Ocasio-Cortez bans press from town hall.

[lapucelle]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeted on Monday that stops on her “listening tour” throughout the district, like the one held a day earlier in Corona, are “intended for lively, compassionate discourse with a diversity of viewpoints.”

According to the Democratic nominee in the 14th Congressional District, she and the dozens of area residents who attended the event “talked about race, immigration, healthcare, disability rights and housing.”

But unless you were in the room on Sunday, you won’t know what specific community problems were mentioned or how Ocasio-Cortez planned to address them once she is sworn in.

http://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/ocasio-cortez-bans-press-from-town-hall/article_e59fba26-ddd9-559a-af62-e11dd76e1191.html

[manor321]

1. Ridiculous

The press is the watch guard for the people. I'm liking this person less and less.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

2. Who can blame AOC, after the way the press has mistreated her.

[Claritie Pixie]

6. That sounds like something The Asset would say.

A person running for public office wanting to block the media from what they say to constituents in a public forum is not ok considering the current antagonistic climate towards the press. We need transparancy more than ever.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

12. You mean like roping off the press?

[George II]

17. You're comparing roping off the press to banning them outright?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

19. The result is pretty much the same.

[George II]

21. Roping them off in the back of the room or a corner will still allow them to REPORT on the event.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

33. No difference, a member of the press could still attend as an ordinary citizen & report on the event

[SunSeeker]

47. A ban is different. It appears from the article she blocked press and their cameras/video equipment.

Not having their broadcasting equipment is like taking the pen out of the hand of a writer. Why require the press to go undercover without their equipment when you could just rope them off and they can use their equipment?

[mcar]

48. No, it really isn't

[sheshe2]

97. Why are you bringing Hillary into this, for pete's sake?

Geez, but Hillary!

[Me.]

106. Her Emails Doncha Know

she's so establishment...

[sheshe2]

115. Cracks me the hell up.

Seriously. No posts quoting a candidate, Senator or anyone affiliated with the self proclaimed Progressives can take even mild criticism without the familiar refrain..."What About Hillary."

[Me.]

127. I Think They're Studying The Wrong 'Leader'

The Distractor

[sheshe2]

139. Yup.

[BannonsLiver]

123. That's a great question

So far that poster in this thread has:

1-Disparaged the press with irrational criticism.

2-Played the “Hillary card”

Remind me again who else plays those cards to the hilt every chance they get?
I can't...quite...place it.

[sheshe2]

125. Thanks.

Give me a few...I am sure it will come to me.

[Sophia4]

89. Seems to me that if the media was not there, it was not a public forum.

Were certain voters invited and others not invited?

I've had private meetings with politicians with no press present. The meetings were not large. I'd need more information on this.

[lapucelle]

112. No. If you need more information, read the Chronicle's story and editorial.

We can’t recall the last time a candidate for office held a town hall-style campaign event and barred the press from attending. And while Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s team gave some decent reasons why she did so last Sunday in Corona, we still think it was a bad choice and hope she doesn’t make it a habit.

http://www.qchron.com/opinion/editorial/aoc-must-deal-with-press/article_882eed8d-4056-5f74-88ca-f5e7185717b5.html

[Claritie Pixie]

116. It's a townhall meeting. Those are public.

[jcgoldie]

99. Exactly.

the truth shall set you free.

[BannonsLiver]

124. +100000

The Asset and his army of mouth breathers.

[Fullduplexxx]

7. Perhaps she should call them the enemy of the people.... however

The media seems to be to find their balls when covering dems not ao much with the cons

[NCTraveler]

9. Fake News!

[SkyDancer]

58. It's right wing news

See my post here

[ismnotwasm]

74. But is it true? See my google search here

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/homenews/media/402360-ocasio-cortez-slammed-for-banning-press-from-public-event%3famp


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mediaite.com/online/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-banned-the-media-from-her-latest-town-hall-event/amp/

Ect. Ect

[lapucelle]

90. The story was broken by a local Queens newspaper

that gave her a lot of positive coverage during her primary run. Here's what they have to say in an editorial today.

At a prior event in the Bronx, she was “mobbed” by reporters even though her campaign had told the media there would be no question-and-answer period and no one-on-one interviews, her team said. Hence the barring of the press from both another event in the Bronx and the one here. Also, they wanted residents to be able to speak their minds without the distraction of reporters and cameras. But, they said, these were the first of AOC’s events the press was barred from, and that will not become the norm.

We’re going to hold her to that. Ocasio-Cortez has been granting interviews to major media outlets nationwide since becoming a progressive Democratic star, and she should not forget the Queens press once elected — especially the paper that gave her run more and better coverage than any other here when she was seen as the underdog.

http://www.qchron.com/opinion/editorial/aoc-must-deal-with-press/article_882eed8d-4056-5f74-88ca-f5e7185717b5.html

[NCTraveler]

80. Look over there!

[SkyDancer]

82. Why am I not shocked

that some on here would buy into Republican hit pieces about Democrats but hey! She's supported by that bad man named Bernie, amiright?

[NCTraveler]

85. What does Bernie have to do with this?

He would never turn down a camera.

Are you saying she didn’t ban the press? Seems you are just trying to malign good DU’ers as being duped for right wing propaganda.

Can you provide a link showing the op is wrong?

That would be better than “look over there”.

Are you really calling her own campaign manager a right winger? A right wing dupe? That's complete nonsense.

"We decided to do community events that would attempt to create a sort of different environment — an environment that was a little more intimate by excluding cameras and press" Direct quote from her campaign manager.

If you want to go around calling good progressives on DU dupes of the right wing, you should get your facts straight.

[R B Garr]

161. I was told that saying she changed her website is

a RW attack.

[lapucelle]

94. The story was broken by a respected local newspaper

that gave AOC positive coverage both before and after her primary win.

[lapucelle]

95. It's unconscionable that anyone would slur a good local newspaper

that gave an "upstart" candidate lots of positive coverage before she was a household name and lauded her after her win because that newspaper objects to being closed out of public campaign events.

No, you are not right. As a matter of fact, you couldn't be more wrong.

[Cha]

134. Why am I not shocked that you would make this about a personal insult to Dems

on DU?

You're the only one bringing BS into this.

This is a local paper reporting this in the OP.. and you're falsely accusing her of rw sources.

http://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/a-guide-to-tuesday-s-federal-primary-races/article_86de8c7b-4bb3-5e18-9168-a7208e90019f.html

http://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/ocasio-cortez-makes-history-stuns-crowley/article_1f574528-15f8-5319-8a7b-d2d1b8b9de04.html

http://www.qchron.com/editions/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-crushes-joe-crowley-in-primary-stunner/article_a693f0f2-79b5-11e8-b80d-6bb8ec78bc3d.html

lapucelle

[grantcart]

166. Nothing will shake the "beloveds" devotion for those raised up to "teach" Dems the correct path

[Eliot Rosewater]

176. AT least it could be fun watching everything burn to the ground, which between

KGB, GOP and a certain other bunch, is likely.

[Cha]

214. It's weird.. The OP is obviously NOT a rw news source but the poster

keeps insisting it is.. in light of FACTS.

[R B Garr]

224. I've noticed that, too. Just covering her campaign is RW.

Most politicians know the press comes with the territory.

[R B Garr]

236. I am not shocked that you are not shocked.

Reporters/press are the main fabric of our democracy — free press — so banning them is counter/intuitive to what their role is. Trump hates the press. He’s right wing. Actually, he’s a freak into himself, but he hates the press.

[lapucelle]

87. It's a local news story that was broken by a small Queens newspaper that supported AOC

throughout her run. She was unavailable to the local press for 7 weeks due to a cross country fundraising and publicity tour. Now she's barring the local press from her public events.

From today's editorial page of the Queens Chronicle

We can’t recall the last time a candidate for office held a town hall-style campaign event and barred the press from attending. And while Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s team gave some decent reasons why she did so last Sunday in Corona, we still think it was a bad choice and hope she doesn’t make it a habit.

The Democratic nominee for Congress in the 14th District — and virtually guaranteed winner because she has no real opponent — Ocasio-Cortez held the event as part of a “listening tour” around the district she will represent. At a prior event in the Bronx, she was “mobbed” by reporters even though her campaign had told the media there would be no question-and-answer period and no one-on-one interviews, her team said. Hence the barring of the press from both another event in the Bronx and the one here. Also, they wanted residents to be able to speak their minds without the distraction of reporters and cameras. But, they said, these were the first of AOC’s events the press was barred from, and that will not become the norm.

We’re going to hold her to that. Ocasio-Cortez has been granting interviews to major media outlets nationwide since becoming a progressive Democratic star, and she should not forget the Queens press once elected — especially the paper that gave her run more and better coverage than any other here when she was seen as the underdog.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

109. No. It's cold hard facts. But thanks for playing.

[R B Garr]

129. Is changing a website also RW news? nt

[sheshe2]

138. Hmmmmm nt

[Cha]

142. NO.. It is NOT "rw news" and you know it.

[ehrnst]

211. The Hill articles are cited on DU many, many times a week.

I would suggest that you research that before accusing multiple people on DU of violating TOS...

That can backfire.

Here, I did your research for you. You're welcome.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/12512259645

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210450404

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210439429

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10142039331

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/12512340731

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210938873

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210181315

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10142134501

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210172372

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/11742762

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10142134501

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210312123

[pnwmom]

13. Everyone who believes in transparency and in a free press. n/t

[J_William_Ryan]

218. Actually not.

AOC is a private citizen, not subject to the First Amendment, no violation of a free press..

[Hortensis]

15. Me. Authoritarian suppression of press coverage

so that the citizenry don't know what was discussed is antithetical to liberal values. Republicans do that. WE are the ones who wrote protection of the press into our constitution as critical to democracy.

This is a bad move for her would be constituents and for her. She needs the press to spread her message. What on earth has she been saying that she has to hide its spread?

And, in any case, her supporters shouldn't let partisanship cause them to abandon their values to it. That's what has destroyed the right, and it can take down this splinter movement also.

[George II]

54. This is politics, she'd better get used to this.

[fallout87]

84. You mean by quoting her

word for word? That kind of mistreatment?

[NurseJackie]

133. Aw.

[Cha]

135. How has "the press mistreated her"? Hasn't she

been the stunning victory person?

You don't ban the press.. President Obama never banned the press.

[pnwmom]

143. Yeah, that press is just "the enemy of the public," apparently.

Mistreating politicians right and left.

[Devil Child]

3. This is a non-issue and a mountain out of a mole-hill

I believe this is being brought up for concern-trolling and to diminish enthusiasm for Ocasio-Cortez by factionalists upset with her association with Sen. Sanders and OR.

Was anyone throwing a fit when Clinton didn't allow press access to certain events? I sure as hell didn't.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

14. Exactly!! Some here have short memories.

[Hortensis]

26. Devil Child, what is Ocasio saying that backfires

on her when the press report it?

Remember, she's a Tuesday surprise winner with only 5% over her entire district's voters choosing her. It's up to her to find out what her constituents really want and tell them how she will deliver it.

Is it that she isn't doing that but is still talking about what she wants? Is that why the coverage of her speeches isn't going over well?

[JustAnotherGen]

178. Her local Queens newspaper

Which has supported her is reporting - they aren't allowed.

Sanders and SOS Clinton have nothing to do with this.

If even THAT paper was not allowed - then she needs to her PEOPLE (not AOC but her campaign staff who made the decision) out to the woodshed.

Her accessibility is a selling feature.

[JCanete]

4. This is not going to be the norm according to them, and its not like Cortez doesn't give the media a

lot of access. And she's speaking to her constituents, not to bankers. If it does become the norm, obviously that is a problem and I won't defend it.

[MineralMan]

11. :shrug: I'm going to leave this to her district's voters.

Let them decide how they feel about locking the media out of events. I live in Minnesota, and can't vote in NYC.

[frazzled]

163. You should care

Because if this type of behavior on the part of a campaign is ignored or shrugged off it becomes normalized, and then the politicians in your beloved Minnesota will start doing it too. (I remember when Jesse Ventura required reporters to wear "Media Jackals" ID badges, and it concerned people everywhere.)

If you're concerned about the Democratic Party, as I am, you should care. I can accept quite a broad range of opinions in our party, because I understand that House members have to reflect the specific values and positions of their districts to a certain extent. But I can't accept political behavior that is either corrupt or authoritarian.

Please don't just shrug your shoulders to issues such as this. Transparency and a free press are issues of concern to everyone, especially in these times.

PS: It's not really up to the voters of her district, which is overwhelmingly Democratic (unless large numbers of Democrats decide to vote for the Republican, which is highly unlikely). She will win no matter what abuses of power and/or protocol she undertakes. It's also important because she has become, for unknown reasons, such a bellwether for the press in assessing the state of the Democratic Party. Everything she does therefore redounds to the party.

[MineralMan]

165. If you continued to read, you'd have discovered that the campaign

has realized its mistake and won't be doing that again. No input from me was needed. There's plenty of input right there.

It is precisely up to the voters in each district to choose their own representatives. if a candidate doesn't meet their standards, they have options in the election. Even in this election, OAC's primary opponent's name will still be on the ballot. He was the incumbent Democrat before she won the primary, but also ran as the endorsee of a third-party. If the voters choose, they can vote for him freely.

Not every Democratic candidate in the country would be my choice in my district. We select our own candidates here. Every district should do the same.

I cannot have any real impact in a district in New York, so I leave their choices to the voters of that district.

[frazzled]

167. You've clearly missed (or ignored) my point.

But then, when you're only concerned about your own district, it's not surprising. If you'd like to ignore the rest of the party, don't complain when we end up, as the Republicans did, with an ideologically rigid, morally bereft, Tea-Party-like majority.

And yes, I already knew what her campaign promised. It doesn't erase the issue of poor judgment, authoritarian behavior, or inexperience.

[MineralMan]

169. No, I've done neither of those things.

I put my woefully limited energy into local races, where my time is used most effectively. Others make different choices.

[brush]

5. WTH? With all the trump-induced, anti-press fever in the country that is not a good idea.

The press is not the enemy of the people. She should welcome the press.

FREEDOM OF THE PRESS IS THE FIRST ADMENDMENT, FOR GOD'S SAKE, NOT THE SECOND, NOT THE THIRD, NOT AN AFTERTHOUGHT AT ALL.

IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT AMENDMENT BECAUSE TRANSPARENCY OF OUR POLITICS/GOVERNMENT MAKES FOR AN INFORMED ELECTORATE.

She's getting bad advice from somewhere.

Unbelievable. You expect something like this from the trump cabal.

[Hortensis]

29. I like how you say it. Clear and direct.

[brush]

36. Thank you. Is trump's anti-press sentiment subconsciously influencing some Dems?

[Hortensis]

40. I wondered that for the same reasons.

Possibly, where principles fail to guide. But, sounds like they've learned a lesson: Just because it works on Republicans doesn't mean Democrats will accept it.

[pwb]

153. Should she welcome Fox News?

I wouldn't.

[True Dough]

51. It's a worrying trend

that hopeful does not become the new "norm."

[H2O Man]

8. Good.

[Voltaire2]

10. Read the damn article.

Here, I’ll help:

But when Ocasio-Cortez returned to the district for a Bronx community meeting with prominent healthcare activist Ady Barkan last Tuesday, her campaign manager, Vigie Ramos Rios, later told the Chronicle, she was “mobbed” by reporters, “even though we said no Q&A and no one-on-one [interviews].”
According to Ramos Rios and campaign spokesman Corbin Trent, that unwanted attention led to a press ban both for last Wednesday’s listening tour stop in the Bronx and Sunday’s in Corona.
“We wanted to help create a space where community members felt comfortable and open to express themselves without the distraction of cameras and press. These were the first set of events where the press has been excluded,” Trent said. “This is an outlier and will not be the norm. We’re still adjusting our logistics to fit Alexandria’s national profile.”

[pnwmom]

16. Pelosi gets mobbed, too. Imagine the uproar if she had done this in CA. n/t

[Voltaire2]

22. Read the damn article.

They are trying to figure out how to deal with a national press corp circus and have local interactive sessions with constituents.

If Peolosi was being attacked here using this sort of mendacious bullshit you would be justly outraged.

[pnwmom]

31. I read the damn article. Lots of other Congresspeople have had the issue of reporters "mobbing" them

[Hortensis]

35. Sounds like they realize they made a mistake.

It's backfired on them and they're trying to excuse it away as they arrange not to do it again..

Thing is, this isn't just a failure to handle the "logistics of her national profile" but of basic principle. Whoever made this decision might be better suited to work with Republicans. Hope she realizes it and keeps an eye out for further bad decisions.

[wellst0nev0ter]

23. I think these types of get-togethers are okay

As long as it doesn't become a habit. Constituents can be candid and speak their minds without having it recorded for the 10:00 news. Also negates the "photo-op" angle.

The problem is when you have closed-door meetings with powerful influencers, which these meetings are not.

[George II]

50. Imagine if this were Hillary Clinton?

[betsuni]

122. They'd be going out of their minds, demanding transcripts of what REALLY went on there.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

18. Good for her!!

[mountain grammy]

158. Yes.. good for her!

[George II]

20. The campaign manager said that she was mobbed.

Ever think of allowing the press and setting ground rules?

[Voltaire2]

24. That is exactly what the tried to do and it failed.

[sheshe2]

117. Was the campaign manager worried...

about her being mobbed when she went campaigning and endorsing across the country the last few weeks? She was mobbed and the media was not shut out then. Why now?

[brush]

32. Still a bad move. Horrible PR to have it out that she "banned the press".

That phrase should never come out of a Democratic campaign.

Nowadays you expect it from repugs, what with trump and his "the press is the enemy of the people" bullshit, but never from a Dem.

She has to figure out a way to campaign without issuing such an anti-First Amendment statement. And she hasn't even gotten to Washington and the national media there. It'll be even more intense there.

[kcr]

34. "Read the damn article!" Such a lazy response for those who have no argument. n/t

[brush]

39. I read the article. Her campaign should read the First Admendment.

[kcr]

49. I agree.

I don't get the excuses and arguments for this, especially when the press is fighting Trump right now. I'm reminded of the shadier people who quietly back her and I'm left wondering again just what her agenda is.

[sheshe2]

105. Bingo!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

41. There's a reason Alexandria is a rock star.

[Cha]

144. I'm grateful Gretchen Whitmer, Sharice Davids, and

Lacy Clay beat that "rock star's" endorsements.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Eliot Rosewater]

177. I cant get over how immature, childish and irresponsible it is to

use NOW as the time to challenge the party and try to change it from the ground up.

NOW?

Fuck that is stupid, I mean really fucking stupid

[lapucelle]

126. The local press in Queens (which gave her good coverage throughout her campaign

and fulsome praise after her win) was understandably disappointed when it was shut out after AOC's triumphant nation wide tour and her concomitant national press availability. It's a good idea to listen to local voices, including the local press.

And while Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s team gave some decent reasons why she [barred the press] last Sunday in Corona, we still think it was a bad choice and hope she doesn’t make it a habit.

snip====================================

At a prior event in the Bronx, [AOC] was “mobbed” by reporters even though her campaign had told the media there would be no question-and-answer period and no one-on-one interviews, her team said. Hence the barring of the press from both another event in the Bronx and the one here. Also, they wanted residents to be able to speak their minds without the distraction of reporters and cameras. But, they said, these were the first of AOC’s events the press was barred from, and that will not become the norm.

We’re going to hold her to that. Ocasio-Cortez has been granting interviews to major media outlets nationwide since becoming a progressive Democratic star, and she should not forget the Queens press once elected — especially the paper that gave her run more and better coverage than any other here when she was seen as the underdog.

http://www.qchron.com/opinion/editorial/aoc-must-deal-with-press/article_882eed8d-4056-5f74-88ca-f5e7185717b5.html

[mountain grammy]

156. Reasonable..

This is a right wing style headline with a fraction of information meant to get people pissed off.. but here at DU we're smarter than that. We read the entire article. We understand there was a reason for this, and while this might not be the perfect solution, it was a solution. You have to be buried to not understand the fear of this "socialist" candidate and she is now the favorite punching bag of Republicans, but us Democrats stick together.... right??????

[USALiberal]

180. LOL, if a GOPer used that lame excuse we would freak out. Nt

[George II]

25. Hm, a candidate for Congress is concerned about "unwanted attention"?

[Voltaire2]

28. A Democratic candidate for Congress gets regular abuse

on Democratic Underground.

“Hm”

[George II]

30. So you're okay with what can be considered "censoring" the press?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

43. Seriously!!

[emulatorloo]

113. Nah, this is a gaffe by AOC's campaign manager. As you know constructive criticism is allowed here

And constructive criticism is not “abuse”. Campaign manager’s handling of this was bad.

I hope this campaign manager does better by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in the future.

[Cha]

145. Democratic candidate gets called out by press for banning them from

a public event. It's reported on DU.. a Political Discussion board.

[vi5]

152. "SUPPORT DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES!!!" "NO CRITICISM OF DEMS!!"

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Yeah, right. The rise of AOC and a couple of other registered, official Democratic candidates this year have finally shown what that rule ACTUALLY means, as if it wasn't evident before that to anyone who didn't have two working eyes.

[LiberalLovinLug]

154. +1000

[Power 2 the People]

183. +5000

Sad and obvious.

[heaven05]

207. but, but???

AOC went all around our country with her mentor BS, even to Hawaii, to TEAR DOWN TRIED AND TRUE DEMOCRATS and continue to, as a minor faction, try to tear down our BIG TENT DEMOCRATIC PARTY. They went after a Party friend of mine and blew it. Thank God!!! My candidate is the best hope for our state. Period. They criticize DEMS, as the socialist democrats the faction is want to do, and they don't try to help us in these perilous times where unity is needed, not the sowing of lies and confusion!

[vi5]

220. She is a Democrat. She is the Democratic candidate for an upcoming election....

...There don't get to be any "But, but...." to the rules. Either they apply across the board or they do not. There have been plenty of Dems who criticize other Dems and the party from the right and we are told this is o.k. and we need to be o.k. with it because they are Dems and we need all of them and we are a big tent party.

Either the rules apply or they don't. I'm tired of the goalposts being moved as it suits people's needs.

We've spent 2 years hearing about how Bernie is not allowed to criticize the Democratic party (despite his vote being just as necessary to and loyal to Dems as anyone else) because he is not a registered Dem and that if he wants to he should join the party. So now we have Democrats running from the left and trying to have their say and to influence the direction of the party and we're told "No, no...this is different." And making it more craven, it's couched in the same "Now is not the time!!!" rhetoric that the gun nuts use to dissuade any change in that area as well.

If it's a big tent party where Joe Manchin or blue dogs or whoever else is allowed to distance themselves from or criticize the party and it's direction because "That's what his constituents want" or "It's what he needs to say to win and he'll support other Democrats!" then more liberal Democrats should be allowed the same.

We're told that "The primary process is where we get to duke it out and have our say as to the direction we want that race to go in." and that if people want change then they need to support their candidates in the primary. But now that we have Democrats doing that from a left of center ben, the same people want to complain that a Democratic candidate is endorsing other Democratic candidates in a Democratic primary.......just because it's not the Democrat they want.

I honestly don't even particular care one way or another about AOC, but it is painfully obvious that she has exposed a lot of the bullshit that's been spewed on this particular site and within the party in general that was used as excuses over the past 2 years or so.

[heaven05]

239. but, but, yeah, yeah, yeah

I watched a video of her when she appeared in a political venue. No, your explanation and defence. You are entitled to have your political candidates. Go for it. I WILL but, but until our Party has the unity or not needed to defeat the real enemies, the RW and not ANY Democrat. As much as 'blue dogs' ect bug the shit out of me, they don't sit out elections whining. They vote Democratic Party. You have a good one. Done with you.

[R B Garr]

225. I've noticed that, too. The OR group wants to push the kind

of Democrat they like, but they don’t like it when others do the same.

[ucrdem]

27. Getting on the wrong side of reporters before an election is not good.

Way not good.

[SkyDancer]

56. This is a RW hit piece on AOC

See my post here

[lapucelle]

98. It's a story broken by a good local newspaper that supported her run.

The Queens Chronicle is not a right wing newspaper.

http://www.qchron.com/opinion/editorial/alexandria-the-great-s-amazing-victory-over-crowley/article_2a78ae72-5ad6-5e53-9f30-26569f8872d9.html

[ucrdem]

119. They're having a field day with it, but that's to be expected.

Frankly it's one of many good reasons why reporters need to be accommodated during a campaign even when they make things difficult. Blowing off a request for information is one thing, but banning them from a public meeting is inviting all kinds of future trouble.

p.s. this probably isn't going to hurt her chances in Nov. but it does mean the knives will come out sooner than they might have otherwise.

[Lee-Lee]

162. You can't just dismiss anything you don't like as a "RW hit"

That’s just as bad as Trump screaming “fake news” just because he doesn’t like it.

Had you done the responsible thing and actually checked the source you would find they are far from anything right wing and generally give her very fair coverage.

[SkyDancer]

168. If you care to take a look

and see which agencies picked this up on the wire, you'd see it was RW news sites and I have given several examples of such.

My point stands. It's a RW hit piece on AOC

[Lee-Lee]

205. That's not how real life works

You don’t get to call news a “RW hit piece” because some RW outlets repeated it.

There is a lot of legitimate news out there, from legitimate sources, that gets repeated by RW sources because they think it advances their narrative. That doesn’t make the initial source that repeated actual facts less legitimate or somehow make them suddenly a right wing outlet.

You labeling anything you don’t like a a “RW hit” when it’s clearly not from a RW source at all is the same kind of logic Trump uses when he labels anything he doesn’t like “fake news”.

We on the left are better than that.

[LAS14]

151. One would like to think that the press works to do fair reporting in any case. nt

[Onyrleft]

38. She won her primary, that's it.

She is the democratic candidate.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

[lapucelle]

110. What's "it"?

[SunSeeker]

42. There are ways to keep the press from interfering without banning them.

Banning them implies she doesn't want what is discussed publicized. It makes it sound like she doesn't want transparency, that she has something to hide. Whether or not it was her intent to hide anything, it looks bad, especially with the press under assault by Trump. Rookie mistake. Hopefully she won't repeat it; the article does indicate it was a one-time thing.

AOC could have insisted journalists and their cameras stay in a cordoned off area to make room for constituents' interaction with her. I remember how some people mocked the velvet ropes separating the media at some Hillary rallies. But the ropes were there to let her interact with constituents and to keep the cameras from mobbing her.

[struggle4progress]

44. ugh. let's not copy the trumpsters

[Persondem]

45. When I was a Dem county chair way back when, all of our meetings were completely open.

Now I realize that 1. This is not an official party event and 2. She is in NY not NC, but it sure flies in the face of the principle of open government doing its business in the bright airy sunshine. Not to mention the marginalization of the 1st amendment at a time when we have twitler making the press out to be an "enemy of the people". Horrible optics. She really needs to get better advice. She caught lightening in a bottle in her primary, but imo, she has been misfiring ever since.

[mcar]

46. Not a good move

[mopinko]

52. jeebus people. stop taking the bait.

this is gaslighting, imho. holding our candidates to ridiculous standards is how they make a tan suit into a constitutional crisis.

this is one event. a listening session for her future constituents. it aint national news, and she doesnt have to put up w it becoming that.
she has a target on her back, and y'all taking your shots.

will we ever learn?

[brush]

60. Seriously. It's national news now. Banning the press? Bad move (see 1st Amendment).

She needs some pros on her staff who know better than to ever issue a "ban the press" edit.

[Gothmog]

53. K&R

[SkyDancer]

55. This is a RW hit piece

which the RW media has picked up on.

Odd you're posting RW stuff. Both the Washington Times & Washington Examiner are carrying this article and both are highlighted in a Google News Search about AOC.

Weird thing, that.

[Shumi]

59. I'm confident she will issue a denial

Soon.

[lapucelle]

93. The story was broken by a local Queens newspaper

that gave her positive coverage before and after her primary win.

http://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/a-guide-to-tuesday-s-federal-primary-races/article_86de8c7b-4bb3-5e18-9168-a7208e90019f.html

http://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/ocasio-cortez-makes-history-stuns-crowley/article_1f574528-15f8-5319-8a7b-d2d1b8b9de04.html

http://www.qchron.com/editions/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-crushes-joe-crowley-in-primary-stunner/article_a693f0f2-79b5-11e8-b80d-6bb8ec78bc3d.html

[George II]

57. In all my years in politics, both as a candidate, campaign official, etc.....

...I've never seen a Democrat prohibit the press from an event. Never!

[SkyDancer]

61. STOP buying into Republican propaganda!

FFS do people even bother to Google things?

[brush]

63. Be clear please. Did her campaign ban the press from an event or not?

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[SkyDancer]

66. This is a conservative hit piece on AOC

It shouldn't even be allowed here. It is only meant to divide us.

[George II]

71. Are the articles in a local Queens newspaper and The Hill "conservative hit pieces"?

You also posted the story from Fox News. Why are you spending so much time on "conservative" websites?

[SkyDancer]

76. The Hill is conservative

Why are you reading hit pieces about our candidates which are featured in Republican shitposting rags?

[George II]

88. Articles from The Hill are posted here on DU probably about a dozen times a day.

The most recent?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142136053

[R B Garr]

237. The press is part of being a politician. Do you have proof that

the press who wanted to attend the public town hall were conservative? Why are you spreading false information about the local press covering Cortez?

[lapucelle]

100. The Queens Chronicle dubbed her "Alexandria the Great" after her victory.

Now, all of a sudden, because The Chronicle broke this local news story it's somehow a "right wing propaganda" source.

It is troubling that people keep posting links to right wing websites that picked up a legitimate news story from a trusted local source. Why do people post links to highly questionable secondary and tertiary sources when a reliable primary source is available?

http://www.qchron.com/opinion/editorial/alexandria-the-great-s-amazing-victory-over-crowley/article_2a78ae72-5ad6-5e53-9f30-26569f8872d9.html

[brush]

72. You didn't answer the question. If she banned the press of course the repugs are gonna jump all...

over such an error of inexperience.

If she did, she's getting bad advice.

[NCTraveler]

92. Quote from her campaign manager.

"We decided to do community events that would attempt to create a sort of different environment — an environment that was a little more intimate by excluding cameras and press" Direct quote from her campaign manager.

[Shumi]

64. Washington Post reporter Seunh Min Kim

Link to tweet

?s=21

[SkyDancer]

67. And...

[Shumi]

73. Are you calling Seung Min Kim a right wing hack?

She is an impartial Washington Post reporter covering the White House.

[brush]

101. Hmmm? More copy and paste from right wing sources.

[George II]

68. There have been two news accounts of this, from a local Queens newspaper and...

...The Hill. Neither are "republican propaganda".

On the other hand, only YOU have posted it from Fox News - republican "propaganda".

[SkyDancer]

70. The Hill?

You want to cite that? I'll up you & stand by my word this is a Republican hit piece on AOC.

Again, you're buying it GOP propa.

[George II]

75. https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142136073

I'll be here to accept your apology.

[SkyDancer]

78. I'll be here waiting

your admission you bought into Republican propa about a Democrat. Sad.

[George II]

86. Next?

republican propaganda?

http://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/ocasio-cortez-bans-press-from-town-hall/article_e59fba26-ddd9-559a-af62-e11dd76e1191.html

I can keep this up until I'm buried in a pinebox.

[lapucelle]

104. Why do you keep linking to right wing secondary and tertiary sources

when the primary source (a good local newspaper that gave AOC positive coverage during her campaign, lauded her victory, and actually broke this story) is available?

http://www.qchron.com/opinion/editorial/alexandria-the-great-s-amazing-victory-over-crowley/article_2a78ae72-5ad6-5e53-9f30-26569f8872d9.html

http://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/ocasio-cortez-bans-press-from-town-hall/article_e59fba26-ddd9-559a-af62-e11dd76e1191.html

http://www.qchron.com/opinion/editorial/aoc-must-deal-with-press/article_882eed8d-4056-5f74-88ca-f5e7185717b5.html

I'll be here waiting.

[Agschmid]

198. They don't even seem to understand what the definition of the word propaganda is...

I wouldn’t wait forever for a response.

[Hekate]

232. Or the meaning of secondary and tertiary sources. Research is a dying art. nt

[lapucelle]

131. Your highlighted section has a link to the original reporting

in the Queens Chronicle. It's the earliest source because it is the primary source. Why would anyone choose to link to Fox News?

[kcr]

77. Please learn what the word propoganda means

Because Ocasio-Cortez actually did ban the press from a public meeting. Unless the 1st Amendment means nothing to you, I hardly think either reporting on that fact, or objecting to her actions meets the definition of propaganda.

[SkyDancer]

81. Because this isn't GOP propa?

Riiiight.

[kcr]

83. No, it isn't.

The fact that the GOP will use her actions against her does not make it GOP "propa". It's just another reason her choice was ill-advised. I'm so glad she gave them this ammo when the press is fighting Trump. Good job.

[brush]

103. Actually it's freedom of the press. Ya know, the 1st Amendment. Ever heard of it?

[lapucelle]

111. It's a news story from a local newspaper that supported her run

and would like to cover her events.

Ocasio-Cortez has been granting interviews to major media outlets nationwide since becoming a progressive Democratic star, and she should not forget the Queens press once elected — especially the paper that gave her run more and better coverage than any other here when she was seen as the underdog.

http://www.qchron.com/opinion/editorial/aoc-must-deal-with-press/article_882eed8d-4056-5f74-88ca-f5e7185717b5.html

[lapucelle]

132. It's a local news story from a local newspaper. News isn't propaganda.

[Agschmid]

148. It's not.

[R B Garr]

170. Is saying she changed her website RW propaganda?

[Cha]

217. Riiiiight, SkyDancer.. Just because you keep insisting that the

OP is "rw propaganda" doesn't make it so.

[NCTraveler]

91. Quote from her campaign manager.

"We decided to do community events that would attempt to create a sort of different environment — an environment that was a little more intimate by excluding cameras and press" Direct quote from her campaign manager.

Stop insinuating DUers are right wing dupes because Fox covered something.

[lapucelle]

96. The story was broken by The Queens Chronicle, a local paper that supported her run. N/T

[workinclasszero]

130. This is bad

Real bad.

The GOP and Shitler are the anti free press NOT Democrats!

WTH were they thinking?

[fishwax]

136. you must not have paid particularly close attention if you've never seen a closed press event

[George II]

146. This was not a "closed press event". It was an open public event from which the press was barred.

[Agschmid]

147. Yes you have.

You’ve seen it multiple times...

[George II]

150. When?

[Agschmid]

159. Hillary's clinton banned a specific pool reporter from public events.

Lots of examples like this.

[JHan]

194. But but but Hillary!

I don't know the incident you're referring to, but off the top of my head ..banning a specific pool reporter from a public event isn't the same as banning the press from a town hall.

In any case, I don't know what event you're referring to and it's still a bad look to ban the press from a public town hall event. A little whataboutism won't change that fact.

[Agschmid]

222. I worked for Hillary for months in NH, I am just giving an example.

We always just attack each other here it’s so frustrating.

[George II]

230. Banning a specific reporter isn't the same as banning ALL reporters.

[left-of-center2012]

62. Remind me why it's OK to attack Democratic candidates?

[kcr]

69. It's not okay to disagree with banning the press?

Really? Your scalp must be bleeding from all that head scratchin'

[Devil Child]

102. When it is a candidate that associates with Sen. Sanders or OR of course! n/t

[lapucelle]

107. Actually, the Queens Chronicle was supportive

of AOC's run before her victory finally put her on BS's radar.

Ocasio-Cortez has been granting interviews to major media outlets nationwide since becoming a progressive Democratic star, and she should not forget the Queens press once elected — especially the paper that gave her run more and better coverage than any other here when she was seen as the underdog.

http://www.qchron.com/opinion/editorial/aoc-must-deal-with-press/article_882eed8d-4056-5f74-88ca-f5e7185717b5.html

[R B Garr]

118. Is it an attack if you say they changed their website? nt

[Dr. Strange]

121. What's the attack exactly?

[QC]

157. AOC isn't the right kind of Democrat, perhaps.

That seems to be the consensus among a small but loud group here.

[Progressive dog]

65. The press should never be banned from "town halls"

nt

[Awsi Dooger]

79. Correct...I don't care about excuses

This lady increasingly annoys me, even if I agree with her politics.

If she knew about the press being kept away by her staff (or anybody), she should have loudly prevented it and made that topic a centerpiece of her discussion

[Takket]

128. kicking out the press is wrong

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[fishwax]

137. so she held a closed press event with constituents as an exception while

transitioning from the whirlwind national stage to the work of engaging the local electorate. Looks like this is being blown out of proportion, though it's certainly worth seeing if this becomes the norm rather than, as they say clearly, the exception.

[Cha]

141. I doubt if AOC bans the press from future

public events.

[George II]

149. It wasn't a closed press event. If it was a "press event", why was the press barred?

[fishwax]

238. "closed press" means that the press is not invited to the event

It's not at all uncommon for a campaign to hold an event that the press is not invited to. For the sake of clarity, I probably should have had a hyphen, as I think "closed-press" is the more frequent style, and clarifies that the phrase "closed press" modifies "event" (rather than "closed" modifying "press event&quot .

[pwb]

155. Putin thanks all here who bought into this post?

She was listening to people of the community it wasn't a press conference or a town hall meeting it was people she wanted to hear from. What the fuck is wrong with that? This post is feeding the divide if I ever read one. Stop bashing democrats.

[lapucelle]

160. Some people have absolutely no idea what they're talking about.

[pwb]

164. You left out the part that she was mobbed by reporters at an earlier event.

And she wanted to listen to the people. Reporters ask questions and want an answer. She was listening to her people and thanking them for their opinion. You don't get that it was a listening tour not a press conference. Some people can't read between the lines?

[lapucelle]

171. I didn't leave that part out.

You didn't read the story I linked to in the Queens Chronicle, the editorial l linked to in the Queens Chronicle, or any of my posts which quoted the editorial acknowledging the reason for the ban.

I didn't forget to mention anything, including the positive coverage of AOC by the local newspaper that broke the story and wrote the editorial.

The only part that anyone left out was the basic due diligence of actually reading what was actually written before spouting off ill-advised attacks and making erroneous claims, but that wasn't me.

That would be someone else.



https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11014022
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11014037
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11014325
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11014840
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11014227

[pwb]

175. You have numerous posts bashing this young woman at any chance.

Looking back at some O Ps i have posted on and there you are bashing away. You and a few others ganging up. Not just about this.

[lapucelle]

179. No I haven't.

[lapucelle]

184. No you don't.

(Even so, many would think that "I have records" is a creepy, weird and subliminally threatening thing to say.)

[pwb]

189. Your right

i have records of my posts to other O Ps that you posted in. Any way your, "Ocasio-Cortez bans press" title seemed to draw a negative reaction to this fine young democrat. Sometimes it is good to just listen and that is all she wanted to do listen to what her people have on their minds. I don't read that as she bans the press. You do. Paying attention to who posts what and who joins in doesn't make me a creep. Looking for negative reaction makes us that.

[lapucelle]

192. I quoted the headline and first three paragraphs

of a story from a local newspaper that supported AOC throughout her campaign.The entire OP was a quoted citation from the Queens Chronicle and a link to the full story.

If you have a problem with the headline, write a letter to the editor. I'd avoid any ill-advised musings about Putin thanking them and apocryphal records.

http://www.qchron.com/site/contact/

[pwb]

195. You did it to provoke and divide and the usuals took the bait.

The fine people just wonder why some here choose to divide. We have the pukes, Fox news and talk radio for that.

[lapucelle]

196. How odiously privileged does someone have to be

to presume that they are entitled to tell a perfect stranger why that stranger did something?

[pwb]

197. There is a new post about her, jump in.

Some of your friends are already there.

[lapucelle]

200. Apparently odiously entitled enough...

to think someone would listen when being told to "jump".

[Cha]

228. Wow.. who are you again to give

orders about where to post on a political discussion board?

[Cha]

227. "The usuals.."? Just NO.. most of the thread does NOT

think it's ok to ban the press from a public event. The AOC campaign stated "It won't happen again". So even they know it was wrong.

You're Wrong.. you need to own up to that.

[George II]

213. When posting articles, it's customary to use the exact headline of the article, which was done.

[Cha]

226. No.. your personal insults are "creepy". This is

a political discussion board and political news will be reported.

AOC banned the press from a public event. The campaign said "It won't happen again" so they know they were wrong.

[George II]

185. "Records"?

[lapucelle]

186. I hope he doesn't have my permanent record...

...you know the one from grade school.

[pwb]

190. You are not a fan of hers either

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Sorry for remembering who you are. Gang up?

[George II]

199. You're

[George II]

212. So you're keeping "records" of people here on DU?

[Hekate]

231. You can self-delete creepy statements, but "some of us" will remember bwahaha

I, for one, never made note of your name until you said you "have records." That is special, pwb.

[JHan]

193. Are you Omarosa?

[NurseJackie]

208. ...

[Hekate]

233. Omarosa reads DU?

[heaven05]

203. you are wrong

implying that you have some kind of record of the poster. It is taken by me as a threat and is threatening just because you believe AOC is some kind of "fine young democrat". She is young and she is a socialist democrat of a minor faction in our big tent Democratic Party. Your implied threat to Lapucelle WILL NOT stand. You have no idea who you are threatening or how her friends might take your threat.

AOC not letting the media in implies some type of socialist-democrat skullduggery to me. It almost seems fascist as one of my friends said after reading her BS on why she had the right to tell the media to shove off.

The leader of that minor faction of which she readily embraced in trying to destroy Democratic candidates all over this country with personal appearances with her mentor BS, even to Hawaii, during these last primaries, THIS MONTH, has always said he is not a Democrat and does not want to be one. He has voted with our Party at times, but not always. I do not trust him to represent my concerns in these perilous times as I do Democrats, tried and true. And this since I started voting many, many years ago. Nor that faction either. Nothing "fine" about tearing down tried and true Democrats. They tried it with my candidate, they blew it. The Democratic Party won, not a faction of it.

I just wish they would help/join our Party and quit trying to tear it down.

[Hekate]

204. That is creepy

[heaven05]

206. you are wrong

implying that you have some kind of record of the poster. It is taken by me as a threat and is threatening just because you believe AOC is some kind of "fine young democrat". She is young and she is a socialist democrat of a minor faction in our big tent Democratic Party. Your implied threat to Lapucelle WILL NOT stand. You have no idea who you are threatening or how her friends might take your threat.

AOC not letting the media in implies some type of socialist-democrat skullduggery to me. It almost seems fascist as one of my friends said after reading her BS on why she had the right to tell the media to shove off.

The leader of that minor faction of which she readily embraced in trying to destroy Democratic candidates all over this country with personal appearances with her mentor BS, even to Hawaii, during these last primaries, THIS MONTH, has always said he is not a Democrat and does not want to be one. He has voted with our Party at times, but not always. I do not trust him to represent my concerns in these perilous times as I do Democrats, tried and true. nor the faction represented by AOC, at this time.A nd this since I started voting many, many years ago. Nothing "fine" about tearing down tried and true Democrats. They tried it with my candidate, they blew it. The Democratic Party won, not a faction of it.

I just wish they would help/join our Party and quit trying to tear it down.

[Cha]

223. "i have records"?! What? What "records" do you have?

Don't just boast.. where are your "records".

[Hekate]

234. I get images of...

...a cellphone sneaked into the Mods' old hot tub.

[Cha]

221. Your accusatory post is wrong. Posting the news

of what AOC says and does is Not "bashing". You really should at least try and wrap your head around that.

".. a few others.."? It looks most of the thread is Not ok with AOC banning the press from the public event.

Even the campaign stated "It won't happen again".. so they know they were wrong.

[Cha]

219. The OP didn't "..leave anything out.." unfortunately

you didn't read it all and ended up making false claims.

[NurseJackie]

172. Nobody is doing that.

Stop bashing democrats.

Nobody is doing that. The story is true. She made a mistake. She was called-out on it.

What the fuck is wrong with that?

She's a public figure running for office. She has CHOSEN A HIGH VISIBILITY ROLE... she INTENTIONALLY SEEKS OUT A NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT.. and now (after she gets her wish) for some reason, suddenly, she thinks the press is unfair and invasive? Seriously? Nobody can be that self-unaware! There must be some other reason.

This post is feeding the divide if I ever read one.

No, what actually "feeds the divide" is when people deny what happened and make excuses for what she did.

All I'm trying to say is that these are the types of mistakes and missteps that I'd expect from someone who's not ready for "prime time" and who still has a lot of learning to do. She (and/or her handlers) jumped the gun by trying to propel her to some sort of Bernie 2.0 character with national prominence.

Obviously, it's too late to turn the clock back now. What she should have done, and what she actually did are two different things.

All I'm saying is that nobody would take ME seriously if I spent weeks and weeks saying "hey everyone look at me" and then when my flaws were exposed and questioned... it would sound disingenuous of me to suddenly demand my privacy.

[pwb]

173. You don't like this young woman. its obvious.

i remember.

[Hortensis]

188. Remember me too.

She has not disavowed her support for the attempt to effectively override the majority votes of millions of Democrats in our last presidential primary. She's had a lot of time to think about it, still hangs with the same people, and has never expressed the least shame and regret. I trust her actions, now including her silence, to speak for her.

The principles and principled practice of democracy and protection of government of, by and for the people are very important to me. My principles and hers seem to be different. That's not a problem for me right now, however, as I am not among those who may find themselves in the position of needing to vote for her as their Democratic representative to congress.

[NurseJackie]

209. Actually, I've never said one way or the other...

173. You don't like this young woman. its obvious.
i remember.

Actually, I've never said one way or the other whether I like her or dislike her.

There's a difference between being "unimpressed-by" ("unenthusiastic-about'') and "not-liking" someone. What good purpose does it serve to try and attribute things like that to me?

All I'm saying here is that you're not a mind-reader... and if you were, then you'd know that such things were false. So why would you say that about me? Why characterize me in such an insulting way?

[Cha]

229. "i remember".. yes, you've made it perfectly clear

that you're taking names for your "records" and "remembering".

So what?

[lapucelle]

187. Be careful, NJ...

...someone here is keeping "records".

[USALiberal]

191. Really? Imagine if a GOPer would of used that lame excuse. We would freak out. Dumb decision. nt

[Snotcicles]

215. The hyperbole on DU is laughable. nt

[Cha]

216. Fuck putin.. this is about banning the press from a

public event.

[MustLoveBeagles]

174. What a stupid thing to do

Regardless of why she did it, it makes her look bad. If she didn't want the press there she should have made this a private event. I like her and think she has a lot potential, but it's a shame she's kneecapping herself with these unforced errors.

[lapucelle]

182. I think she needs better advice than she's getting from Corbin Trent.

He's a novice, and his first loyalty is to his start up, Brand New Congress. Trent has little-to-no connection to the Democratic party, and his expertise at this level is probably marginal.

Brand New Congress is busy running candidates in other races (including an independent against a Democrat in a congressional general election in Tennessee), so it might be a matter of Trent being overextended. Some might say that he also comes across as a bit of an opportunist.

Theo: What is your relationship to the Democratic Party?

Corbin: Myself, personally? I have no relationship whatsoever. The organization has very little. We intend to run within their structures, and in their primaries, and we’re thankful that they’ve set up an infrastructure that’s going to allow candidates to run in primaries. But we think that the party has—a long time ago—stopped representing the needs of the American people.

It might be time for AOC to seek out a broader campaign team.

http://inthesetimes.com/article/20341/brand-new-congress-progressives-republican-party-democrat

[redstatebluegirl]

202. She is young and needs some decent advisors.

[Hekate]

235. Maybe some old Democratic Party hands...

...if she hasn't blown them off as unprogressive establishment hacks. Not saying she did, just saying they might come in handy.