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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre Democrats Courting Chaos In 2020 By Limiting The Power Of Superdelegates?
A FiveThirtyEight Chatperry: If Sanders or another candidate who is anti-superdelegates does not win a majority of pledged delegates during the primary, he should be worried. I wonder if the supers, on the second ballot, are even more unbound under this new system, compared to the old one. They could say, You [Sanders supporters] said you wanted a system in which a majority of pledged delegates means you win. You didnt get a majority. We get to intervene now. These are your rules. We are following them and we will now choose who WE want.
natesilver: Yeah. My thing is that you want a system where someone can win on the first ballot with less than a majority, but with a reasonably clear plurality. Because its very common for the top candidate to have something like 35 percent to 45 percent of the overall votes in the primary.
There are two ways to achieve that: either through superdelegates or through winner-take-all/winner-take-most rules.
The Democrats have neither one of those now.
There are two ways to achieve that: either through superdelegates or through winner-take-all/winner-take-most rules.
The Democrats have neither one of those now.
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Are Democrats Courting Chaos In 2020 By Limiting The Power Of Superdelegates? (Original Post)
LiberalFighter
Aug 2018
OP
It's done, superdelegates never decided anything anyway, let's move on. If we want to rage about
Squinch
Aug 2018
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Squinch
(50,955 posts)1. It's done, superdelegates never decided anything anyway, let's move on. If we want to rage about
something, it should be to outlaw caucuses and require tax returns.
Obama supporters complained about superdelegates supporting Clinton in 2008 just like Sanders supporters did in 2016. Neither really played a role since the issue was decided through "regular" delegates
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)2. It was a mistake to eliminate them.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)3. Well, they were the response to a couple of terrible losses to Republicans that could have
been avoided, so I thought they were a good idea. But here we are.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)6. I think they'll eventually return.
After a massive and avoidable "told you fucking so" event... but, we'll just have to wait and see and hope for the best.
Yep, "here we are". Let's try to make the best of it.
irresistable
(989 posts)4. Everything will be just fine.
The field will thin out quickly enough for someone to have a majority.
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)7. You can't win with these M$M fucks
Narrative: Dems must get rid of super delegates they are unfair!1!1
Dems get rid of super delegates.
Narrative: But will it cause chaos!?11?1
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)8. This could be a big mess