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So if the Dems win the house and senate in November (Original Post) brettdale Aug 2018 OP
I think you're getting ahead of the game. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2018 #1
Non-stop yelling about voter fraud EarlG Aug 2018 #2
Only we need to do is win the House to have the investigations start, and to block bad legislation still_one Aug 2018 #3
Trump vetos everything madville Aug 2018 #4
... madamesilverspurs Aug 2018 #5
The odds are very slim on retaking the Senate... regnaD kciN Aug 2018 #6
Unfortunately, tweet storms Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #7
Unless there's 67 votes in the senate to remove him Red Don wil handle it by running again in 2020 uponit7771 Aug 2018 #8

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,641 posts)
1. I think you're getting ahead of the game.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 10:33 PM
Aug 2018

We will probably take back the House.

Taking back the Senate? Much harder and much less likely.

We need to concentrate our efforts on what we can do, and not try to guess the future.

EarlG

(21,951 posts)
2. Non-stop yelling about voter fraud
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 10:33 PM
Aug 2018

and how the Russians must have intervened on behalf of the Democrats.

Expect Trump to suggest something along the lines of “Second Amendment Solutions”.

*edited to add I agree with Peggy that taking the Senate is a long shot.

still_one

(92,240 posts)
3. Only we need to do is win the House to have the investigations start, and to block bad legislation
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 10:41 PM
Aug 2018

that requires both houses of Congress


madville

(7,412 posts)
4. Trump vetos everything
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 10:50 PM
Aug 2018

Government shuts down. House impeaches, Senate doesn't convict. Democrats year each other apart in the 2020 primary as Trump taunts all of them on Twitter. After he loses November 2020 he pardons everyone for everything fathomable under the sun. He resigns before the inauguration and Pence pardons him for everything.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
6. The odds are very slim on retaking the Senate...
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 11:08 PM
Aug 2018

...although it would be an ideal outcome.

In any rate, Trump is unlikely to do much about it. And gridlock will be the rule of the day.

If we take the House alone: We can stymie any further moves by Trump that require legislative approval, but not, unfortunately, SCOTUS appointments. We have two years of hoping and praying that there are no more vacancies, especially RBG. Plus, we can commence all sorts of investigations into the administration’s misbehavior.

If we take the House and Senate: Total gridlock, including all judicial appointments. If 45 wants to appoint another SCOTUS justice, we make like Mitchie the Turtle until we retake the White House.

What about impeachment? We can certainly try, but to convict in the Senate requires 67 votes, meaning that, even in the best case, we’re going to need a LOT of Republicans to join in. And that’s highly unlikely, unless they get REALLY spooked about Trump dragging their party down so far that their own seats are put at risk. So, the more likely route than a fast march to impeachment would be a drawn-out series of investigations to air every bit of Republican dirty laundry, particularly on national television, in preparation for 2020. Maybe enough Republicans will defect to make impeachment a possibility, or maybe we’ll see Watergate Redux with congresscritters throwing Trump to the wolves and forcing him to resign. Either way, nothing will get done until 2020, when we can hopefully bring this error to a close.

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