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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow much longer will Trump be in office?
What does your gut tell you in regards to Trumpy's numbered days in the White House? Will we have to endure another two months? Six months? A year?
I'm looking forward to the finale of The White House Apprentice with "You're fired" being shouted at Trump, but how long until he gets evicted?
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)exboyfil
(17,865 posts)True Dough
(17,320 posts)will catch up to him before the next federal election?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Resignation is the most likely, especially if he engineers pardons for him and gis family
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)I think that happens sooner than many think.
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)But who knows!
grantcart
(53,061 posts)He quit 2 previous attempts at President
He quit his marriages
He quit being a father to his children until they were grown
He has quit hundreds of business efforts including massive bankruptcies.
He quit being in the Democratic party, the reform party and detestable most of the people in the Republican party.
He has survived by doing cost/benefit analysis and when things are bad, just quitting.
He quit doing anything new with NY real estate and casinos.
If offered a deal to get a pardon that would eliminate all criminal prosecution he would be gone before the ink dried.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Resigning would put a serious dent in that fantasy.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Don't assume the snake oil salesman believes his own enthusiastic palp.
He folded on Trump University law suit after the election even though he promoted the fantasy that he would never quit.
Avenatti has him measured to the millimeter and has been right on every projection and predicts a resignation.
He is more deliberate and rational than the TV clown he plays.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)One way or another - he must be defeated.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)True Dough
(17,320 posts)We don't know how much Mueller will reveal before the 2020 election. The evidence might be so damning that Trump is marched out of the White House in handcuffs.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The best we can hope for is that he will be resoundingly voted out of office (and perhaps handcuffs will come later).
True Dough
(17,320 posts)proof that the president is NOT immune from prosecution. If the crimes are serious enough, that could happen.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,973 posts)Show your work.
Lacking that, can you get a screenshot of your crystal ball or other prognosticative contrivance?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)None of us can truly see the future.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,434 posts)It will get worse the more Trumpy's problems increase. He'll lose more of his sycophants in the White House, and won't be able to replace them with anyone but future and present "Team B" sycophants, if at all. (Katrina Pierson for Chief of Staff!) We'll have Trumpy saying that he doesn't need anyone else to run the WH, that he can do it all himself. Go for it, Two-Scoops. You're the Man.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Disarray is an understatement.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)trump's 'wealth, power and influence' come largely from putin's huge 'loans' and influence.
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)If some individual might just get to the point where they can't take Trump any more
and decide to take the issue of his removal from office into their own hands.
Not suggesting anything at all. It's simply that out of 300 million people
no two minds work alike and we are all unpredictable.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)Submariner
(12,509 posts)we're probably stuck with this POS until 2020, because he can't be shamed.
If evidence can be unearthed that he has, or had, sex with his daughter Ivanka, then maybe he can be shamed out of office. Does a doorman or maid know anything?
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Until about next August.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)When the house becomes majority Dems, then the hearings begin, trump will run. OR if Putin decides that trump is no longer of any use to him or his wealthy buddies, then they will dump him along with all of the evidence they have on trump.
rollin74
(1,990 posts)Pence would be a lot worse than Trump anyway
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)2naSalit
(86,775 posts)with the rest of the mob.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)2naSalit
(86,775 posts)This will continue until we purge our halls of governance of this cancer, he's one of the bigger malignant tumors.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)The Senate won't convict, instead opting to hold more hearings on Hillary's e-mails and Benghazi.
So 2021.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)anticipating a RICO case to be made public soon which will implicate a majority of Congresscritters and I expect that they will be effectively neutered in their ability to do anything to protect any of the gang. That's what I see coming soon to a screen near me and you.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)Here is what I see as the slimmest, best hope for getting rid of Trump: the powers that be in Republicanland decide that, in the event we are to continue to have free and more or less fair elections, opt to try to salvage 2020 by installing Pence. Consider that Gerald Ford came damn close to winning in '76, despite Watergate and having pardoned Nixon.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)During the meantime, we need to focus on retaking Congress so that he gets rendered sterile for the next two years until his defeat.
Having him stay in office with the stench that is building around him does the maximum amount of damage to the Republican Party, that is what I want to see.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)He will walk away the moment he figured walking away is in his best interest.
Im not sure what that will take, but it will either be he starts getting slammed by our new House majority or else the noose tightens so much that Pence and the GOP establishment go to him and say Look, if you want a pardon for yourself quit now and we will do it, otherwise you are screwed the moment you leave office
I hope he doesnt quite. Our prospects for 2020 are far stronger with him still on the ballot.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,630 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)He has gone to bankruptcy multiple times.
In the end he will do a cost/benefit analysis and if he can get all of his criminal problems to go away with a simple resignation he will take it.
I don't think people realize how many legal threats he has brewing.
Just this week a suit from an "Apprentice" person was allowed to proceed with allegations of an onscreen groping.
His financial future is getting worse by the day and he has only one option to improve it, leave the White House and get back to monetizing his "victim hood".
A resignation with pardon solves all of his serious criminal charges, gives him time to fight the dozens of serious civil charges and allows him to find ways to resuscitate his cash flow before he implodes.
As for the timing I think he will move before the new Congress is sworn in.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)The winner getting a DU Star Membership!
bellmartin
(218 posts)Armymedic88
(251 posts)Thanksgiving
True Dough
(17,320 posts)without the biggest turkey of them all!
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,895 posts)Even if Democrats take both the House and Senate in November, they won't have 67 Democrats in the Senate, which is what's needed to convict him even if the House impeaches him.
Republicans in the House and Senate are by and large quite happy with Trump, because he is doing a great job of dismantling what had made this country great. Rolling back EPA regulations. Destroying the ACA. Letting big corporations do whatever they want. And so on.
Pence would be worse but in a different way. Pence would move us to a religious dictatorship, rather than the secular mad-man one Trump is heading for. Also, if Trump leaves office and Pence replaces him, Pence wouldn't be out there saying outrageous, factually incorrect things 80 times a day. He'd appear quite sane in comparison, which would bring a whole lot of Republicans back into that fold two years from now. And if Republicans succeed in disenfranchising many of those who'd vote Democratic, say good-bye to a Democrat winning the Oval Office in 2020.
The brutal truth is that so much damage has been done, that if some magic occurred, and some wonderful Democrat became President shortly after this November, it will be years before that damage can be undone.
Squinch
(51,004 posts)kimbutgar
(21,188 posts)Retiring to Russia.
Cousin Dupree
(1,866 posts)unimaginable depths to avoiding leaving office. Too bad we have to resort to spells and /or prayers to get er done.
Claritie Pixie
(2,199 posts)Hell tey to hold it together but will crack. The man is a coward...rather than withstand the inevitable, he will quit and play martyr.
sarisataka
(18,770 posts)879.
That is best case. Worst, I'm off by 1461 days
iloveObama12
(421 posts)This Year Is Up! 2018...
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)The two immunity deals unlock enough on Trump that Mueller won't feel he needs to wait until after the election.
The finance guy, and the guy that squashed all the dirt, boost Mueller's already' beefy pile of evidence.
Trump and Rudy have both been making weak "you can't indict" arguments the past two days...Did I really read a comment where Rudy said "you take our power we take your life" or something equally stupid? I need to go follow that up...
Anyway, Trump knows it's time to go, and does. Wont save him though.
Not sure where Pence falls in all this just yet.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)I remember seeing these threads left and right after his inauguration, before I was a registered poster. People across the board were saying two months, three months, six months at most.
Nineteen months later, here we are. If he is forced to resign before his term is up, awesome. But I'm not counting on it.
Brother Buzz
(36,463 posts)He will travel to Mar-a-Lago for the Thanksgiving holiday and never bother to return. He will, however, taunt and tweet from his bunker, "Come and get me, tough guys....".
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)To many Republicans in office remember eight years under a democratic president. They will stick with trump right up to when he is voted out.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,049 posts)Once the tax returns are public, a few weeks after Democrats take over House and/or Senate.
After that, it is not a question of resignation or impeachment, it is a question of extradition.
mysteryowl
(7,396 posts)That would be easier to see.
I'm just afraid this will, realistically, take much longer than any of us would like.