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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 12:54 PM Aug 2018

John McCain's former Vietnamese jailer gives him the heartfelt tribute that Trump has refused to...

BRAD REED
27 AUG 2018 AT 10:03 ET

John McCain’s former Vietnamese jailer gives him the heartfelt tribute that Trump has refused to offer

President Donald Trump over the weekend reportedly blocked his own White House from issuing an official statement praising the life of the late Sen. John McCain.

Even as the president refused to directly praise the late senator, however, tributes to McCain from around the world continued pouring in — including from one of the men who held him captive while he was a prisoner of war in Vietnam.

Via the Daily Beast, Vietnam News spoke with Colonel Trần Trọng Duyệt, the man who ran the Hỏa Lò Prison where McCain was held.

In addition to praising McCain for his bravery and toughness as a soldier, Duyệt also gave credit to McCain for working to normalize relations between the United States and Vietnam after America’s eventual defeat in the war.

“At that time I liked him personally for his toughness and strong stance,” he said. “Later on, when he became a US Senator, he and Senator John Kerry greatly contributed to promote Vietnam-U.S. relations so I was very fond of him. When I learnt about his death early this morning, I feel very sad. I would like to send condolences to his family. I think it’s the same feeling for all Vietnamese people as he has greatly contributed to the development of Vietnam-U.S. relations.”

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https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/john-mccains-former-vietcong-jailer-gives-heartfelt-tribute-trump-refused-offer/

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John McCain's former Vietnamese jailer gives him the heartfelt tribute that Trump has refused to... (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2018 OP
Tran has seen Confiict Raphe M Aug 2018 #1
Unindicted CoConspirator is a moron... Cary Aug 2018 #9
A famous poem comes to mind Roy Rolling Aug 2018 #2
I had to read something at a memorial, and the poem "The Measure of a Man".... moriah Aug 2018 #7
Stirring. Thanks for posting it. scipan Aug 2018 #13
I'm always angered and saddened by the fact that we make enemies of the nations we need most Aristus Aug 2018 #3
trump has no class bdamomma Aug 2018 #4
A Strong Statement ConstanceCee Aug 2018 #5
Yes, that jumped out at me, too. LisaM Aug 2018 #8
THEFT, THEFT, and more THEFT. calimary Aug 2018 #10
Vietnam/US relations. Another bright point for cheetolini to shit all over. marble falls Aug 2018 #6
. Achilleaze Aug 2018 #11
What kind things for him to say. How shameful his jailer gave him more of a tribute than Trump.nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #12
You mean the guy who was in charge of torturing McCain? former9thward Aug 2018 #14

Cary

(11,746 posts)
9. Unindicted CoConspirator is a moron...
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 02:36 PM
Aug 2018

regardless what he has seen.

Just wanted to add that fact.

Roy Rolling

(6,918 posts)
2. A famous poem comes to mind
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 02:16 PM
Aug 2018
To set the cause above renown,
To love the game beyond the prize.
To honor while you strike him down,
The foe that comes with fearless eyes.

To find the battle of life good,
And dear the land that gave you birth.
And dearer yet, the brotherhood,
That binds the brave of all the Earth.


Of course, "sisterhood:, too, or "personhood". But this is h ow the poem is written.

The point, McCain has more in common with his jailer than Trump.



moriah

(8,311 posts)
7. I had to read something at a memorial, and the poem "The Measure of a Man"....
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 02:33 PM
Aug 2018

... fit this wonderful lady beautifully.

So before I read it, I said, "I briefly considered changing the gender in this poem, but I knew Kitty would come back for the sole purpose of smacking me upside the head for ruining the meter just because she was a woman. So, not desiring a smack from beyond the grave..."

It made them laugh because it was true, she was an English major and likely would have!

scipan

(2,351 posts)
13. Stirring. Thanks for posting it.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 06:16 PM
Aug 2018

Looked it up and it was a pre WWI British propaganda effort. Newbolt, the author, worked at the Ministry of Information.

It seems to fit McCain, especially the brotherhood part.

Aristus

(66,391 posts)
3. I'm always angered and saddened by the fact that we make enemies of the nations we need most
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 02:19 PM
Aug 2018

as allies. Vietnam, Iran, etc.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
8. Yes, that jumped out at me, too.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 02:34 PM
Aug 2018

I will never, ever apologize for the fact that we nominated Gore, then Kerry, and then Hillary when we did. They'd all have made fantastic presidents, and this country and the world would be far, far better if they'd been elected, or allowed to assume the office they would have won without suppression, manipulation, rigging, and theft.

calimary

(81,323 posts)
10. THEFT, THEFT, and more THEFT.
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 02:56 PM
Aug 2018

They can only win if they CHEAT. And they can't win UNLESS THEY CHEAT.

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