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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf you're Mueller, and Jarvanka come to you w/ an offer to flip entirely on Dolt45, Jr & Eric
but only if they completely walk free w/o penalty, would you make that deal?
[assume that magically a) you know they'd both truly deliver every dirty secret detail they know and b) this is how pleas/proffers work -- which obviously isn't so]
Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)still_one
(92,395 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)hlthe2b
(102,359 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)2naSalit
(86,775 posts)those two need to see a prison cell for a long time. No immunity for any family ember!!! They ALL go to prison!
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,856 posts)They are crooked but I dont believe they would have turned out so badly with another father. If they help us get rid of the cancer, yes.
LandOfHopeAndDreams
(872 posts)Perhaps Jared, but Never Ivanka.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)She'd cut him loose, like he'd cut her loose. There's no evidence of love in that family, except maybe Melania for her son.
marble falls
(57,204 posts)for turning on John Gotti.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)They betrayed all that is honest and decent. They have stolen from us. They took our money, our future, and our rightful leader.
LOCK THEM UP!!!!
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)Jarqui
(10,130 posts)Do I need them to convict Trump and the main co-conspirators?
If not, no deal.
They have some really key pieces now:
- Gates who has all the inside stuff on Manafort
- Flynn who has all the inside stuff on the back door deal they tried to cut with the Russians
- Papadopoulos may be having second thoughts ... on ratting out more
- Pecker who probably knows many of the unscrupulous places Trump parked his dick over the last 20 or so years and what he did about it - maybe an abortion ...
- Cohen who knows many of the sleazy deals as Trumps fixer and was involved with trying to get a Trump tower in Russia
- Weisselberg who knows all the financial transactions and tax returns for decades. To me, by far, he's the most important fish to date - over all the others combined. He's the gateway to tax evasion, offshore bank accounts, bank fraud, etc. I think they'll be able to put a case together ten times what they were able to do to Manafort and we'll all forget about Stormy and Karen payments comparatively.
The key question: is there enough there to flush out the Russian conspiracy?
If the answer is no, flip one of the kids and the conspiracy game is over.
But the rest of the game already above, is going to end Trump as president anyway. The only question now is when.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)The only way Jarvanka would make that deal is if they knew they were going to prison along with her brothers and their mobster patriarch. Which also means they NEED to go to prison, and we need to make sure they do.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Takket
(21,625 posts)Mueller has all the evidence he needs to destroy the entire cabal without their help.
LOCK THEM UP
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)But with all the immunity deals of the past several days, Mueller seems to have the whole Trump cabal surrounded. No need to show mercy at this juncture.
JI7
(89,264 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)Mueller's pretty ruthless when he's got his eyes on the prize. And the prize isn't pretty precious Jared and Ivanka.
They'll be ruined anyway, and since being admired is the most important thing for them, that will be some punishment.
Getting Trump out is all important.