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Dolt45...Witness tampering in plain sight..Who is Bruce Ohr? and why is his security clearance being (Original Post) HipChick Aug 2018 OP
Kick and Rec. this is important stuff n/t emulatorloo Aug 2018 #1
Remember the citizens hold the key that can bring him down. The power of the vote. olegramps Aug 2018 #41
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2018 #2
K&R 0rganism Aug 2018 #3
trDump is under the delusion he is King. magicarpet Aug 2018 #4
He can do that when he's in prison HipChick Aug 2018 #5
More like this guy jayschool2013 Aug 2018 #8
So far, has he been wrong? Has anyone done anything to prove to him he's not King? Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #9
Exactly. Amaryllis Aug 2018 #21
In most organizations, Scarsdale Aug 2018 #32
Interesting...usually The Peter Principle happens in organizations Hestia Aug 2018 #35
I have certainly seen The Peter Principle in action. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #42
i agree with most of that but gop are more afraid of limbaugh and local dittoheads certainot Aug 2018 #36
K & R malaise Aug 2018 #6
This is a large part of why I think Trump will be indicted marylandblue Aug 2018 #7
And pretty damn quickly! 2naSalit Aug 2018 #17
There are enablers of treason doing this..................... turbinetree Aug 2018 #10
Don't forget Nunes and Jordan. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #26
This is a BIG FUCKING DEAL! dchill Aug 2018 #11
Trump has finally lost his mind... The Conductor Aug 2018 #12
Reading your post I had an epiphany that Donald really doesn't understand what loyalty actually is - Rabrrrrrr Aug 2018 #20
Don Ivan Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #27
K&R... spanone Aug 2018 #13
It doesn't count as obstruction, if you do it in front of millions of people. Mc Mike Aug 2018 #14
Maybe THISone will stick? FailureToCommunicate Aug 2018 #15
So? When is he frogged marched to prison?? Ferrets are Cool Aug 2018 #16
Right!? 2naSalit Aug 2018 #18
Until it happens, this country is run by a dictator. Period, end of story. Ferrets are Cool Aug 2018 #19
I can imagine the White House covered in a fumigation tent once he is gone RainCaster Aug 2018 #22
Proud to be resister #100 on the REC-O-meter. ffr Aug 2018 #23
He can do it TimeToGo Aug 2018 #24
Unless the Dems win in Nov. edhopper Aug 2018 #25
tRump is acting as though Scarsdale Aug 2018 #33
Good question. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #28
Where is that backbone FBI Director Christopher Wray bragged about? Ponietz Aug 2018 #29
"Dolt45" added the the listicle AltTrumpNames BadGimp Aug 2018 #30
Bookmarked. calimary Aug 2018 #31
From post 12 above GusBob Aug 2018 #34
Wow! Nitram Aug 2018 #37
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #38
It may be against the law... malthaussen Aug 2018 #39
K&R UTUSN Aug 2018 #40

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
41. Remember the citizens hold the key that can bring him down. The power of the vote.
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:50 AM
Aug 2018

I sincerely hope that the citizens can be awaken from their apathy to realize that their precious freedoms that they take for granted are in serious jeopardy. The key step to any dictatorship is control of the press. When the free press is silenced then the only source of information is the ruler's propaganda machine. This is the foundation upon which every dictatorship has been established.

The founding fathers of our nation were well aware of its primacy and made freedom of the press the essential requirement for the Republic's survival. It is my firm belief that the Republican Party is committed to establishment of an authoritarian presidency. This is not a recent development but has been the goal since the presidency of Reagan. Most recently, during the Bush administration, the neo-cons advanced the so-called principle of the Unitary Presidency. It is defined as investing in the president absolute authority over every agency of government. It totally destroys the separation of powers up on which the government was founded. It would effectively create a government identical as those of Russia, China and several recently emerging dictatorships. It is the form of government that Trump holds in admiration and covets.


It isn't complicated. The silencing of the press is just the first and essential step to the fulfillment of their vision of a totalitarian government. The continued apathy of the citizens is essential to their success. At present thirty percent of the nation is totally under their control. It only remains for the majority of the remainder to continue their disinterest to accomplish the biggest unbloody coup in history.

magicarpet

(14,154 posts)
4. trDump is under the delusion he is King.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 03:47 PM
Aug 2018

If anyone has the audacity to make disparaging remarks about him it is trDump's right and duty as King to banish such an insubordinate subject from the realms of his kingdom. That individual should consider himself lucky the King does not immediately put him to death for having committed such a grievous act against the crown and royal family.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. So far, has he been wrong? Has anyone done anything to prove to him he's not King?
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 04:39 PM
Aug 2018

No one with the power to do anything and who has a spine is anywhere in sight.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
32. In most organizations,
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 11:15 PM
Aug 2018

the people who rise to the top are the best, brightest, most intelligent. The "cream of the crop" Having tRump as their leader shows that the gop is nothing but a group of stupid people. They are all cowering in their offices, afraid to ever show up for their constituents, because they are afraid of an inarticulate, low intelligence, no class, uncouth piss poor excuse for a "man". How anyone can vote gop and insist that they love this country is a joke. tRump has destroyed any vestige of respect from around the entire world that the USA used to have. He is a fraud.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
35. Interesting...usually The Peter Principle happens in organizations
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 02:24 AM
Aug 2018

The "Peter Principle" is therefore expressed as: "In a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence."

"In time, every post tends to be occupied by an employee who is incompetent to carry out its duties."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle#The_Peter_Principle


PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,858 posts)
42. I have certainly seen The Peter Principle in action.
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 11:01 AM
Aug 2018

Often it is the lowest level employees who are the most competent, and they don't get promoted because if they were, there would be no one to do the actual work of the organization.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
36. i agree with most of that but gop are more afraid of limbaugh and local dittoheads
Thu Aug 16, 2018, 04:51 AM
Aug 2018

media and analysts are getting this wrong. the GOP are afraid of limbaugh, not trump

limbaugh regularly mentions those names including ohr, as part of the deep state cabal working for obama clinton soros for over a year. that's why it's them, and the con pols know it even if the dems and media don't, because they get the buzz even if they don't listen to it themselves.

limbaugh has trump's back and averages a "trump" every minute, and it's all good. all excuses for trump and attacks on his critics - in either party. trump and putin probably pay him. few republican politicians who get mentioned negatively by limbaugh a few times lasts.

at the local level it's the local limbaugh radio imitators/wannabes and the dittohead base, like the nunes donor who asked nunes about firing rosenstein, who make sure the candidates who parrot the talking points advance.

trump team studied talk radio in 2014 - gabe sherman, new york mag 4/3/16

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
7. This is a large part of why I think Trump will be indicted
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 04:28 PM
Aug 2018

He is flouting the law with impunity, saying he is not accountable to anyone, in effect daring Mueller to indict him, and daring the courts to assert their independence.

Watergate precedent: The Watergate grand jury actually did indict Nixon. Independent counsel staff agreed and wrote it up for Jaworski's signature. He refused to sign because he thought it would interfere with existing prosecutions. But this is different. It's clear Trump will interfere with any prosecution involving his campaign, so Trump has to be dealt with somehow.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
10. There are enablers of treason doing this.....................
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 04:49 PM
Aug 2018

Goodlatte and Gowdy , they bring someone in, then they decide to go public and then the traitor in the white house decides to fire them and revoke there security clearance.....................this fucking group is fucking dangerous................this means that this asshole sitting in the white house can fire anyone.................think about that, he can have a member of Congress removed...............if they have a security clearance ......................I just gotta ask what does the Gorsuch and the other Federalist Society assholes think of what is transpiring, what say too Kavanugh......................I think I have a right to know, when you interrogated to sit on that bench.....................since you think a sitting president can just fuck due process, what do you fucking think....................now that your "guy" is just doing a political vendetta and is a fucking lackey of Russia..................and traitor...................


November 2018 cannot get here fast enough...............vote

And if you haven't signed on to the street protests from Moveon here is the web site:

https://act.moveon.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response-events/search/

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
26. Don't forget Nunes and Jordan.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 10:03 PM
Aug 2018

Goodlatte needs to step down as chair. Even his son is voting for his opponent.

The Conductor

(180 posts)
12. Trump has finally lost his mind...
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 05:09 PM
Aug 2018

He thinks that destroying someone's career will stop them testifying against him, maybe because this has worked in the past.

Only - these are extremely dedicated people, dedicated to the United States, not Igolf Twittler and his band of pirates. Revoking that security clearance and getting this guy fired would only make him far MORE likely to testify against the Trump Gang. Hairy dimwit doesn't realize that, I guess.

He is messing now with people who put their lives on the line for this country, not just their jobs!

Rabrrrrrr

(58,349 posts)
20. Reading your post I had an epiphany that Donald really doesn't understand what loyalty actually is -
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 07:41 PM
Aug 2018

I think that quite honestly, given the way that he conducts his "businesses" which is to sacrifice anyone anytime for any reason, and a life with other business people who are loyal to nothing other than their paycheck or money in general and who will sell out anyone or themselves for a dollar or to avoid being punished - Donald simply doesn't understand that many people can be very loyal to an idea, or a country, or to silly things like the law, justice, fairness, and that there are a great people who will sacrifice themselves out of loyalty to those ideas.

I've known that he has no loyalty to anything other than himself, but it hadn't occurred to me that probably also doesn't even get the concept of it - but his actions recently certainly seem to show that he doesn't think anyone would continue to come at him if he revokes their security clearance, or has them fired, or threatens them.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
33. tRump is acting as though
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 11:22 PM
Aug 2018

he is sure that Vlad will come through for the gop and fix the elections once again. He does not seem to be afraid to act on impulse, and just do as he pleases. In a perfect world, the entire staff at the WH would all quit, walk out in unison, and leave the traitorous bastard sitting alone until he is impeached, or committed whichever comes first. What a glorious day it will be when he is removed from office.

Ponietz

(2,972 posts)
29. Where is that backbone FBI Director Christopher Wray bragged about?
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 10:17 PM
Aug 2018

Law enforcement needs to act, NOW.

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