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RockRaven

(14,998 posts)
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 10:24 PM Aug 2018

If you're Mueller, and Jarvanka come to you w/ an offer to flip entirely on Dolt45, Jr & Eric

but only if they completely walk free w/o penalty, would you make that deal?

[assume that magically a) you know they'd both truly deliver every dirty secret detail they know and b) this is how pleas/proffers work -- which obviously isn't so]

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If you're Mueller, and Jarvanka come to you w/ an offer to flip entirely on Dolt45, Jr & Eric (Original Post) RockRaven Aug 2018 OP
Yes. No hesitation. Nt Bleacher Creature Aug 2018 #1
No, because they are as guilty as trump still_one Aug 2018 #2
Never happen. Ever. democratisphere Aug 2018 #3
Only if they forfeit all $$ gained from their association with Trump during time in DC hlthe2b Aug 2018 #4
No. Weisselberg will give all the information needed to jail the Dump crime family. roamer65 Aug 2018 #5
Exactly 2naSalit Aug 2018 #17
That Would Be A Dream After Drinking Half A Bottle Of Stoli.. Grassy Knoll Aug 2018 #6
Yes. MaryMagdaline Aug 2018 #7
Ivanka Would Never Do That LandOfHopeAndDreams Aug 2018 #8
Oh, I think she's just like Daddy-- dawg day Aug 2018 #20
That's exactly how and why deals get made. Sam Graviano got to walk with 18 murders to his credit... marble falls Aug 2018 #9
Never in a million years Generic Brad Aug 2018 #10
Amen, not a second thought about it! 2naSalit Aug 2018 #18
That all depends Jarqui Aug 2018 #11
We can get John Donald, Uday and Husay without giving Jarvanka a free pass jmowreader Aug 2018 #12
No mercy for any of them! None! GemDigger Aug 2018 #13
nope Takket Aug 2018 #14
If you'd asked the question last week, I would've said yes Mr. Ected Aug 2018 #15
nope, i would not trust them JI7 Aug 2018 #16
Sure dawg day Aug 2018 #19

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
17. Exactly
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 01:27 AM
Aug 2018

those two need to see a prison cell for a long time. No immunity for any family ember!!! They ALL go to prison!

MaryMagdaline

(6,856 posts)
7. Yes.
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 10:37 PM
Aug 2018

They are crooked but I don’t believe they would have turned out so badly with another father. If they help us get rid of the cancer, yes.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
20. Oh, I think she's just like Daddy--
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 02:27 AM
Aug 2018

She'd cut him loose, like he'd cut her loose. There's no evidence of love in that family, except maybe Melania for her son.

marble falls

(57,204 posts)
9. That's exactly how and why deals get made. Sam Graviano got to walk with 18 murders to his credit...
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 10:45 PM
Aug 2018

for turning on John Gotti.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
10. Never in a million years
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 10:49 PM
Aug 2018

They betrayed all that is honest and decent. They have stolen from us. They took our money, our future, and our rightful leader.

LOCK THEM UP!!!!

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
11. That all depends
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 10:50 PM
Aug 2018

Do I need them to convict Trump and the main co-conspirators?

If not, no deal.

They have some really key pieces now:
- Gates who has all the inside stuff on Manafort
- Flynn who has all the inside stuff on the back door deal they tried to cut with the Russians
- Papadopoulos may be having second thoughts ... on ratting out more
- Pecker who probably knows many of the unscrupulous places Trump parked his dick over the last 20 or so years and what he did about it - maybe an abortion ...
- Cohen who knows many of the sleazy deals as Trumps fixer and was involved with trying to get a Trump tower in Russia
- Weisselberg who knows all the financial transactions and tax returns for decades. To me, by far, he's the most important fish to date - over all the others combined. He's the gateway to tax evasion, offshore bank accounts, bank fraud, etc. I think they'll be able to put a case together ten times what they were able to do to Manafort and we'll all forget about Stormy and Karen payments comparatively.

The key question: is there enough there to flush out the Russian conspiracy?

If the answer is no, flip one of the kids and the conspiracy game is over.

But the rest of the game already above, is going to end Trump as president anyway. The only question now is when.


jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
12. We can get John Donald, Uday and Husay without giving Jarvanka a free pass
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 10:51 PM
Aug 2018

The only way Jarvanka would make that deal is if they knew they were going to prison along with her brothers and their mobster patriarch. Which also means they NEED to go to prison, and we need to make sure they do.

Takket

(21,625 posts)
14. nope
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 12:04 AM
Aug 2018

Mueller has all the evidence he needs to destroy the entire cabal without their help.

LOCK THEM UP

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
15. If you'd asked the question last week, I would've said yes
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 01:00 AM
Aug 2018

But with all the immunity deals of the past several days, Mueller seems to have the whole Trump cabal surrounded. No need to show mercy at this juncture.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
19. Sure
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 02:25 AM
Aug 2018

Mueller's pretty ruthless when he's got his eyes on the prize. And the prize isn't pretty precious Jared and Ivanka.

They'll be ruined anyway, and since being admired is the most important thing for them, that will be some punishment.

Getting Trump out is all important.

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