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Tweeted 20 minutes ago by the former Gitmo chief prosecutor:
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He was responding to this Washington Post tweet/story:
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oberliner
(58,724 posts)shanny
(6,709 posts)everyone will know you are the scum of the earth.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)And yet there is a hard core group of Trump supporters who don't seem to know that even with everything he has said and done to this point.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)And then quit his job when they put two men above him in chain of command, who supported torture and had been involved in it at Guantanamo previously.
He was fired from a job at one point for writing personal opinion editorials against torture (during Obama's administration), then won back pay in a lawsuit over that. It was the Library of Congress who fired him...not Obama. He thought Obama should pursue criminal actions or other accountability over those who had used torture.
He's a pretty outspoken man. And I agree with everything I read about what he said.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The Guantánamo I Know
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/26/opinion/26davis.html
Beartracks
(12,816 posts)elmac
(4,642 posts)yet, 2/3rds vets voted for him and will probably do it again. Did the same for George W.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)They may sometimes hold their noses, though. The Repubs are more likely to give the Defense Dept money for equipment and raises. It's in their self interest. Most people vote for their self interest, I think.
proglib217
(88 posts)If people voted in their best interests, we would have 100 Democratic Senators and a Democratic majority of something like 450-85 in the House.
The caveat -- if we made it *knowingly* voted in their best interests it might be true. My guess is that most of those who vote against their own best interests are too uninformed to realize they're shooting themselves in the foot.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I've read this argument a few times about certain groups of people, but IMO, sometimes people who are saying that are not getting right what others' interests are. For example, if someone is evangelical, his best interests might be economical, or it might be upholding religious principles (like anti-abortion). Or a union worker may regard jobs as more important than union-backing. And the military might regard an ample defense budget as more important than the economy in general, religion, civil rights.
I grew up in a deep south area near Bible thumpin' rural people. They regard the economy as important, but they also regard upholding their values as equally important. Some do NOT want transgenders with penises in the bathrooms with their daughters, and they'll go to polls and vote specifically on that one issue. They really do feel that way. Or they'll go to the polls to vote against socialism, even if it means disrupting Social Security. I know it's nuts, but that's how they feel. (Some are also not educated or not too swift, so they will believe whatever their conservative leaders tell them. Case in point: the tax cut bill helps THEM.)
I've seen already in our local community FB group & FB pages of our Senators, bragging about the PAY RAISE they're going to give the military. The Defense Dept already got a HUGE budget in the Tax Cut Bill or the budget, whichever it was. So the military is going to vote for whoever is going to give them money, probably. And that's the Republicans. The Repubs are already spreading that message.
The Repubs are already talking about "a vote for Democrats is a vote for socialism." The base will go to the polls and vote against socialism. They won't equate that with hurting them economically. They simply don't believe that. And they would still vote against socialism (and other things), even if it meant it hurt them economically. There are exceptions, like coal miners, who are exclusively focused on the coal business.
I think Dems are more economically focused, as well as safety net social programs, and civil rights.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)Nobody would admit voting for him, from '08 through today. No candidate asked him to stump for them in '08 '10 '12 '14 '16.
That shows how much his vet supporters backed him.
Cha
(297,323 posts)highplainsdem
(49,005 posts)AwakeAtLast
(14,132 posts)Petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty, petty little fingered man!
spanone
(135,846 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Good for him. Good for us.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,435 posts)to Spanky McShithole's asshat tweet.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)Isn't there any bottom to his inflicting of indignities? There is no redemption for this soulless creature. "Sad."
If I were ever to meet up with him. I'd have a hard time not spitting in his ugly face.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I'm totally with you on this Tunsie! Every word!
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)Remember a few months ago when White House staffers were joking about McCain dying soon and it was leaked. Rather than apologize, the White House and Fox News defended the comments by attacking the leaks.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/14/politics/kelly-sadler-mccain-white-house/index.html
(CNN)Last week in the White House, an aide to President Donald Trump "joked" that John McCain's opposition to CIA nominee Gina Haspel was largely immaterial because "he's dying anyway."
No one disputes that Kelly Sadler, the aide in question, said it about the Arizona senator, who is battling terminal brain cancer.
And yet, the Trump White House has refused to apologize for the remark, continues to employ Sadler and, in the most appalling twist, attempted to make the entire episode a parable of leaking as opposed to one of classlessness.
"The so-called leaks coming out of the White House are a massive over exaggeration put out by the Fake News Media in order to make us look as bad as possible," Trump tweeted Monday afternoon. "With that being said, leakers are traitors and cowards, and we will find out who they are."
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)The sooner the better. They already have so many reasons to hate him.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Their hypocrisy makes me sick. There is always enough for wars and military hardware, but never enough for the people who have served. It's an absolute disgrace!
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)bjvom
(51 posts)No sane and sober HUMAN BEING...
FIFY
yuiyoshida
(41,832 posts)having daily tantrums.