug 2018

Other than to say it is a little different when you know your loved one is terminally ill, it's not like it was a car accident or something, she had time to prepare.

Regardless, people deal with grief differently.

When I found out about my dad's terminal cancer I cried like a baby, but after his death (same with Mom) I had a lot to do and didn't have time for grieving.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
53. Planning the funeral is a big distraction
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 11:46 PM
Aug 2018

I don't know if it helps or hinders. The grief is going to happen. I guess sometimes it's good to have that distraction so we can take breaks from our overwhelming emotions.

I remember when my husband died, I was so involved in everything because I had to be. The rest of his family weren't able, I suppose. Then right before the service I started panicking, kind of like i would do if I was throwing a party. I started worrying that nobody would come. Silly me.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
21. She seemed kind of lost. That's how some respond too.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 07:09 PM
Aug 2018

The other daughter-Sydney?-was stoic but looked worn out. The men seemed to favor militarylike comportment. People are just different, aren’t they? They’re going to have a long week.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
23. You know, that first death of a parent...
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 07:15 PM
Aug 2018

is when we personally touch our own mortality - and feel the reality of it.

I can see how this is such a traumatic event to her. I feel my own pain.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
37. Hit me hardest the second time around.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 08:25 PM
Aug 2018

When Mom died, I felt as if there could never be anything more lonely. And then I lost my Father and it damned near broke me. Then again, I was a total Daddy's Girl my whole life, so that had a lot to do with it, too.

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
59. Thanks it's was pretty dramatic
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 01:45 AM
Aug 2018

my dad died because of injuries sustained while fighting in vietnam he died one week before Christmas when I was 7 years old

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
24. The video I watched of the family was . . .
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 07:46 PM
Aug 2018

very emotional. Cindy McCain placed her cheek against the coffin and Meghan was completely undone. The whole family looks crushed by McCain's death. We don't have to agree on the family's' politics but one thing is perfectly clear: McCain was well loved. Grief and loss are universal, something we all ultimately experience. It's hard not to respond and feel real empathy for this family.

nocoincidences

(2,220 posts)
33. Grieving the death of a loved one, knowing they are gone, day after day...
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 08:02 PM
Aug 2018

You think that their
dying is the worst
thing that could happen.

Then they stay dead.

Donald Hall, from Distressed Haiku

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
36. My issue with her is that Trump treated her father like dirt
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 08:22 PM
Aug 2018

(even after he was diagnosed with terminal cancer) then she takes up for Trump on The View. I will admit that I don’t watch The View daily but have witnessed her defending Trump several times.

marlakay

(11,476 posts)
41. I watch the view
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 08:41 PM
Aug 2018

She rarely agrees with Trump but is more conservative than she used to be because of her new husband. He is more conservative than her and has influenced her a lot.

I can tell she loves her dad like I did, this brings up feelings I had after my dad died. The pic she gave him of the two of them sitting and talking reminds me of how close me and my dad were.

tosh

(4,423 posts)
50. Yes, the father-daughter bond can be a strong one.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 11:24 PM
Aug 2018

Some of us are fortunate to have (had) that. I had that with my dad and I could see after McCain’s diagnosis that Meghan did too. Her grief will be long and hard.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
48. I lost my daddy when I was 30. He died on his official retirement day of leukemia
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 11:17 PM
Aug 2018

He was diagnosed Dec 31 in 1996 and died March 31 1997 Exactly 3 months from diagnosed to deceased.

I took it incredibly hard. My youngest child was 4 and also took it hard. She was Grandpas girl.

Losing a parent is extremely gut wrenching. Even though it has been 20+ years it still sometimes feels like yesterday.


It will take her a while to even be able to smile.


I think she is a RW lunatic but I am one with her grief.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
52. It was pretty heartbreaking
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 11:38 PM
Aug 2018

I'm stoic in public. I lose it when I'm by myself.

I didn't cry a single tear at my previous husband's memorial service, just as I hadn't cried a tear at his bedside when he was in the ICU for 9 days. I did some pretty major falling apart in the hospital chapel the night before he died. After the shock of his death wore off, I had regular middle-of-the-night sobbing sessions for a long, long time.

We each handle things in our own way, and I'd never judge someone's grief. I wish Ben had gotten up and pulled his chair over to her and hugged her. I suppose there was protocol, but maybe it would have helped her.

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