Please STOP with all the Gloom and Doom about Lanny Davis

[maxrandb]

He did NOT do "serious damage" to the Donnie Shit for Brains investigation. I mean, why don't we just take a right-wing nutbag talking point about Lanny Davis "damaging the Mueller Investigation" and GIVE IT JUST AS MUCH EXPOSURE ON DU AS IT HAS ON FREAKER-REPUBLIKKK AND BREITBART

I will bet a thousand that this is what happened.

I have no doubt that Cohen told Lanny Davis that Trump knew in advance...and I have no doubt that Donnie Short Fingers actually did know in advance and approve the fucking meeting.

Lanny Davis heard that from Michael Cohen and got out in front of his skis.

It was probably pointed out that what he was saying Cohen told him DID NOT MATCH WHAT COHEN TOLD THE CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE during testimony. In a situation like that, you'd have no choice but to "walk back what you said".

Remember, when Cohen appeared before the Retrumplican controlled committee, he had not been charged with anything and was NOT a cooperating witness.

Davis had to walk this back so that he didn't expose Cohen to a charge of lying to Congress.

BTW - I don't know much, but I do know this Mueller is NOT basing his case on whatever the fuck Lanny Davis said or didn't say"

Take a breath. This is not relevant.

The stories on Right-Wing media are hyperventilating about how "Davis has killed the Mueller investigation". If you actually believe that, then I've got a bridge to sell.

IS THERE ANYONE IN AMERICA THAT ACTUALLY BELIEVES THE ORANGE TURD DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS MEETING?

Hell no. To the "White Supremacist Right" it doesn't matter if be knew. Trump could be filmed T-Bagging Vladimir Putin while McConnell and Ryan gave him a "reach-around" and the Deplorables would still support this fucktwit.

This is a NON Story

[SHRED]

1. +1000

[Trust Buster]

2. Yes he did do serious damage. He claimed that Cohen had knowledge of two things in particular;

1) Davis claimed that Cohen had knowledge that Don the Con knew that the Russians were going to cyberattack this country before they did it.

2) Davis claimed that Cohen had knowledge that Don the Con knew of the the Trump Tower meeting before it happened.

HE HAD TO RETRACT BOTH STATEMENTS !!!!

CNN and Carl Bernstein were left holding the bag after Davis’ retractions. This played right into the right wing narrative. Specifically, that Lanny Davis, a long time Clinton lawyer, lied about Cohen’s knowledge to hurt Don the Con and that CNN and Carl Bernstein reported this “fake news”.

Davis needs to step down as Cohen’s attorney IMO. He has tainted himself with his unprofessional behavior.

[zentrum]

6. Agreed.

[DownriverDem]

11. Step down?

That's Cohen's call.

[Trust Buster]

15. Actually, after Davis' bad gaffes, he has an ethical duty to step aside for his client's best

Interests.

[Honeycombe8]

19. I don't think it's proper to take what an atty says as truth. Not until you see or learn about...

evidence from or by the witness himself. The attorney is reporting hearsay, and he could get it wrong.

So if CNN and Bernstein ran with it, that's on them. It's possible all they did was report what Davis said, which is totally accurate and proper and within journalistic rules.

Cohen doesn't exactly have his pick of lawyers, since he can't pay. Davis is better than many others out there.

This is the risk that attorneys take when they show up on talk shows & speak off the cuff. Avenatti is speaking too much, too, IMO. And we've all seen the gaffes by "truth is not truth" Ghouliani.

The evidence will be what it will be. What the attorney says on a talk show isn't evidence and has no bearing on anything.

As for contradiction in Cohen's prior testimony, it's a given that he would (and probably did) lie, before he was charged with anything. Remember that this is a lyin' group of crooks who have gotten away with high crimes for many years. Until recently, they thought they were invincible. I'm sure Manafort has lied up one side and down the other, too.

Whenever Davis says something, though, he had better be sure. As in...it's testimony by Cohen under oath (something Davis can hang his ethical hat on), or he has seen a verified document.

I think these guys STILL don't understand the kind of people they're dealing with. They are LIARS...all of 'em. What they say on any given day can't be relied on as truth. Trump, Cohen, Manafort, Ghouliani, Sessions, Kushner, Trump Jr., Eric, Ivanka, all cabinet members, Devin Nunes, etc. Even Stormy Daniels has lied before about her Trump involvement, so Avenatti had better verify anything she says.

[Trust Buster]

20. Sorry,the stakes are too high for Davis to claim that Cohen had knowledge that Trump knew

The Russians were going to cyberattack this country before it happened and that Cohen had knowledge that Trump knew about the meetings in Trump Tower before they happened just to walk them back. Those are two explosive statements with national consequences for an attorney to “get wrong”.

[Honeycombe8]

23. Cohen may have told him that. What I'm saying is...

Davis, Ghouliani, Congress people, are not coming to grips with these liars & crooks...that they LIE. Everything they say must be verified, or said under oath so that at least the atty has something to hang his ethical hat on.

Davis is no different than the Senators & reps doing hearings and not being careful to ask specific questions to root out possible unethical behavior, and no different than the other attorneys (Trump's, specifically, who should have known better than to believe him about anything).

This is not that big a deal for the Cohen case or Mueller. It damages Davis, though. That he's so gullible or not careful to verify. IF what he said is not true. Which it may be. No one knows for sure, yet.

[radical noodle]

21. Oh good grief

Better to call for Guiliani to step aside. Talk about lies and gaffes.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. Lamy Davis is a terrible lawyer... totally unprofessional and an embarrassment.

[CatMor]

3. K&R

[B2G]

4. If it didn't help, it hurt.

No need to pretend otherwise. He gave Trump ammunition for his fake news claims, among other things

If Davis had a brain in his head, he would have leaked this to Fox News, not CNN.

[LanternWaste]

18. 'Benign' is a subtle context too often lost in the clutter of lazy minds.

If Davis had a brain, he'd simply lecture us about his 'concern' over the Egyptian pyramids and how they "make us look bad."

[Bernardo de La Paz]

5. You nailed it. All Davis did was clarify his lawyerly language in a lawyerly cautious way.

It's the MEDIA who took his original statement, stripped the nuances off it, and ran with it like a crazed bunny on sugar.

For profit.

The media are for profit and journalists squeeze out as much proper reporting as they can. The commentators and pundits are much more aligned with the profit motive.

Never forget, media companies are for profit.

[FakeNoose]

7. Yes! Mueller still needs to make his case against Cheeto

Lanny Davis doesn't have to make it for him. That's just the way things work.

[B2G]

8. It was CNN

which doesn't help their credibility one bit and gives Trump more ammunition. They are his favorite whipping boys.

And they have yet to clarify/retract.

[iluvtennis]

14. +++ agree nt

[tonyt53]

9. I bet you will be rebuffed by 100 times more than me, as I agree with you.

If Cohen lies to Congress, the GOP will drag him in again and charge him with lying. It would be their way of protecting trump by saying that Cohen is a liar, and the proof is that he lied to Congress. Davis is far too smart to allow Cohen to fall into that trap. Smart Republicans (the few of which there are) understand completely why Davis did this.

[JI7]

10. it's mostly concern trolling by right wing trolls

[Claritie Pixie]

12. Thank you for being a voice of reason.

Too many are freaking out about this.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

13. I think it's a lot of hair on fire hysteria....

....like people who thought that Manafort wouldn't be convicted because Judge Ellis had it in for the prosecution, or people who thought Mueller would close his investigation without indicting anyone.

It's natural to be concerned that way, but I don't think there's call for it.

[pennylane100]

16. When I read about the retraction Cohen made,

I did not for one moment think to blame his lawyer. I think we now know enough about Cohen to know that he is stupid as well as crooked.

[BobTheSubgenius]

17. "A straw."

"Ready...Set...CLUTCH!"

[barbtries]

22. i think he was there

either in person or by teleconference. i also believe that they got what they showed up for that day.

[Qutzupalotl]

24. I'm trying to picture Mueller going, "Welp, Lanny Davis misspoke...

...time to pack it in,” but I’m just not seeing it.

Mueller is not spending 14+ months on this just to throw it out on a technicality. He knows the country itself could be at stake. And he has tons of hard evidence to work with.

[garybeck]

25. the reason he walked back what he said

Cohen is cooperating with Mueller. there is a plea deal that is under seal.

Davis just jumped the gun and should not have said that publicly. What he said is true.

Mueller told him to stop blabbing or the deal is off.

Davis is on the same page with Mueller now. you won't see him blabbing about anything because Mueller wants to keep the investigation behind closed doors.

[mr_lebowski]

27. Now THIS ... is EXACTLY what I thought when I read the walkback ...

The 'Lying to Congress' angle may be part of it, possibly, but the main reason, I believe, is that Mueller came down on him like a ton of bricks. NONE OF THIS kind of shit is supposed to 'come out' until Mueller's report (and indictments, we hope) comes out.