Progressive Upset Means A Sanders Vs. Trump Battle For Florida Governor

[oberliner]

Donald Trump vs. Bernie Sanders proxy battle

Both of the Florida primary wins show that the momentum in each party lies in the far right and the far left. DeSantis had been seen as a slight favorite, but no one had predicted such a blowout win over Putnam, who started the race as the clear frontrunner.

Gillum hadn't led in a single poll and was heavily outspent by several of his rivals, but was able to harness the progressive energy to beat Graham, a famed political scion in the state whose father had served as governor and senator. Sen. Bernie Sanders campaigned for Gillum and drew more than 1,000 people to a rally in Tampa earlier this month. Gillum campaigned on repealing the state's controversial Stand Your Ground law, Medicare for all and raising the minimum wage.

In a statement, Sanders said Gillum had "laid out a vision for a new course for the state of Florida and our country." Billionaire donor Tom Steyer also endorsed Gillum and spent on his behalf, and on Tuesday called his win "further proof that when Democrats put forward candidates that tell the truth and embrace a bold vision for the future, they win."

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/28/642798502/ron-desantis-rides-trump-coattails-to-victory-in-florida-primary-for-governor

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

1. Gillum is great if thats who won the primary. Go Blue.

[honest.abe]

2. I dont think that is the battle.

Bernie had minimal impact on this primary and will have minimal impact on the Nov race.. imo.

[oberliner]

4. Medicare for All, $15 Minimum Wage, Higher Corporate Tax rates

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He ran on a platform that was very similar to Bernie's.

[honest.abe]

6. Those ideas were around long before Bernie.

[oberliner]

8. Of course they were

But not every Democratic candidate running for office ran on them like Bernie and Andrew did.

[honest.abe]

21. Those voting for Gillum will not be because he is assoicated with Bernie.

This election will not be about Bernie.

[NurseJackie]

32. Actually, I thought you were going to say something else...

... which I won't elaborate on (for obvious reasons).

[George II]

40. Are you saying that EVERY voter who voted for Gillum agrees with EVERY one of Gillum's positions?

That's not how it works. Informed voters assess the positions of each of the candidates and votes for the one they agree with the most, even if that candidate has positions they don't agree with.

I voted for Barack Obama three times even though his position on some issues I didn't agree with. I voted for Hillary Clinton twice even though her position on issues I didn't agree with.

[SkyDancer]

13. Sure but name 1 person who ran on all that?

Now add in cannabis legalization.

[samnsara]

7. yes but ALL dems want this..not just bernie ppl..

[oberliner]

9. That's not true

Did you watch the Florida Democratic primary debate? There were definitely a few areas of disagreement among the candidates.

I think it is fair to say that all the Democratic candidates are in the same general ballpark, but some are more to the left than others.

[uponit7771]

23. Of course there were a "few areas"

[George II]

37. That was BEFORE the primary. Good Democrats embrace the policies of their standard bearer....

....in General Elections.

Gwen Graham has already wholeheartedly thrown her support behind Gillum, and urged her supporters and all Democrats to do so as well.

No need for Democrats to go down a laundry list of issues that a GE candidate supports to understand that they support them.

[SkyDancer]

14. No that isn't true at all

I wish it was but one example is the divide for legalization of cannabis

[Go Vols]

44. +1

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

3. Gillum is going to have to battle this Narrative

Sanders endorsed Gillum, but the media is practicing erasure when they pit Gillum as a "Sanders" guy. Gillum's base, Black educated women, are the ones who voted overwhelmingly for Obama and Clinton.

Gillum's policies align with Sanders, but what is not being reported is that Gillum's policies align even closer with Florida Democrats.

[oberliner]

5. Gillum ran on a platform that was very similar to Bernie's

And those policies align well with Florida, as you mention.

[George II]

25. And also the Democratic Party's platform.

[ehrnst]

30. Bernie didn't endorse him until August 1.

Gillum announced his candidacy in March 1. The vast majority of Gillum's endorsements came before July. Senator Sanders appears to be among the last to endorse his campaign.

Do you think Sanders might have waited because he had reservations because Gillum had campaigned for Hillary, and was a delegate for her?

Because he spoke at the 2016 DNC? Do you think he might have been waiting until after other groups and individuals endorsed Gilllum, or after he looked more likely to win?

Endorsements in March:

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/03/statement-gillum-announces-new-round-endorsements/

Endorsements in April:

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/04/statement-350-action-bill-mckibben-endorse-gillum-keystone-xl-opposition-clean-energy-achievements/

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/04/statement-gillum-receives-moms-demand-action-candidate-distinction/

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/04/statement-progressive-champion-carlos-guillermo-smith-endorses-gillum/

Endorsements in May:

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/05/team-gillum-closes-may-momentum-big-endorsements/

Endorsements in June:

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/06/1019/

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/06/statement-progressive-champion-rep-ro-khanna-endorses-gillum/

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/06/statement-gillum-honored-accept-tom-steyers-endorsement/

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/06/statement-gillum-lands-national-nurses-union-endorsement/

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/06/statement-papa-keith-famous-miami-radio-host-endorses-gillum/

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/06/statement-florida-local-elected-officials-endorse-gillum-governor/

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/06/statement-gillum-earns-endorsement-new-florida-majority/

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/06/statement-palm-beach-supporters-stand-gillum-greenes-entrance/

Endorsements in July:

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/07/statement-palm-beach-county-human-rights-council-voters-alliance-endorses-gillum/

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/07/indivisible-project-endorses-andrew-gillum-for-governor-of-florida/

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/07/statement-virginia-lt-governor-justin-fairfax-endorses-gillum/

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/07/flic-votes-endorses-mayor-andrew-gillum-florida-governor/

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/07/statement-orange-osceola-county-state-attorney-aramis-ayala-endorses-gillum/

https://andrewgillum.com/2018/07/statement-les-gwen-miller-endorse-gillum/

[NurseJackie]

31. If the bandwagon can hold all that weight... I guess it's safe to hop on... no matter how late!

[yardwork]

42. Running to get to the front of another parade?

[vdogg]

10. I really wish people would stop trying to give Bernie credit for Gillum's Win.

He did nothing here, Gillum did the grunt work. Gillum’s base is the same as the Obama/Hillary base, people who are not inclined to vote for Bernie.

[oberliner]

11. That's not what this article is doing at all

It is pointing out that the Gillum platform was similar to the Sanders platform - which it unquestionably was.

[FloridaBlues]

12. Wonder who he will put as his Lt Gov? Graham perhaps ?

[NCTraveler]

19. Sanders doesn't own these issues.

He doesn’t own Gillum. Your wording here speaks volumes. Transparent.

I’m going to ask you to do something you probably won’t be willing to do. Send money to Gillum, not his opponent.

[uponit7771]

24. +1, I think that's what grates me the most people acting as if these concepts are new

[Go Vols]

45. yes it is

[Skidmore]

15. No.

It means Gillum, a black candidate in the deep South, worked hard in his own right to win his race. He has received support and endorsement from a number of leaders. Heard him this morning on Morning Joe and liked his message that his race was about the needs of Floridians in the here and now. Black voters turned out in large numbers to support him. He is a solid Democrat, running as one. The last thing the people of this nation need is a perpetual cage death match between two aged white guys. Time for a more diverse field that looks like America.

[FSogol]

16. +1 Exactly. n/t

[NurseJackie]

18. I think it's a mistake for anyone to try and TAKE CREDIT for Gillum's personal achievements.

[sheshe2]

29. +++

[yardwork]

43. That's my take as well.

[NCTraveler]

17. Your act is clear. Nt

[mcar]

20. What a ridiculous media-concocted narrative

Gillum is a good Democrat who happened to get Sanders support late in the campaign.

I supported Gillum from the first and followed his campaign closely. He was all over the state, a true grass roots effort. For his victory to now be only about Sanders is galling, and not helpful.

We should be correcting this narrative instead of pushing it.

[retread]

22. There's a slight problem with your divisive narrative.

http://news.wfsu.org/post/tallahassee-mayor-gillum-endorses-stumps-hilary-clinton

[SidDithers]

26. No, it doesn't...

It means a Democrat vs Trump battle.

But keep trying.

Sid

[George II]

27. I wonder what the narrative will be once President Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton....

....endorse Gillum?

[still_one]

28. It means a progressive Democratic challenge verses the trump agenda. While some relish in trying to

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divide the Democrats ahead with the midterms by focusing on the different ideologies within the Democratic party to sow division with that strategy which had traction in 2000 and 2016, it won’t work this time

We will NOT be divided by their deception, it isnt going to work this time much to the dismay of the media and other elements whose motives are only to either create discord among Democrats thinking it will attract viewers, or split Democrats to give republicans a leg up in the midterms

This game has been played too many times on us and it isn’t going to happen again. Sorry to disappoint those who wish otherwise

Democrats from the left middle and right of the party are coming together to support the Democratic candidate in the midterms

We are not going to fall for this deceptive n again

[Me.]

35. I'm Confused

is BS running for Florida Governor too?

[malaise]

33. Not so fast

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211066564

[sheshe2]

36. This!

[LanternWaste]

34. I s'pose that's one of many interpretations.

Those who enjoy comparing often forget the corollary-- contrast, the counter-balance to better achieve accurate context rather than a consistent predisposition to a conclusion already made (of which, fairness is then irrelevant).

[bigtree]

38. great pushback on this, Duers

...keep it up!

[ismnotwasm]

39. No.

[peggysue2]

41. Here's a thought

Instead of fighting over who is responsible for Gillum's success last night--beyond the man's own record and effort--why don't we harness our efforts to give Gillum the best chance at a win in November??

Because that's far more important than this ongoing squabble. Unless I'm mistaken, Bernie Sanders is not running for Governor of Florida and Gillum's campaign rhetoric has not been copyrighted by Senator Sanders. Interesting, too, that Gillum supported Hillary Clinton in 2016.

He's a Man for All Seasons.

If we want to win, it's a shoulder-to-shoulder effort.

So stop with the divisive articles meant only to score points within certain factions. Which is a pointless exercise for the midterms.

Gillum is our candidate. He's a solid Democrat. He deserves our support. Period, full stop!