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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 04:36 PM Aug 2018

Fact check: Under no circumstances is a 44% presidential approval rating 'remarkably stable'

It is just spin by the right wing hacks who run the WSJ editorial board and always have.

44% is not a good approval rating. -8 net disapproval is not a good approval rating. And the president’s party trailing by 8 points just weeks before the midterms is not a remarkably stable situation. The opposition party hitting 50% in generic polling is also not a ‘remarkably’ stable situation.

44% has big blue wave written all over it. We don’t have to have Dotard approval ratings 30 or under to win big in November. Not at all!

Tired of the goalposts always being moved for Trump. Any president with 44% approval has big problems. Period.

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J_William_Ryan

(1,756 posts)
2. It's also an indicator
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 04:42 PM
Aug 2018

of just how polarizing Trump is.

There’s nothing Trump can say or do to win over those who oppose him – and appropriately so.

And there’s nothing Trump can say or do that will turn his blind partisan followers against him, rendering Trump supporters just as reprehensible as Trump.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,043 posts)
4. It is stable in the sense of little changed. Not stable in the sense of unassailable.
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 04:43 PM
Aug 2018

They used it looking back over the data.

You are using it looking forward.

Woosh. Two rockets at different altitudes going in opposite directions.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. 44% is pretty high for someone like trump. I suspect there are more who will vote for trump again,
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 04:48 PM
Aug 2018

even if they don't "approve" now.

Keep in mind that some white wingers that don't approve of him at the moment are just mad he hasn't deported 5 million people who came here for a better life, nuked Iran and N Korea, killed several thousand liberals on TV, abolished Medicare, etc.

A 44% "approval" rate after what he's done, doesn't portend a Blue Wave to me. Although I hope the heck it happens and we send him a real message in November.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
6. Stable or steady is not synonymous with good.
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 04:50 PM
Aug 2018

The fact of the matter is Trump's approval rating has been *far* steadier than than of any of his predecessors (19 months into their presidencies).

Cults don't care what their leader does or says, or what the press says about him/her. It's as if the leader could shoot someone in broad daylight on, say, 5th Avenue in New York and not lose a supporter. Just as a crazy hypothetical off the top of my head.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
7. It isn't just media aren't the only ones spinning shit unfortunately, DU members are spinning too.
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 05:01 PM
Aug 2018

And it isn't just the media setting the bar low for Trump. We're all pretty much guilty of it.

Just read some of these posts. A 42% approval rating in this economy is completely embarrassing. Utter shit. Morning Consult gave Trump an adjusted -20 disapproval just a few days ago. That is epic shittiness.

Trump is not popular, and he's not a shoo-in for a second term. His shit ratings are only being propped up because of the great economy he inherited.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
9. Except I've seen this song and dance before
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 05:17 PM
Aug 2018

Bush gave a primetime Oval address to the nation in December 2005 about how wonderful the Iraq war was. His approval jumped from 43% to 46% in the immediate Post/ABC poll and I honestly remember their blaring headline that Bush was popular again now and all was well. He went on to lose both houses 11 months later.

I think terminology used by the WSJ was intentionally trying to poke us in the eye. ‘Consistent’ or ‘moving in a a narrow range’ would have been less biased terminology than ‘remarkably stable!’!

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
12. Stable as in zero chance to drop to 30% or nearby
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 07:21 PM
Aug 2018

I think that's what some of us object to, the near-daily predictions here that Trump's numbers are soon to freefall to low 30s if not further.

That is rank ignorance, and anyone who has Republican friends or family members understands that. Too many posters here watch some negative story develop and project massive sea changes in approval ratings and Trump's status. Never going to happen. I talked to my Republican aunt today. She had no clue regarding anything Trump said about McCain or McCain said or felt about Trump.

They are in their own world. As long as immigrants are considered bad and churchgoers considered awesome and in need of protection, then Donald Trump is a national treasure.

Takket

(21,625 posts)
14. "stable" does not mean "good"
Sun Aug 26, 2018, 07:33 PM
Aug 2018

The poll you are referencing was taken before the Cohen/Manafort convictions/admissions. So NBC/WSJ took the same poll again afterwards to see if the convictions effected his approval rating and found (to no one's surprise) that it did not.

By remarkably stable they meant that it seems unbelievable that all these things are not effecting his bedrock base support. The phrase is more a shot at the stupidity of drumpf voters then a "positive spin" for drumpf.

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