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lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
2. That's intriguing!
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 02:56 PM
Aug 2018

It's an indication that Mueller is spawning spinoff investigations literally all over the country. One also has to wonder how many state AGs are already spinning up investigations based on Mueller tipoffs.

triron

(22,007 posts)
3. I copied the article because I couldn't get it with the link:
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 03:01 PM
Aug 2018

"On August 24, 2018, the United States Department of Justice announced a federal indictment had been unsealed. Three men were charged with a $511,000,000 tax credit fraud scheme involving biofuels. Jacob Kingston, Isaiah Kingston, and Lev Aslan Dermen (aka Levon Termendzhyan) were charged in the District of Utah. The indictment was filed August 1, 2018, and ordered sealed.

“[The men]allegedly schemed to file false claims for renewable fuel tax credits, which caused the IRS to issue over $511 million to WRE…From 2010 through 2016, as part of their fraud to obtain the fuel tax credits, the defendants allegedly created false production records and other paperwork routinely created in qualifying renewable fuel transactions along with other false documents. To make it falsely appear that qualifying fuel transactions were occurring, the defendants rotated products through places in the United States and through at least one foreign country.”

Note: the indictment mentions Panama. In addition to the tax credit scam, the

“indictment further charges that the defendants laundered part of the scheme proceeds through a series of financial transactions related to the purchase of a $3 million personal residence for Jacob Kingston. Jacob and Isaiah Kingston are separately alleged to have laundered approximately $1.72 million in scheme proceeds to purchase a 2010 Bugatti Veyron. Jacob Kingston and Lev Aslan

source: PACER.gov

Jacob Kingston is the CEO of Washakie Renewable Energy, and Isaiah Kingston is the CFO. The Kingstons are sons of John Daniel Kingston, the partiarch of the Kingston Group, “a Utah-based polygamous church with fundamentalist Mormon beliefs.” Journalist Jesse Hyde wrote about the group in his brilliant article “Inside ‘The Order,’ One Mormon Cult’s Secret Empire,” published June 15, 2011, in Rolling Stone. The Southern Poverty Law Center declared the Kingston Group a hate group in their August 8, 2017 expose, “Blood Cult.” The Salt Lake Tribune’s Nate Carlisle reported August 4, 2018, “Girls in polygamous Kingston Group continue to marry as young as 15, records show, sometimes leaving Utah to marry cousins.” All three articles are essential reading to get a sense of who the Kingston group really is-and the scope of their crimes and abuses.

According to the federal indictment dated August 1, 2018 (available on PACER), Lev Aslan Dermen aka Levon Termendzhyan, is a California resident who controls

“several fuel-related companies in the United States, including Noil Energy Group, a corporation with offices in California. SBK Holdings, Inc., later SBK Holdings USA, Inc., was a corporation formed in California in December 2013 initially owned by Defendants Jacob Ortell Kingston and Lev Aslan Dermen, a/k/a Levon Termendzhyan.”

On September 29, 2017, Isaac Arnsdorf of ProPublica published a brilliant piece of journalism, “Robert Mueller Subpoenas an Associate of the Man Who Hired Michael Flynn as a Lobbyist,” about Sezgin Baran Korkmaz, who is a “close ally of Ekim Alptekin, the 40-year-old Turkish businessman who hired Flynn to lobby for Turkish interests shortly before the election.” In the article, Arnsdorf writes Termendzhyn’s SBK Holdings USA is “the U.S. sister company” of Sezgin Baran Korkmaz’s Turkish company, SBK Holding. SBK Holding

“has “major investments” in the Russian energy sector, a September 2016 announcementby a Turkish government agency said. The company’s website shows operations in Russia but doesn’t specify what they are.”

On October 5, 2017, The Real Deal reported former SBK Holdings USA’s President and Legal Counsel, Edgar Sargosyan had stated in a legal declaration that Termendzhyan was “under investigation by the Department of Homeland Security for money laundering, tax evasion and stolen petroleum.” I found several other companies connected to Termendzhyan (see charts below), and he and his family members appear in the Offshore Leaks Database.
source: www.corporationwiki.com

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
4. Thanks! It actually looks like a pretty long chain before you might get near Trump.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 03:06 PM
Aug 2018

But I'm always happy to see RW cultists get their due.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
7. I think it falls under the "Birds of a feather flock together" rubric.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 03:31 PM
Aug 2018

Laundering Russian mob money is a specialized grift.

 

SkyDancer

(561 posts)
9. I have never understood WHY polygamy is illegal
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 03:50 PM
Aug 2018

Call me strange if you wish but WHY is it illegal?

What consenting adults do in their relationships with other consenting adults, isn't my business and has absolutely no impact on me personally at all. If they're happy, let them be happy.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
10. Not legally recognized
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 04:19 PM
Aug 2018

It is a matter of whether it is legally recognized. It is illegal to try to obtain benefits for more than one person as a "spouse". That'd be like social security, government pension, health insurance or other government benefits. You're allowed to "register" (marriage license) one person at a time with no overlap.

In reality, society perceives that it has an interest in people forming these social arrangements and therefor has an interest in supporting and encouraging them.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
11. Yeah, but as long as you're only claiming benefits for the first one,
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 11:11 PM
Aug 2018

Do any of us really give a damn how many 'spouses' a person has?
I don't.

But that part about CONSENTING ADULTS is important...'girls as young as fifteen' for damn sure doesn't fit that definition, and I want THOSE sick fuckers prosecuted.

bdjhawk

(420 posts)
15. I can't believe people don't care about polygamy and
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 12:32 AM
Aug 2018

that underage girls starts as the "brides" in most of these cases. They grow into brainwashed adults who don't leave because they are forced to believe in their man's Godly superiority and are economically reliant as they have no education and skills. They are abused and treated like ignorant sex vessels and breeding stock. So, say they are "consenting adults" all you want but these women would put their lives and their children's lives in danger if they tried to leave.

Whether it is the orange pig in the White House, "religious" weirdos like Pence who demand women's submission or these polygamists, misogyny is growing in our society and acting like it is a woman's choice just helps this cancer grow.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
16. And you can do that
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 12:29 PM
Aug 2018

the government isn't arresting those folks. It's when these people start trying to access government benefits, or commercial benefits restricted to legal spouses that the trouble starts.

Well, except as you suggest when it involves minors.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
14. Interesting....the Kingston Klan...I mean Clan.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 12:28 AM
Aug 2018

They are one of the more wealthy polygamous groups. Unlike FLDS, which are easy to spot, these fruit loops own several businesses, assets, have their own bank, etc. And much of their labor is...well, dare I say, slave labor. The leadership and those well connected to them essentially get first "dibs" on the "wives" they want. If there is a handsome young male, who is not connected...they push him out of the group....in a bad way.

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