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herding cats

(19,565 posts)
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 03:22 PM Aug 2018

Vanity Fair: "Trump Is Nuts. This Time Really Feels Different."

“Trump Is Nuts. This Time Really Feels Different”: Trump Rejects “War Council” Intervention, Goes It Alone

With his closest allies defecting, the president increasingly trusts only his instincts. He “got joy” from stripping former C.I.A. director John Brennan’s security clearance. And after betrayals by Allen Weisselberg and David Pecker, a former White House official says, Trump “spent the weekend calling people and screaming.”

After Michael Cohen’s plea deal last week, Donald Trump spiraled out of control, firing wildly in all directions. He railed against “flippers” in a rambling Fox & Friends interview, and lashed out on Twitter at Attorney General Jeff Sessions, the Justice Department, and Robert Mueller. In the wake of his outbursts, White House officials have discussed whether Trump would listen to his closest New York City friends in an effort to rein him in. Two sources briefed on the matter told me that senior officials talked about inviting Rudy Giuliani and a group of Trump’s New York real-estate friends including Tom Barrack, Richard LeFrak, and Howard Lorber to the White House to stage an “intervention” last week. “It was supposed to be a war council,” one source explained. But Trump refused to take the meeting, sources said. “You know Trump—he hates being lectured to,” the source added. (Spokespeople for LeFrak and Lorber say they have no knowledge of a meeting. A spokesperson for Barrack didn’t comment.)

More than ever, Trump is acting by feeling and instinct. “Trump is nuts,” said one former West Wing official. “This time really feels different.” Deputy Chief of Staff Bill Shine has privately expressed concern, a source said, telling a friend that Trump’s emotional state is “very tender.” Even Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump are unsettled that Trump is so gleefully acting on his most self-destructive impulses as his legal peril grows. According to a source, Jared and Ivanka told Trump that stripping security clearances from former intelligence officials would backfire, but Trump ignored them. Kushner later told a friend Trump “got joy” out of taking away John Brennan’s clearance. His reaction to the death of John McCain—quashing a White House statement in praise of the senator, and restoring White House flags to full staff—falls into the same self-indulgent category.

The news of Cohen’s plea and Paul Manafort’s conviction, which were followed by revelations that Trump Organization C.F.O. Allen Weisselberg and National Enquirer publisher David Pecker are cooperating with federal prosecutors, have rattled Trump like few other turns in the investigation have, sources said. Flying on Air Force One to his West Virginia rally last week, Trump seemed “bummed” and “down and out,” a person briefed on his mood told me. “He was acting like, ‘I know the news is bad, but I don’t know what to do about it,’” the source said. At the rally, an uncharacteristically subdued Trump barely mentioned Cohen or Manafort.

By the weekend, though, his anger had returned. “He spent the weekend calling people and screaming,” one former White House official said. According to sources, the president feels cornered with no clear way out. His months-long campaign to get Sessions to resign—so that Trump could appoint a new A.G. who would shut down the Russia probe—not only failed to get Sessions to step down, but it’s caused him to dig in, as evidenced by Sessions’s rare statement asserting the independence of the Justice Department. “Trump knows at least through the midterms he won’t get another A.G.,” a former White House official said.

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Vanity Fair: "Trump Is Nuts. This Time Really Feels Different." (Original Post) herding cats Aug 2018 OP
Oh, the poor snowflake. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #1
He's having a full meltdown if these reports are true. herding cats Aug 2018 #2
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2018 #3
Wait until Jr is indicted...His inner circle better get some BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #4
Things are going to get extremely interesting then. herding cats Aug 2018 #5
I'm guessing that will be the next to last step. Fozzledick Aug 2018 #6
Maybe they need to call the medics to put a straitjacket on him for the next tirade. Lonestarblue Aug 2018 #9
Yeah, and his lower dentures would come loose again. BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #10
He's moving into Col. Jessup territory. Glamrock Aug 2018 #7
Or Capt Queeg Poiuyt Aug 2018 #18
Richard Nixon near the end used to talk to the portraits of dead presidents EricMaundry Aug 2018 #8
Honestly do not understood the point of articles like this oberliner Aug 2018 #11
Thanks for kicking the thread! herding cats Aug 2018 #12
Happy to do so! oberliner Aug 2018 #13
Huh. herding cats Aug 2018 #14
They've definitely done some good reporting oberliner Aug 2018 #15
Odd, that's not even close to what you said in your reply to me. herding cats Aug 2018 #16
That was definitely badly stated on my part oberliner Aug 2018 #17
Non sequitur moment here, I just had the weirdest memory. herding cats Aug 2018 #19
Oh my! And now the dog ... KelleyKramer Aug 2018 #20

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
2. He's having a full meltdown if these reports are true.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 03:35 PM
Aug 2018

The best part is the hell his advisors are going through.

Inside the West Wing, a sense of numbness and dread has set in among senior advisers as they gird for what Trump will do next. “It’s a return to the abyss,” said one former official who’s in frequent contact with the White House. “This is back to being a one-man show, and everyone is on the outside looking in.”


BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
4. Wait until Jr is indicted...His inner circle better get some
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 03:44 PM
Aug 2018

tranquilizers ready and then run for the hills. It won't be pretty.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
5. Things are going to get extremely interesting then.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:13 PM
Aug 2018

The worst tantrums so far won't hold a candle to when that happens!

Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
6. I'm guessing that will be the next to last step.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:19 PM
Aug 2018

Just before Mueller issues either a grand jury criminal indictment or an official report of impeachable high crimes against the republic and misdemeanors of authority.

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
9. Maybe they need to call the medics to put a straitjacket on him for the next tirade.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 06:17 PM
Aug 2018

I’d love to see him foaming at the mouth after being restrained!

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
7. He's moving into Col. Jessup territory.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:14 PM
Aug 2018

Any day now he'll admit to ordering the "code red"....pun intended.

 

EricMaundry

(1,619 posts)
8. Richard Nixon near the end used to talk to the portraits of dead presidents
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 05:34 PM
Aug 2018

Maybe Trump should try that.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. Honestly do not understood the point of articles like this
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 06:52 PM
Aug 2018

"Things are crazy in Trump world. He's yelling at people on the phone"

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
13. Happy to do so!
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 08:04 PM
Aug 2018

I do recognize that people are entertained by stories of the chaos and the madness inside the Trump WH - I just am not sure why the Vanity Fair articles need to be written, since they all basically seem to say the same things that we already know.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. They've definitely done some good reporting
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 09:35 PM
Aug 2018

That's why I give them the business for articles like this.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
16. Odd, that's not even close to what you said in your reply to me.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 10:19 PM
Aug 2018
I do recognize that people are entertained by stories of the chaos and the madness inside the Trump WH - I just am not sure why the Vanity Fair articles need to be written, since they all basically seem to say the same things that we already know.


How odd, don't you think? I know I do.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. That was definitely badly stated on my part
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 10:47 PM
Aug 2018

By "the Vanity Fair articles" I meant articles like this Vanity Fair one - the "Chaos in the Trump WH" type pieces that all seem to say the same things we already know. Such article are written by a variety of different publications. I didn't mean to write that Vanity Fair only does that kind of article - they obviously don't - I just meant that there seem to be a lot of them (in different places) and I don't see the point. Obviously you disagree, and that's fine, I am happy to keep kicking your article for others who like these sorts of pieces!

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
19. Non sequitur moment here, I just had the weirdest memory.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 11:19 PM
Aug 2018

When I was in high school we had a kid who used to toss M80's into bathrooms. For some freakish reason he got his kicks being an antagonist to everyone else. It's how he got his joy in life. I can't explain it, because it never made any sense to me but it was his thing. I haven't thought of him in decades.

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