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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 10:33 AM Aug 2018

Inside McCain's surprise eulogy invitation to Obama

A parting lesson in American civility from Sen. John McCain lies in the roster of leaders he personally selected to pay tribute at his memorial service Saturday at the National Cathedral.

It was a day in early April when Barack Obama received an unexpected call from McCain, who was battling brain cancer and said he had a blunt question to ask: Would you deliver one of the eulogies at my funeral?

Obama, who is responsible for extinguishing McCain's second bid for the White House a decade ago, immediately answered that he would. He was taken aback by the request, aides say, as was George W. Bush, another former rival, who received a similar call from McCain this spring.

When the 43rd and 44th US presidents stand on the high altar of the soaring cathedral on Saturday, after the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" anthem is played, they will not only be celebrating the life of John Sidney McCain III. It will be McCain, too, having a not-so-subtle last word, aimed at another president he made clear he did not want to attend: Donald J. Trump.

While neither of the two former presidents were especially close to McCain in life, he and Bush were fellow Republicans, forged together for better or worse, through policy and party loyalty. After a deeply personal and vitriolic primary fight in 2000, McCain went on to endorse Bush and occasionally campaigned with him four years later.

But McCain's decision to invite Obama to speak at his funeral stands out as far more extraordinary, given their brutal and bitter rivalry during the 2008 presidential race.

I had a daily ringside seat to their feud, covering the campaign for The New York Times, chronicling their fights over the Iraq war and, later, the economy. On those subjects, and many more, McCain viewed Obama as naïve and unprepared for the presidency. To be clear, those critiques lingered long after Obama won, particularly on matters of national security.

So, I've been wondering whether McCain and Obama had somehow developed an intimate relationship after Obama left office, if they had been having quiet conversations over the last year or two that haven't been publicly discussed as McCain neared the end of his journey.

It turns out, after talking to several friends of both men this week, their relationship isn't intimate at all, but rather one rooted in mutual respect and a shared sense of alarm at today's caustic political climate. Their telephone call on that April day was first arranged by advisers, not McCain simply dialing up Obama as he would do with his legion of friends, a sign they were hardly tight.

In fact, the two have spoken by phone only a couple of times since Obama left the White House, aides to both men say, most notably last summer when Obama reached out after McCain cast the deciding vote to salvage the Affordable Care Act. He thanked him. The call was brief.

Obama has not been among the long parade of visitors who came to see McCain on his Arizona ranch as he fought brain cancer. George and Laura Bush dropped by not long ago, as did former Vice President Joe Biden, a close and longtime friend of McCain's in the Senate, who will deliver a eulogy at a memorial service on Thursday in Arizona.

But McCain's decision to ask Obama and Bush to eulogize him is part of a carefully choreographed -- and, yes, even strategic -- message for America and the world in the wake of his death. It's also perhaps, one last opportunity for McCain to try and tamp down a fervor that first awoke in the Republican Party during his 2008 race and has swelled ever since.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/inside-mccains-surprise-eulogy-invitation-to-obama/ar-BBMzQDX?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=mailsignout

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calimary

(81,322 posts)
12. That is one helluva great quote!
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 01:36 PM
Aug 2018

So true.

While I had my issues with John McCain, I very much appreciate his parting words, and deeds. I guess it’s what can happen when you KNOW you’re looking at the end of the road close-up.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
3. This pretty much says it all
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 10:48 AM
Aug 2018
Not mincing words, as McCain rarely did, one of his friends explained it like this: Trump has made it far easier for McCain to bury the hatchet with Bush and Obama.


And in burying the hatchet he sticks it to Trump and to Nutjob World.

TygrBright

(20,762 posts)
4. One of the things on the "shining and stellar" side of McCain's complex ledger...
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 11:45 AM
Aug 2018

...(for me, that is), was his concession speech after the 2008 election, in which he rose above his messy, borderline-disgusting campaign rhetoric and the spectacular fail of his Veep choice, to acknowledge the quality of his opponent and his opponent's campaign. And expressed the hope, and encouraged his GOP voters, to look at the possibilities for working together on dealing with some of the horrific challenges that loomed at that time.

Remembering what was on the landscape in November of 2008- the economic catastrophe playing out, the mired-in-the-Middle East state of our military, the ongoing health care crisis, the growing awareness of climate change-- not to mention the resurgence of authoritarian adventurism from Putin's Russia (it never was "Medvedev's Russia" )- there was a real possibility that had the GOP gone anywhere except straight to "brick wall" mode, America would have been in a much better place by now.

McCain knew that, too. I think he wanted to rub GOP noses in it one last time.

Obama will do right by him.

appreciatively,
Bright

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
5. I'd also like to think
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 11:45 AM
Aug 2018

that at the heart of his request, he had in mind Obama's touching tributes to others, including his singing "Amazing Grace," at the funeral of those parishioners mowed down by a white supremacist in church. I believe he knew it would be a "fine" eulogy and quite befitting an American hero.

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
6. McCain was a worthy adversary
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 12:27 PM
Aug 2018

Obama lucked out to run against McCain and Romney in his elections. They don't make Republicans like they used to.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
7. Not at all impressed by his request....not one smidget.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 01:01 PM
Aug 2018

McCain recognized that President Obama was a decent, honest and articulate head of state, and he recognized that the words he would share in a eulogy would be kind, respectful and impressive. McCain chose Obama for that...nothing more.

Now, I wasn't inside his head when he asked President Obama to do him the honor, but if I was to chose ANYONE to speak at my funeral, it would be President Obama..even if he didn't know me, even if he knew me and didn't care for me, regardless.... McCain wanted to be "glorified and honored". No one better to do that then President Obama, who he fought tooth and nail in Congress for eight years.

I'm not impressed one fucking bit. Once again, McCain was covering his own ass. Consider W is going to speak.....let that sink in. Remember his speeches as preznit?? A complete, incompetent moron. Unable to even pronounce half the words on the teleprompter.

Just give me a break. President Obama will speak kind and well of the senator. He will omit all the ugly parts of his behavior and the stupid attempts at humor that were embarrassing to anyone with an ounce of intelligence. McCain invited President Obama to speak, because he knew damned good and well it was going to "elevate himself" in the eyes of the American public and the world. Nothing more.

Boomerproud

(7,955 posts)
8. I really hope that the request was genuine and
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 01:10 PM
Aug 2018

President Obama isn't being used as a prop or simply as a swipe at 45.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
10. I have really mixed feelings, too.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 01:17 PM
Aug 2018

If he had learned to respect Obama, wouldn't it have been more fitting to express it by giving Merrick Garland a hearing, rather than this window dressing effort after it was too late to assist Obama with any of this efforts to govern in a fair and reasoned manner?

I'm really struggling with this.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
14. I know exactly how you feel, LisaM.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 01:40 PM
Aug 2018

Perhaps if he sincerely wanted to make a positive gesture to President Obama, he could have done so with his votes and his position of prominence in the Senate. Merrick Garland much?

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
16. I'm not impressed either, but not for the same reasons.
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 03:02 PM
Aug 2018

I think it is nothing more than a huge "F You" to Trump, whom McCain despised. The final message, eulogy invitations, and pallbearer choice all are indicative of McCain as he was. Someone who fought his opponents and fought them hard. I'm not dancing on his grave by any means, but I'm going to acknowledge what he was. A down and dirty politician with a veneer of polish current Republicans lack who fought for policies I vehemently disagreed with. I do think he regretted what the GOP enabled and wrought with Trump, but I don't think his funeral planning was any more altruistic or less calculating than his legislating.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
17. Those "brainwashed fox sheep" had to be prevented from posting on McCain threads....
Wed Aug 29, 2018, 03:07 PM
Aug 2018

And these bastards talk about "the hate on the left", as though it even compares to these deplorables on the reich. It pisses me off everytime these lying, cheating sob's twist truth and turn reality back on you. "The hate on the left"....?? Watch a dRumpf rally, then tell me all about it.

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